Semantle: Can you think like a computer?

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My highest guess beforehand kind of had two relevant meanings to it

kinder, Thursday, 10 February 2022 09:53 (two years ago) link

Got there in 70.

hamicle, Thursday, 10 February 2022 10:24 (two years ago) link

gave up, this game is too hard for me

joni mitchell jarre (anagram), Thursday, 10 February 2022 11:27 (two years ago) link

ok someone give me a hint > 950 (this would be a good feature to add!)

ledge, Thursday, 10 February 2022 11:47 (two years ago) link

I’m at 936/1000, which is so annoyingly close but I’m totally stuck.

Yesterday’s wasn’t so bad, got it in 82

Roz, Thursday, 10 February 2022 11:58 (two years ago) link

This game is maddening.

war mice (hardcore dilettante), Thursday, 10 February 2022 12:37 (two years ago) link

i got stuck at 673/1000 with domains which i thought was close, but that was the first one i've done, and after giving up and seeing the answer, i realise now i was miles from the secret word. the progress bars gave me false hope. can't see that i'd have guessed.

.xlsm (P. Flick), Thursday, 10 February 2022 13:01 (two years ago) link

I didn't even get into the 900s. I browsed a few wiki pages for some of the words I had which gave me inspiration. No it's not cheating... (Most of the key terms I'd already tried).
Also I think it's key to try different variations of words e.g. (not related to today's as far as I know) literate, literature, literal. Some are cold when others are warm.

kinder, Thursday, 10 February 2022 13:25 (two years ago) link

I gave up after about 350 guesses. I can obviously see the connection between the answer and my closest guess license but i'm not sure how i could have got from one to the other without external inspiration - and I'd already tried all the nearest synonyms - or other than sheer luck guess one of the closer words. Still, I'll come back tomorrow for more punishment.

ledge, Thursday, 10 February 2022 14:02 (two years ago) link

first time ever getting it today after playing for about a week... in 69 guesses O_o

johnny crunch, Thursday, 10 February 2022 14:04 (two years ago) link

of my guesses, the one deemed literally furthest away make seems imo like it should be closer to the secret word? but im not (yet) a computer so idk ~

johnny crunch, Thursday, 10 February 2022 14:09 (two years ago) link

139 today. early guesses in the 10s were all small things -- pea, corn, dust -- which led me astray.

adam t. (abanana), Thursday, 10 February 2022 14:26 (two years ago) link

johnny fever, i thought the same thing. i hit on manufacture which was one of my warmest guesses, but your word got nowhere.

kinder, Thursday, 10 February 2022 16:06 (two years ago) link

I'll get as far as 30 guesses before I can't resist and give up ha.

Ste, Thursday, 10 February 2022 19:10 (two years ago) link

i like the concept but the space is too vast and the goal too opaque. restricting to 5 letter nouns might help

flopson, Thursday, 10 February 2022 19:29 (two years ago) link

makes me think a fun application of GPT-3 would be to play 21 questions with it

flopson, Thursday, 10 February 2022 19:30 (two years ago) link

I like the idea of the long game, chipping away at it throughout random times in the day though.

Ste, Thursday, 10 February 2022 21:13 (two years ago) link

Today turned out to be brutally difficult -- it's just stuck off in its own arm of the semantic space. Sorry about that. Maybe tomorrow will be easier. Or maybe not!

David Turner (semantle), Thursday, 10 February 2022 21:31 (two years ago) link

I still have yesterday's loaded and haven't solved it yet. Now worried about trying today's.

Ima Gardener (in orbit), Thursday, 10 February 2022 21:38 (two years ago) link

What's happening to the Similarity column? It's all out of order. I can't tell what's working and what's not.

Ima Gardener (in orbit), Thursday, 10 February 2022 21:47 (two years ago) link

I’m seeing similarity sorted properly, but with your most recent guess at the top, which is a very welcome feature!

war mice (hardcore dilettante), Thursday, 10 February 2022 22:35 (two years ago) link

Wow, I don't have the patience to come up with 600-800 words, plus I find that my brain gets stuck and just keeps coming up with similar words to the ones I've already guessed, even where they only score like 25. I literally don't think I ever would have gotten today's.

longtime caller, first time listener (man alive), Thursday, 10 February 2022 22:48 (two years ago) link

spoiler alert: the word "penis" is slightly closer than the word "university" and slightly further away than "paint."

longtime caller, first time listener (man alive), Thursday, 10 February 2022 22:51 (two years ago) link

LOL

Wondering if starting with a seed word - say, the 1000th-closest word - would make the game more appealing.

I’m fascinated by it & can’t wait for the next drop (after having pulled the plug on today’s) but the early stages are a bit of a slog tbh.

I didn’t like the idea of hints, but maybe just a wee one? Say, calling for a hint gets you the word that’s one closer from the target word vs your highest guess, like if you had word 950 and you called for a hint you would get word 951. (And if you were stuck on 999, it would give you 998.) One per day.

war mice (hardcore dilettante), Thursday, 10 February 2022 23:10 (two years ago) link

I got it in 7.

well, at least that was the point I launched my computer over the balcony and put on Peacemaker instead

he's very big in the region of my butthole (Neanderthal), Thursday, 10 February 2022 23:12 (two years ago) link

86 today. I find there's a certain point when I just start entering words I know aren't going to be right.

Lily Dale, Friday, 11 February 2022 00:19 (two years ago) link

gave up yesterday. not sure i ever would have gotten it. even after i knew the answer, it was hard to come up with similar words.

then got super lucky today and got it in 21.

brisk money (lukas), Friday, 11 February 2022 04:48 (two years ago) link

84 today, gave up yesterday. I like the new addition of numbering the words and having the most recent guess come up at the top!

Roz, Friday, 11 February 2022 06:51 (two years ago) link

Think I'm getting the hang of this, took me 80.

Pre-Raphaelite Brah (King Boy Pato), Friday, 11 February 2022 07:46 (two years ago) link

Just trying today. I have the 'guess number' but the similarity isn't sorted by highest for me (Firefox). So it's not sorted by either similarity or guess number.

kinder, Friday, 11 February 2022 08:50 (two years ago) link

oh sorry I get it. Most recent goes at the top no matter what but everything else sorted by similarity.

kinder, Friday, 11 February 2022 08:51 (two years ago) link

Got it in 60 - are we all getting the hang of it or was it just easier today?

ledge, Friday, 11 February 2022 08:56 (two years ago) link

136 for me, easier than yesterday but think I need more practice.

joni mitchell jarre (anagram), Friday, 11 February 2022 08:59 (two years ago) link

118!
Yesterday's was more 'nebulous' I think - has connotations of law, science, application... bit more straightforward word today.

kinder, Friday, 11 February 2022 09:08 (two years ago) link

Mr kinder got it in 33

kinder, Friday, 11 February 2022 09:13 (two years ago) link

What is the strategy to adopt here? Is there a number of overall concepts that can be tried with a view to narrowing it down? I'm thinking of Roget's Thesaurus which is divided into six classes - existence, relation, quantity etc.

joni mitchell jarre (anagram), Friday, 11 February 2022 09:18 (two years ago) link

Had to give up yesterday and today. I'm impressed by those who got them both -- I doubt I would have even if I'd kept guessing for another hour. The possibilities are just so vast, frustration sets in after 100 cold guesses...

Sam Weller, Friday, 11 February 2022 09:52 (two years ago) link

Is there a number of overall concepts that can be tried with a view to narrowing it down? I'm thinking of Roget's Thesaurus which is divided into six classes - existence, relation, quantity etc.

I tried it with the thesaurus subcategories that today's word appears in and they are all cold - I would guess they're too far away vertically, you need words that are more synonymous rather than more general, so it's just a case of blundering around till you hit on something.

ledge, Friday, 11 February 2022 10:35 (two years ago) link

it's further complicated by the fact that, apparently, sometimes a direct synonym of one sense of the word can be cold.

ledge, Friday, 11 February 2022 10:39 (two years ago) link

Got today's in 80. I don't think I'll ever be on super-low scores, as my tactic is to get as many data points as I can, rather than hoping to get lucky/be precise in a few guesses. Yesterday's was the first that made me give up, I got to 990 with INVENTIONS but couldn't make the leap.

I do like the new ordering system, but it was very confusing at first. How about adding a line space between the most recent guess and previous guesses?

emil.y, Friday, 11 February 2022 11:08 (two years ago) link

42 today, was in the hundreds for the last couple

devvvine, Friday, 11 February 2022 11:21 (two years ago) link

Found today's in 110 after skirting around it for ages.

Grandpont Genie, Friday, 11 February 2022 11:31 (two years ago) link

I've been struggling with this for a few days, but today I got it in 36.

My first non-cold guess was #14 (758/1000). I then did 20 more cold guesses before getting 943/1000 on #35. And then next guess I got it. Half satisfying, half a shrug of randomness.

Eyeball Kicks, Friday, 11 February 2022 12:01 (two years ago) link

70 today, felt like i steadily advanced on the target for oncd - previous goes have seen some pretty wild & uneven lurches towards the answer

lemmy incaution (emsworth), Friday, 11 February 2022 12:10 (two years ago) link

*once

lemmy incaution (emsworth), Friday, 11 February 2022 12:10 (two years ago) link

Gave up again. FWIW, the closest word I got was "mechanical" which was 20, and then I just kind of got stuck. Once again, I don't get how mechanical is any closer to the word than anything else that I guessed, in fact some other words seem logically closer to me.

longtime caller, first time listener (man alive), Friday, 11 February 2022 15:55 (two years ago) link

a score of 20 I mean

longtime caller, first time listener (man alive), Friday, 11 February 2022 15:56 (two years ago) link

oh hey cool i just started today! 206 baby. proud i didn't give up (almost did about... 180 times)

Kompakt Total Landscaping (Will M.), Friday, 11 February 2022 16:00 (two years ago) link

scores in the 20s are pretty meaningless, i carry on banging random words in till i get in the top 1000 and often well beyond that.

ledge, Friday, 11 February 2022 16:19 (two years ago) link

Since I rarely compute at the weekends I changed my system clock and played tomorrow's and Sundays ^_^ I got both, one somewhat quicker than the other.

ledge, Friday, 11 February 2022 16:39 (two years ago) link


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