a kind of simulation but better than the real thing ever was - the Tom McCarthy thread

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keen followers of this thread during its recent updates will be interested to know that i almost threw this book down in boredom and irritation but then thought of those who needed me to continue and so, shackleton like, i go on.

Fizzles, Thursday, 3 February 2022 19:35 (two years ago) link

I'm glad to hear that it's bad.

the pinefox, Friday, 4 February 2022 17:01 (two years ago) link

on the last leg shackleton of his big anarctic journey shackleton encountered (a) an unbelievably vast rogue sea-wave which his little boat nevertheless weathered bcz they were master seamen and (b) this guy:

Who is the third who walks always beside you?
When I count, there are only you and I together
But when I look ahead up the white road
There is always another one walking beside you
Gliding wrapt in a brown mantle, hooded
I do not know whether a man or a woman
—But who is that on the other side of you?

(or so the famous footnotes claim, but imo they're a misdirection: it's obviously actually a reference to COUNT MAGNUS)

mark s, Friday, 4 February 2022 17:07 (two years ago) link

lol imagine the first sentence is written properly

mark s, Friday, 4 February 2022 17:08 (two years ago) link

keen followers of this thread during its recent updates will be interested to know that i almost threw this book down in boredom and irritation but then thought of those who needed me to continue and so, shackleton like, i go on.


Channeling Oates, specifically Mahon’s Oates, I would have said? He was even kind enough to include me, mark and the pinefox.

The others nod, pretending not to know.
At the heart of the ridiculous, the sublime.
He leaves them reading and begins to climb,

mardheamac (gyac), Friday, 4 February 2022 19:14 (two years ago) link

TLS review has it about right:

The passage, like the novel that contains it, requires maximal engagement for minimal returns,

i’m gradually reaching the end of my desire to read this. it’s that point where you realise the possibility of redeeming some of the ideas presented is not likely to happen before the pages run out.

pinefox, i agree i do not think you would like this book.

Fizzles, Sunday, 6 February 2022 18:36 (two years ago) link


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