pitchfork is dumb (#34985859340293849494 in a series.)

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ha yes I like that

brimstead, Friday, 4 February 2022 22:28 (two years ago) link

black metal definitely isn't as cool as it used to be. Pitchfork publishing Xasthur and Leviathan reviews feels like a century ago

Paul Ponzi, Friday, 4 February 2022 23:42 (two years ago) link

This Birthday Party review is a piece of shit:

"Of all the bands that fit loosely under the umbrella of early-’80s “post-punk” bands, the Birthday Party was easily the sexiest. This is both obvious and the faintest of praise. As far as primal concerns went, being sexy wasn’t a big one for, say, Gang of Four. Only Bauhaus, fellow princelings in the “Don’t call us goth!” boyband olympics, came close. But Peter Murphy’s glam quartet was practically obsessed with being sexy, and even the most performatively minded sex-haver will tell you that too much effort can be a real turn-off. Couple Bauhaus’ preening with Peter Murphy’s somewhat ooky lifelong oedipal relationship with David Bowie, and the field for sallow-cheeked hip thrusters really opens up."

Blah blah blah...

Freeze Instr., Monday, 7 February 2022 01:30 (two years ago) link

That's 2002-quality PFork right there.

papal hotwife (milo z), Monday, 7 February 2022 01:46 (two years ago) link

thought that review was pretty good

Dan S, Monday, 7 February 2022 02:20 (two years ago) link

I avoided them at the time but always wondered what I missed

Dan S, Monday, 7 February 2022 02:21 (two years ago) link

listening to them now, Nick Cave was so savage

Dan S, Monday, 7 February 2022 02:29 (two years ago) link

Paul Ponzi at 5:42 4 Feb 22

black metal definitely isn't as cool as it used to be. Pitchfork publishing Xasthur and Leviathan reviews feels like a century ago

I think people are rightly a lot less willing to handwave away Nazis like those bands in the name of early 00s Vice style edginess

Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Monday, 7 February 2022 03:36 (two years ago) link

also xasthur and leviathan sucked

call all destroyer, Monday, 7 February 2022 03:41 (two years ago) link

I always confuse the Birthday Party with The Wedding Present.

MarkoP, Monday, 7 February 2022 05:25 (two years ago) link

Haven't done so for years, but when I was in high school, I would constantly mix up the Birthday Party and Beat Happening because someone put their songs back-to-back on a mixtape for me, and I could never keep their names straight.

Obviously I resolved that once I graduated high school and started spending much more time with music.

we need outrage! we need dicks!! (the table is the table), Monday, 7 February 2022 20:03 (two years ago) link

top news story on the page today:

Snacks, Bethany Cosentino’s Pet Cat and Best Coast Album Cover Star, Has Died

oh yeah and Betty Davis

Paul Ponzi, Thursday, 10 February 2022 10:00 (two years ago) link

yeah wtf is that

they do have an article about Davis, but it's below the fold. too bad she was never able to reach the heights that Snacks, Bethany Cosentino’s Pet Cat and Best Coast Album Cover Star did in her career

Lavator Shemmelpennick, Thursday, 10 February 2022 11:15 (two years ago) link

From the band’s debut album Crazy For You and the iconic lyric “I wish my cat could talk” (taken from “Goodbye”) on through to the artwork for their 2021 single “Leading,” he quickly became integral to Best Coast’s public-facing identity.

Paul Ponzi, Thursday, 10 February 2022 11:47 (two years ago) link

ICONIC

INTEGRAL

Lavator Shemmelpennick, Thursday, 10 February 2022 12:44 (two years ago) link

Whatever subconscious interest might have existed in my brain to someday check out this band Best Coast…

Lavator Shemmelpennick, Thursday, 10 February 2022 12:45 (two years ago) link

in my feelings about that lil floofer

imago, Thursday, 10 February 2022 12:45 (two years ago) link

Paul Ponzi at 4:00 10 Feb 22

top news story on the page today:

Snacks, Bethany Cosentino’s Pet Cat and Best Coast Album Cover Star, Has Died

oh yeah and Betty Davis


jfc on phone at least this is the top story and Betty Davis is way down the page

Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Thursday, 10 February 2022 13:43 (two years ago) link

Wait, are Xasthur and Leviathan Nazis?

The sensual shock (Sund4r), Thursday, 10 February 2022 13:55 (two years ago) link

xp: Way down the page on the website as well.

peace, man, Thursday, 10 February 2022 14:10 (two years ago) link

I didn't even know that Best Coast had released an album a year or so ago, let alone that it was their first in five years. At that pace they could put that cat on the cover of every album and it *still* wouldn't qualify as iconic. Or at least no more iconic than any cat. I mean, look at this guy:

https://i.imgur.com/fqreLAh.jpg

Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 10 February 2022 14:16 (two years ago) link

I dunno. I remember Snacks the Cat. He's actually the first thing I think of when I hear the words Best Coast. When the first record came out, I think that a moderate amount of attention was paid to him in the press. More than most artist's cats anyway, save for Meredith Grey, Olivia Benson, and Benjamin Button.

peace, man, Thursday, 10 February 2022 14:26 (two years ago) link

For instance, recently I read an interview where american Malefic, better known in bm circles as Xasthur said "The NSBM scene wants nothing to do with Xasthur? I really wasn't aware if it was or not. I'll put it this way, being where I'm from and noticing that the 'minorities' are really the majority, I certainly don't take any offense to NSBM, yet I don't feel the need to wave the NSBM banner."

Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Thursday, 10 February 2022 14:42 (two years ago) link

But the longer you sit with “Spud Infinity,” and “Red Moon,” its closest counterpart, the less their hillbilly trappings come across like winks.

hillbilly trappings

STOCK FIST-PUMPER BRAD (BradNelson), Thursday, 10 February 2022 14:42 (two years ago) link

i think maybe i meant to post that in the big thief thread but whichever

STOCK FIST-PUMPER BRAD (BradNelson), Thursday, 10 February 2022 14:43 (two years ago) link

I dunno, I thought the first Hillbilly Trappings EP was OK.

Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 10 February 2022 14:47 (two years ago) link

at least PF's obit for Betty Davis, a human woman, was longer than the obit for the white lady's cat. (counts words) oh wait nm

nobody like my rap (One Eye Open), Thursday, 10 February 2022 14:54 (two years ago) link

cripes

rob, Thursday, 10 February 2022 14:59 (two years ago) link

how many words are just meows though?

Chappies banging dustbin lids together (President Keyes), Thursday, 10 February 2022 15:00 (two years ago) link

Ugh, do you have a link for that interview, upper ms?

The sensual shock (Sund4r), Thursday, 10 February 2022 15:21 (two years ago) link

Can't we just leave the black metal racist stuff off of this perfectly pleasant thread?

enochroot, Thursday, 10 February 2022 19:28 (two years ago) link

(oh wait, never mind, I thought I was on the EOY albums thread... the pitchfork thread is a trash heap)

enochroot, Thursday, 10 February 2022 19:33 (two years ago) link

hahaha was gonna say

Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Thursday, 10 February 2022 20:01 (two years ago) link

thought this revive would be about 5 BNMs in 5 days, if i'm reading Twitter right

alpine static, Thursday, 10 February 2022 20:14 (two years ago) link

4 BNMs, 1 Best New Reissue

Chappies banging dustbin lids together (President Keyes), Thursday, 10 February 2022 20:25 (two years ago) link

Sam Sodomsky's Sunday review of Death's Symbolic was, for me, a case of – "Never heard of this album; I'm not at all into the genre; but I gotta hear this ASAP!" (...not the first time one of his pieces has had this effect).

a beneficial mulch (morrisp), Monday, 14 February 2022 22:12 (two years ago) link

death is so so good, i'm a metal dilettante and they blow me away

Nedlene Grendel as Basenji Holmo (map), Monday, 14 February 2022 22:20 (two years ago) link

That how I felt about the Iannis review from the other week.

Legalize Suburban Benches (Raymond Cummings), Monday, 14 February 2022 22:30 (two years ago) link

xpost Death are a top tenner for sure.

sorry Mario, but our princess is in another butthole (Neanderthal), Monday, 14 February 2022 22:33 (two years ago) link

i don't remember if Leviathan were nazis, just that Jef Whitehead was a scary, horrible human being who was accused of sexual assault and domestic violence, and continued to write about the person he abused on his albums.

execrable fucking being.

sorry Mario, but our princess is in another butthole (Neanderthal), Monday, 14 February 2022 22:35 (two years ago) link

This Sunday review kicks off with a portrait of L.A. as cliché (that I never care for); mentions the album being “reviewed” in a paragraph early on; spends most of the rest of its time talking about the band’s singer; and seems to cuts off abruptly when you think it’s about to circle back to a bigger point. Weird piece.

punching the clock on a tambo (morrisp), Sunday, 20 February 2022 06:59 (two years ago) link

It also kind of writes off the band’s music as generic.

Chappies banging dustbin lids together (President Keyes), Sunday, 20 February 2022 22:51 (two years ago) link

less than zero is the worst book i’ve ever read

roflrofl fight (voodoo chili), Sunday, 20 February 2022 23:07 (two years ago) link

stop mentioning it in music reviews!!!

roflrofl fight (voodoo chili), Sunday, 20 February 2022 23:07 (two years ago) link

The myth-making/speculation in one paragraph is directly contradicted by the matter-of-fact mundanity of the next:

Su and the Suburban Lawns treated their music like an art project or an accident. Everything they did was part of a performance of being in a band and being public-facing. Maybe that’s why they burned out so fast. They couldn’t sustain that momentum, literally-go-fuck-yourself level of punk rock anonymity.

The band got bigger, enjoying the kind of cult rock band success that led the freaky miscreants to open for U2 and the Clash. And after the release of Suburban Lawns, they went on to release one more EP for IRS, Baby, where they ditched Emmons as a producer for Richard Mazda, who had produced the Fall and the Fleshtones. It wasn’t nearly as well-received, and the band split up shortly afterwards.

punching the clock on a tambo (morrisp), Sunday, 20 February 2022 23:13 (two years ago) link

"And when it came to Los Angeles, they wrote about it from the margins, freeways, and from a deep anger towards the superficial quality of Hollywood." Freeways?

Freeze Instr., Monday, 21 February 2022 00:20 (two years ago) link

"The cold hard facts are sparse. They were probably art school kids." The first sentence of their wiki: "Suburban Lawns were an American post-punk band formed in Long Beach, California in 1978 by CalArts students William "Vex Billingsgate" Ranson and Sue "Su Tissue" McLane."

Freeze Instr., Monday, 21 February 2022 00:28 (two years ago) link

The review wants to drum up some "Searching for Sugar Man" narrative as if the author is blown away that there exists something or someone that would not be easily Googled.

And, that it is weird and remarkable and even a "conceptual art project" there would even exist a human being who would not want to hop promptly onto whichever self-mythologizing nostalgia bandwagon rolled their way.

When these are good they're good but some of them are ridiculous...

Freeze Instr., Monday, 21 February 2022 00:57 (two years ago) link

On the positive side I'm listening now to her LP "Salon de Musique" and it's very cool.

Freeze Instr., Monday, 21 February 2022 01:01 (two years ago) link

less than zero is the worst book i’ve ever read

― roflrofl fight (voodoo chili)

agreed with this, or at least worst book i've finished. holy shit, i felt so empty after that

dig your way out of the shit with a gold magic shovel! (Karl Malone), Monday, 21 February 2022 02:12 (two years ago) link


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