Down With the Sickness: Canadian Politics 2022

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CBC reporter summarizing Ottawa Police Chief Sloly's statement:

To sum it up:
Thousands more Convoy protestors expected this weekend.
Convoy being funded by American$
Counter protestors are also going to show
Ottawa Police can't handle this occupation on own
Mayor says need provincial and federal help
Military may need to be called in

— Judy Trinh (@judyatrinh) February 2, 2022

The sensual shock (Sund4r), Thursday, 3 February 2022 02:40 (two years ago) link

We've tried nothing and we're all out of ideas

jmm, Thursday, 3 February 2022 02:55 (two years ago) link

many xps but i share your derision and frustration with these truck demons, they seem dickish and i'm not trying to add additional dickishness to the equation

i cannot help if you made yourself not funny (forksclovetofu), Thursday, 3 February 2022 04:03 (two years ago) link

Just got an email from my local hospital saying that they are CANCELLING THEIR URGENT CARE CLINIC on Saturday due to expected trucknutz in the neighbourhood...

m0stly clean (Slowsquatch), Thursday, 3 February 2022 23:01 (two years ago) link

Wtf? Are you in Ottawa?

The sensual shock (Sund4r), Thursday, 3 February 2022 23:42 (two years ago) link

Trawna.
Hospital's near Queen's Park....

m0stly clean (Slowsquatch), Friday, 4 February 2022 00:10 (two years ago) link

Yeah there is some convoy tronno copycat protest this Saturday. Their plan is apparently to meet up at a bunch of malls and travel from there. I mean, have any of these people ever actually been to the Yorkdale parking lot on a Saturday? Good luck w that!

Kim, Friday, 4 February 2022 01:05 (two years ago) link

I was thinking of driving into the city tomorrow to see the Poly Styrene documentary at the Bloor, but thinking about this thing, I think I'll skip it--have a feeling getting anywhere downtown will be an ordeal.

clemenza, Friday, 4 February 2022 01:39 (two years ago) link

Good move, she has a big trucker constituency who are sure to be congregating at Bloor and Bathurst.

Halfway there but for you, Friday, 4 February 2022 01:51 (two years ago) link

You gotta get into the city first...Gardiner, Lakeshore, they'll both be bad.

clemenza, Friday, 4 February 2022 02:00 (two years ago) link

I know it's not the biggest issue but can I just mention how unsettling the constant horns are when you're actually trying to drive and are used to a horn being a signal that means "pay attention!" or "watch out!" Not to mention that when someone was charging towards me bc they were going the wrong way on a one-way street, I couldn't even be sure my honk would be understood.

The sensual shock (Sund4r), Friday, 4 February 2022 03:28 (two years ago) link

Apparently Ottawa is planning to quell the noise a bit this weekend by installing signs at the city limits saying “WELCOME TO OTTAWA - HONK IF YOU LOVE TRUDEAU”

war mice (hardcore dilettante), Friday, 4 February 2022 04:23 (two years ago) link

Haha

The sensual shock (Sund4r), Friday, 4 February 2022 05:06 (two years ago) link

The Ottawa Police Service and its partners are implementing a surge and contain strategy in Ottawa’s downtown neighbourhoods to further protect neighbourhoods, restore order and prevent unlawful activity.

In connection with ongoing demonstrations, Ottawa’s downtown residents and businesses continue to be severely impacted by unlawful acts, including harassment, mischief, hate crimes, and noise violations. We know that additional demonstrators are coming, and we are significantly increasing our policing resources to respond.

To prevent and reduce the impacts of demonstrators entering the downtown core, and to improve neighbourhood safety, the Ottawa Police Service is implementing the following measures – effective immediately

Major deployment of police officers in the downtown neighbourhoods: There will be approximately 150 additional uniformed and non-uniformed officers dedicated to only patrolling and addressing unlawful and threatening conduct in the most impacted neighbourhoods including: Centretown, Sandy Hill, Lowertown and the Byward Market. This includes working with City and NCR officials to prevent unlawful and unsafe use of public space by demonstrators.

Expand and harden perimeter of the demonstration red zone: The Ottawa Police Service and City of Ottawa will be utilizing concrete and heavy equipment barricades to create no-access roadways throughout the downtown core. The City of Ottawa will be releasing a map of impacted roads later today. Protestor vehicles will be directed to designated parking zones outside of the downtown core. Illegal parking by demonstrators will result in by-law enforcement, removal and impound. If necessary, interprovincial bridges, highway off ramps and/or roads will be closed.

Enforcement directives: The surge of police officers will result in enforcement to restore public safety. This includes increased investigation enforcement and charges for all criminal acts related hate, harassment, assaults (including spitting), intimidation, and mischief.

Enhanced intelligence operations and investigations: National, provincial and local intelligence agencies have increased efforts to identify and target protestors who are funding/supporting/enabling unlawful and harmful activity by protestors. Investigative evidence-gathering teams are collecting financial, digital, vehicle registration, driver identification, insurance status, and other related evidence that will be used in criminal prosecutions. Every unlawful act, including traffic violations, will be fully pursued regardless of origin.

The primary focus of each of these measures will be on the unlawful behaviour connected to the ongoing demonstrations (including parallel and counter demonstrations).

We strongly urge all demonstrators and those engaging with demonstrators to act lawfully, peacefully and respectfully.

Guess we'll see how it plays out this time.
https://www.ottawapolice.ca/Modules/News/index.aspx?lang=en&newsId=0f31ea4e-110e-434c-b817-04c3d23f1ede

The sensual shock (Sund4r), Friday, 4 February 2022 16:38 (two years ago) link

Protestor vehicles will be directed to designated parking zones outside of the downtown core. Illegal parking by demonstrators will result in by-law enforcement, removal and impound.

Does that mean that the convoy has to stay moving in order to remain downtown?

jmm, Friday, 4 February 2022 16:41 (two years ago) link

Incidentally, here's a story about a 4yo with brain cancer who missed his chemo appointment bc of the occupation, at the height of which every bridge between Ottawa and Gatineau was blocked: https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/ottawa/ottawa-truck-convoy-protest-child-health-care-delay-cancer-cheo-1.6338038

The sensual shock (Sund4r), Friday, 4 February 2022 16:41 (two years ago) link

Jmm, I'm hoping it means they will have to park their vehicles and actually march or stand on their feet on the Hill like normal demonstrators do.

The sensual shock (Sund4r), Friday, 4 February 2022 16:42 (two years ago) link

I really feel for you being right there sund4r. I’d imagine it’s all super unsettling, like your house has been robbed.

Kim, Friday, 4 February 2022 16:45 (two years ago) link

thx

The sensual shock (Sund4r), Friday, 4 February 2022 16:46 (two years ago) link

seriously, constant horn honking would drive me to murder

rob, Friday, 4 February 2022 17:39 (two years ago) link

Former President Trump throws support (again) behind Ottawa protest, describing it as standing up to “harsh policies of far left lunatic Justin Trudeau”. Trump lashes out against Facebook and GoFundMe.

— Katie Simpson (@CBCKatie) February 4, 2022

The sensual shock (Sund4r), Friday, 4 February 2022 18:23 (two years ago) link

Why Gofundme? Did they pull support?

m0stly clean (Slowsquatch), Friday, 4 February 2022 18:33 (two years ago) link

I mean, have any of these people ever actually been to the Yorkdale parking lot on a Saturday?

True enough. Stay away from Sherway, too, convoy people.

clemenza, Friday, 4 February 2022 18:35 (two years ago) link

btw https://www.ctvnews.ca/politics/mps-agree-to-call-gofundme-to-testify-over-trucker-convoy-fundraiser-1.5766591

The Gofundme page was started by two right-wing extremists who are not truckers themselves aiui.

The sensual shock (Sund4r), Friday, 4 February 2022 18:51 (two years ago) link

Thanks Sund4r, I guess we'll see how that shakes out...

m0stly clean (Slowsquatch), Friday, 4 February 2022 19:32 (two years ago) link

Seeing "Let's Go Brandeau" on some signs. That's at least two layers of inanity.

jmm, Friday, 4 February 2022 21:22 (two years ago) link

I often have the news on in the next room while I'm at the computer. I even find the honking in a news story really annoying.

clemenza, Saturday, 5 February 2022 06:04 (two years ago) link

GoFundMe says the Freedom Convoy 2022 fundraiser “is now in violation of our Terms of Service (Term 8, which prohibits the promotion of violence and harassment) and has been removed from the platform.”

— Sarah Sears (@iamSas) February 4, 2022

The sensual shock (Sund4r), Saturday, 5 February 2022 13:41 (two years ago) link

That probably isn’t actually net good news - because it’s galvanizing, and is definitely going to intensify the American attention and interference that’s already been happening. Already saw an avalanche of inflammatory tweets that were basically raging like “they stole your donations and gave them to BLM instead!” Seems weird or foolish that the Ottawa police are on there almost taking credit for it too.

Kim, Saturday, 5 February 2022 16:00 (two years ago) link

Hopefully someone there is smart enough to give a bunch of it to the Terry Fox Foundation

rob, Saturday, 5 February 2022 16:08 (two years ago) link

Didn’t Ottawa police reported the violations to GoFundMe?

Van Horn Street, Saturday, 5 February 2022 16:10 (two years ago) link

Yeah, it's blowing up right wing Twitter. On the other hand, it also means that they're no longer raising millions of dollars. I might take that deal!

The sensual shock (Sund4r), Saturday, 5 February 2022 16:10 (two years ago) link

Has anyone ever seen police respond this way to a crowd?

Wondering why there were no cops at the 100+ person street party with a DJ on a truck at Rideau and Sussex last night?

The protestors chased them off.

Here is video from one prominent protestor from last night #cdnpoli #ottnews #TruckerConvoy2022 https://t.co/W80MUSmYEF pic.twitter.com/7Jl9ttbeJ7

— Mackenzie Gray (@Gray_Mackenzie) February 5, 2022

The sensual shock (Sund4r), Saturday, 5 February 2022 16:30 (two years ago) link

I figure odds are about 65-35 this will backfire on the Tories and strengthen Trudeau's Liberals. I don't think the average suburban Canadian voter wants to ally themselves with this sort of thing. I'm not ruling the possibility of a genuinely scary pan-national hard right coalition developing successfully out of this, though.

I'm still a little baffled as to when mainstream conservatives decided they were cool with terrorism and insurrection in their own countries.

The sensual shock (Sund4r), Saturday, 5 February 2022 17:01 (two years ago) link

Isn't the most obvious answer the correct one: with Trump (Jan. 6, earlier, at some point)?

clemenza, Saturday, 5 February 2022 17:09 (two years ago) link

genuinely scary pan-national hard right coalition

I had the idea that one of the things working against this was the PPC hating the Conservatives as much as they hate the other parties.

Halfway there but for you, Saturday, 5 February 2022 17:12 (two years ago) link

...but a similar coalition happened when the Reform Party essentially took over the PCs, so who knows.

Halfway there but for you, Saturday, 5 February 2022 17:13 (two years ago) link

^^^

The sensual shock (Sund4r), Saturday, 5 February 2022 17:29 (two years ago) link

Glad I stayed clear of the city: going by the news coverage, sounds like there's a second jammed-up area at Avenue and Bloor, and they closed a Gardiner off-ramp an hour ago. CNN is giving Ottawa lots of coverage, which I'm sure just encourages them.

clemenza, Saturday, 5 February 2022 18:59 (two years ago) link

Isn't the most obvious answer the correct one: with Trump (Jan. 6, earlier, at some point)?

Right. I'm just trying to get my head around how a Chamber of Commerce type or a moral traditionalist looks at that and thinks "OTM".

The sensual shock (Sund4r), Saturday, 5 February 2022 19:20 (two years ago) link

Ottawa Police Chief Sloly: This is a siege. This is something different than I have ever experienced in my life … it’s not a demonstration, it’s not an occupation.

— Sarah Sears (@iamSas) February 5, 2022

The sensual shock (Sund4r), Saturday, 5 February 2022 23:16 (two years ago) link

I went to check out the City Hall counter-protest briefly. It was pretty small, just a few hundred people, with a few dozen OPS standing between the crowds on Laurier. I think the cold was keeping many people from sticking around.

jmm, Sunday, 6 February 2022 00:51 (two years ago) link

Woot woot 👏 https://t.co/LTaVaTO1Zn

— NanaK (@NanaKCanada) February 5, 2022

m0stly clean (Slowsquatch), Sunday, 6 February 2022 03:35 (two years ago) link

I enjoyed seeing the counterprotesters in downtown vncouver this afternoon

symsymsym, Sunday, 6 February 2022 04:08 (two years ago) link

I went to check out the City Hall counter-protest briefly. It was pretty small, just a few hundred people, with a few dozen OPS standing between the crowds on Laurier. I think the cold was keeping many people from sticking around.

Didn't know about this; will go to one if I hear about it.

The sensual shock (Sund4r), Sunday, 6 February 2022 14:40 (two years ago) link

Darn, I should have texted you. Next time. I found out about it on the Ottawa subreddit.

jmm, Sunday, 6 February 2022 16:01 (two years ago) link

I hope no one gets hurt, but the Vancouver bikers story was really cheering to read about.

Just read this in a CBC story: "But acting Deputy Chief Trish Ferguson said both laws and judgment have to be considered, as police believe that situation could become dangerous quickly."

Ah, so when the police attack land defenders and people concerned about the homeless, it's because they're certain those people pose no threat but they prefer to use overwhelming violent force anyway—very cool!

rob, Sunday, 6 February 2022 17:03 (two years ago) link


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