Better Call Saul

https://www.rollingstone.com/tv/tv-news/better-call-saul-premiere-date-final-season-1297994/

My hope: Pt. 1 wraps up the pre-BB years and Pt. 2 deals with Gene in Omaha.

that makes a lot of sense from a structure standpoint. we haven't seen any of the other characters in omaha ... would be sad if all they all go away in the arizona component

could also be some stuff concurrent with BB, particularly what happened with Kim while all that was taking place

as much as I like the idea of doing a half-season in Omaha (and iirc they've revealed that he got recognized in the last season so there's obviously something there) you're kind of abandoning nearly your entire cast in doing that

I thought in BB Gus mentions something about wiping out the last of the Salamancas which imples that Lalo dies at some point. Or maybe he survives and Gus just thinks he's dead. idk. I was not expecting them to end the last season the way they did

Yeah lalo is dead by bb season 4 guaranteed

iirc the thing with the taxi driver recognising gene was he was about to go to Robert Forster again but at the last second got a steely look & was like “forget it, I’ll deal with it myself”

ok yeah I'm trying to remember this I thought they implied the driver was from Albuquerque and recognized him because he was on TV all the time. I guess it's not really clear if people from there might've known that he was connected to the thing that was going on with Walter White at the end of BB

Yeah he had some kind of New Mexico themed air freshener or something in the car, which was the cliffhanger reveal like 2 seasons ago I think lol

Right I guess the question is if it’s someone specifically looking for him who hung that up to let him know the jig is up or if it’s just some coincidence, but that Saul is a known fugitive

If you recall in the last season the guy was like “hey you’re that guy!” & then showed up at the mall next day - I think (although it’s fuzzy) it was heavily implied he was putting on some kind of squeeze but kept just this side of ambiguous

Man I need to rewatch this series

I would love a lot of gene stuff. The most interesting things in the other stories imo are Kim breaking bad, nacho & lalo but I love the milieu so much, give me more howard, give me fring and hector, give me all the Mike

lol I forgot it was in New Mexico not Arizona. Too long between seasons.

I don't know what I'm hoping for specifically, but, as I've mentioned in other contexts, I like the a-ha moment that many people don't. There's no mystery proper here (like in Zodiac, for instance), so I don't know if that's possible, but some moment where the Saul you meet in Breaking Bad makes perfect sense--which means, among other things, the Saul that never so much as alludes to Kim.

This was a good a-ha moment--this is what I mean.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5HgdHzoWqgc

new trailer

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=meb8ksPgJ5M

lol @ Mike "it's not gonna go how you think it will go", wink wink wink **WINK**

Just saw Odenkirk on his book tour. Seems like a nice dude, but he was definitely filibustering over the interviewer with pre-canned stories, etc.

Oh man, that trailer has me hyped up. So many gorgeous shots.

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looks great. can't wait for more Kim. if kim doesn't die I want a kim spin off.

I thought that might have been Walter White walking away from the camera at the 40-second mark, but that probably makes no sense at all.

wonder who's the dude at the end

hope Walter White shows up for some little bit, maybe that's too fanservicey but I'm not against them showing parts of the story that weren't in BB

I hope the whole thing turns out to be a dream of Stevie Grant's from Larry Sanders, then they can work in Hank Kingsley.

Hype

someone pointed out that the dude from Breaking Bad who got his head crushed by the ATM appears in the trailer. I forgot, what was that guy's deal

That was the deranged couple who stole the meth from Skinny Pete...They had a 4- or 5-year-old kid living in total neglect; sad episode.

he wasn't connected to Saul then was he?

Not at all...though I think maybe Saul makes reference to what happened with the ATM.

Great oral history of the series here

https://www.theringer.com/tv/2022/4/12/23021122/better-call-saul-goodman-oral-history-breaking-bad-bob-odenkirk

(there’s also a podcast version of it on Prestige TV https://www.theringer.com/2022/4/14/23024596/oral-history-of-better-call-saul )

(the Ringer don’t do podcasts anymore, they’re spotify-exclusive)

it’s still a podcast if it’s on spotify but whatever

how can I cast it to my pod?

(my annotation was merely meant to be helpful to anyone who did not know this fact, to save them potential frustration on clicking.)

Didn't realize till today this was tomorrow night. I'm rewatching the last episode in advance.

Another season of rhea seehorn (and the rest of the awesome cast) works for me

I had no idea it was on this week! Thanks for the heads up

I remembered all the Lalo-related stuff pretty well from the last episode, and I also remembered Kim's chilling imitation of Jimmy in her last shot. But I'd forgotten the plan Jimmy and Kim were kicking around, so that'll probably be an early focus.

watching the premiere

this Kim/Saul dynamic is interesting

as if the image and persona are partially her working out her own bits of wish fulfillment but… Jimmy’s going to have to live it

What kind of hijinx will those crazy nut-nuts get up to this season I wonder

oh god Kim is definitely part of the formation of the Saul persona and she starts as the hardest part

glad to see Odenkirk naked

Too much anticipation, probably, but for me, a so-so episode. Best thing I thought was the return of the Kettlemans.

Two things that confused me: 1) The opening. I think it was supposed to evoke Citizen Kane, but was that far into the future, well beyond Breaking Bad? If it was, that's a real leap from Cinnabon; 2) All the stuff with the safe and the ID at Mike's place.

Ignacio's place, I mean.

1) That was Saul Goodman’s estate auction? Probably contemporary with the Cinnabon stuff where he’s assumed dead or at least missing and with debtors so they auction off his stuff
2) Nacho’s place. Wheels within wheels where they needed to plant a false direction in Nacho’s safe and make sure he didn’t have anything incriminating to Gus in there. So they restocked it with the exact same items, but I think Mike pocketed the Canadian i.d. for Nacho’s dad. Bets to leave him out of it.

the envelope is some sort of misdirection and they had to assume others knew what the safe looked like

All of that makes sense, thanks. One thing I noticed was that Hector looked Gus right in the eye; nitpicking, but that may be inconsistent with BB, where Gus always made a big deal about Hector making eye contact with him, like it was something he could never bring himself to do.

It did seem very out of character, and maybe this is the time he does it (and that creepy handshake!) where he gives away the game (Lalo lives!) and he never tries it again. Gus is just too good at reading him

Yeah but the envelope that Mike planted had the phone number of the motel Nacho was binding at, no?

-hiding-

I do appreciate the implication Fring might screw up, played out in his creepy right hand man challenging Mike and having to stand down. CRHM has a known timeline, I think

xp maybe? That’d make no sense unless I missed something and Nacho would have a list of motels he’d hide at in his safe. I think they found the motel organically

I’d assume the envelope would be non-obvious false leads and red herrings for Gus and Mike to use, nothing that’d play out immediately

No I thought the phone number of the motel was written on the paper in the envelope—the bald gangster guy (Don Juan?) calls it and hangs up when the motel answers.