didn't enjoy this as much as Liquid Colours, I must say. The concept was cool but I didn't think the execution really shone through
― Urbandn hope all ye who enter here (dog latin)
Totally agree. Liquid Colours was one of my favourite discoveries from our 2019 poll and I expected to love this just as much.
Dry Cleaning are definitely one of the better bands of this whole post punk spoken word scene (what are calling this again?), but I couldn't take a whole album of them.
― kitchen person, Thursday, 10 February 2022 15:46 (two years ago) link
There's a new music taking over the country and it's called sprechstimme
― imago, Thursday, 10 February 2022 15:47 (two years ago) link
now Dry Cleaning, that's an apt stage name
― rob, Thursday, 10 February 2022 15:49 (two years ago) link
this whole post punk spoken word scene (what are calling this again?)
podcrust
― Chappies banging dustbin lids together (President Keyes), Thursday, 10 February 2022 15:49 (two years ago) link
brexiphone
― roflrofl fight (voodoo chili), Thursday, 10 February 2022 15:51 (two years ago) link
brexit-core
― Indexed, Thursday, 10 February 2022 15:51 (two years ago) link
first track on this dry cleaning consists of what appears to be jo brand droning over a franz ferdinand b side
― oscar bravo, Thursday, 10 February 2022 15:53 (two years ago) link
U used to call me on my Brexitphone device at night
― Legalize Suburban Benches (Raymond Cummings), Thursday, 10 February 2022 15:54 (two years ago) link
I'm patiently and diligently working my way through all of these, and so far it's all been good (surprisingly so with Doja Cat and Hayley Williams, for whom my skip button was primed). Spelling/Emeka Ogboh/Eris Drew is a great run, and Eris Drew sounds sublime, my favourite thus far.
― mike t-diva, Thursday, 10 February 2022 15:56 (two years ago) link
I thought it was sprechsgesang?
― emil.y, Thursday, 10 February 2022 15:58 (two years ago) link
they're interchangeable afaict
― imago, Thursday, 10 February 2022 16:00 (two years ago) link
Finishing up this Deafheaven album and was thinking 'Other Language' sounds like the heavier songs on Paramore's s/t, e.g., 'Future' and now see Justin Meldal-Johnsen produced this record, too
― Indexed, Thursday, 10 February 2022 16:00 (two years ago) link
Can't get into Dry Cleaning. I really like the LUM album sonically, but thematically it's just too much self-pity for me to stomach.
― feed me with your chips (zchyrs), Thursday, 10 February 2022 16:01 (two years ago) link
oh or,
Though sometimes used interchangeably, Sprechgesang is directly related to the operatic recitative manner of singing (in which pitches are sung, but the articulation is rapid and loose like speech), whereas Sprechstimme is closer to speech itself (because it does not emphasise any particular pitches)
― imago, Thursday, 10 February 2022 16:01 (two years ago) link
Ah, okay! I did go away to look it up but on a tired skim I didn't note the difference.
― emil.y, Thursday, 10 February 2022 16:03 (two years ago) link
Sund4r is saying that actually sprechstimme and sprechsgegang are being horribly misused and we should feel bad, or something
― imago, Thursday, 10 February 2022 16:04 (two years ago) link
https://i.imgur.com/Xonh5xE.jpg26. Sons of Kemet - Black to the Future279 points / 13 votesSong from the album: “To Never Forget the Source”London jazz wizard Shabaka Hutchings: Sons of Kemet / The Comet Is Coming / Shabaka & the Ancestors
― ✖✖✖ (Moka), Thursday, 10 February 2022 16:10 (two years ago) link
nice
― roflrofl fight (voodoo chili), Thursday, 10 February 2022 16:11 (two years ago) link
Voted for "To Never Forget the Source" in the tracks poll; didn't vote for the album here but I do enjoy it. Just nice grooves.
― The sensual shock (Sund4r), Thursday, 10 February 2022 16:11 (two years ago) link
smokore
― STOCK FIST-PUMPER BRAD (BradNelson), Thursday, 10 February 2022 16:11 (two years ago) link
i did not vote in the poll but i love the dry cleaning album, while not really getting into most of the other british talk-singing indie rock bands. they are much better musically than the rest of the pack, with actual musical hooks to carry the interest without vocal hooks. but i prefer the chilly/abstract vibe of their singer to the "OI I'M ON THE DOLE AND LONDON IS RUBBISH" thing that a lot of these other bands are doing. the line "I've been thinking about eating that hotdog for hours" still cracks me up every time.
― na (NA), Thursday, 10 February 2022 16:12 (two years ago) link
Yeah, I've not heard the whole Dry Cleaning album in full yet but their guitarist knows his onions
― imago, Thursday, 10 February 2022 16:13 (two years ago) link
good to see SoK. have we passed a vote threshold or was this a low-enthusiasm choice for many?
― rob, Thursday, 10 February 2022 16:16 (two years ago) link
― imago,
Green even!
― So who you gonna call? The martini police (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 10 February 2022 16:17 (two years ago) link
Dry Cleaning are right at the top end of the sprechcore spectrum for me (with Yard Act right at the bottom end).
― mike t-diva, Thursday, 10 February 2022 16:22 (two years ago) link
n/a otm
― So who you gonna call? The martini police (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 10 February 2022 16:22 (two years ago) link
https://i.imgur.com/WmmKpIr.jpg25. Erika de Casier - Sensational283 points / 13 votesVideo from the album: “Drama”Erika de Casier - Essentials
― ✖✖✖ (Moka), Thursday, 10 February 2022 16:24 (two years ago) link
This one is sensational.
I think I enjoy this one even more than the first, but both are great. Her songwriting is a bit sharper here.
― Muad'Doob (Moodles), Thursday, 10 February 2022 16:27 (two years ago) link
agreed with those upthread that the guitarist for dry cleaning makes them worth hearing, even if i don't have much time for them
― roflrofl fight (voodoo chili), Thursday, 10 February 2022 16:31 (two years ago) link
Gabber
― o shit the sheriff (NickB), Thursday, 10 February 2022 16:35 (two years ago) link
one-tone
― roflrofl fight (voodoo chili), Thursday, 10 February 2022 16:39 (two years ago) link
I keep getting Dry Cleaning and Wet Leg confused. It doesn't help that the Dry Cleaning album also has "Leg" in the title.
― o. nate, Thursday, 10 February 2022 16:40 (two years ago) link
Sprechstimme and sprechgesang are interchangeable afaik. I'm not sure I recognize the distinction made in that Wikipedia quote - the sprechstimme in Pierrot Lunaire has notated pitches with x's on them like the sprechgesang in Wozzeck. It is a technique that aiui involves attempting to hit a note, then letting go of the pitch and sliding to the next in an attempt to follow the intonation patterns found in speech - the effect, at least in the pieces I know, is closer to swoops and sighs and not at all to my ears like rap or slam poetry or Kim Gordon spoken word so these comparisons, which get made even by people with graduate degrees in music, always annoy me, like they are based purely on a literal translation of the terminology itself and not on what the music sounds like.
Example: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NyfUd7_sBdg
Detailed explanation with demonstrations: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kXBVu1s-5E0
― The sensual shock (Sund4r), Thursday, 10 February 2022 16:45 (two years ago) link
too low
― Qamon (||||||||), Thursday, 10 February 2022 16:48 (two years ago) link
yeah had Schoenberg in my top ten, v disappointing
― imago, Thursday, 10 February 2022 16:52 (two years ago) link
My man
― The sensual shock (Sund4r), Thursday, 10 February 2022 16:52 (two years ago) link
This recording came out last year. Didn't hear it: https://www.discogs.com/release/18685474-Schoenberg-Patricia-Kopatchinskaja-Pierrot-Lunaire
― The sensual shock (Sund4r), Thursday, 10 February 2022 16:53 (two years ago) link
https://i.imgur.com/U6O8Foi.jpg24. Mr Twin Sister - Al Mundo Azul286 points / 12 votesVideo from the album: “Beezle”Mr Twin Sister
― ✖✖✖ (Moka), Thursday, 10 February 2022 16:57 (two years ago) link
― roflrofl fight (voodoo chili), Thursday, 10 February 2022 16:57 (two years ago) link
today has been a beguiling mix of imagocore with TimFcore lol
― imago, Thursday, 10 February 2022 16:58 (two years ago) link
simultaneously their most accessible and experimental work to date
― roflrofl fight (voodoo chili), Thursday, 10 February 2022 16:58 (two years ago) link
ugh what a good album
― STOCK FIST-PUMPER BRAD (BradNelson), Thursday, 10 February 2022 17:00 (two years ago) link
The Fallout
― Evan, Thursday, 10 February 2022 17:09 (two years ago) link
the 2021 album whose vocals and lyrics reminded me of the Fall in any way at all was by audiobooks, and it wasn't nominated
this Mr Twin Sister preview track is...much livelier than I remember them being? Hypersophistipop?
― imago, Thursday, 10 February 2022 17:13 (two years ago) link
Listened to that twice. Very keen to hear the rest
― imago, Thursday, 10 February 2022 17:16 (two years ago) link
Same, love the production
― change display name (Jordan), Thursday, 10 February 2022 17:19 (two years ago) link
https://i.imgur.com/6pyfevU.jpg23. Men I Trust - Untourable Album290 points / 10 votesVideo from the album: “Tree Among Shrubs”thraed of smooth jazz dream pop opus ONCLE JAZZ by montreal band MEN I TRUST
― ✖✖✖ (Moka), Thursday, 10 February 2022 17:19 (two years ago) link
amazing album, I was really blown away by their skill and talent after watching the Tiny Desk Concert for this
― Muad'Doob (Moodles), Thursday, 10 February 2022 17:21 (two years ago) link
still one of favorite bass tones in indie pop.
Particularly in love with Serenade of Water and 5am Waltz. They have a late 90's downtempo/chillout/Boards of Canada thing going on which I wasn't expecting from them.
― ✖✖✖ (Moka), Thursday, 10 February 2022 17:26 (two years ago) link