Ongoing U.S Police Brutality and Corruption Discussion Thread

Can’t fathom US jurisdictions giving up local sovereignty willingly. Springfield needs cops in case Shelbyville gets any ideas.

local cops are a revenue stream (as everyone itt knows of course)

they have state police but i'm not sure i understand what having state police only would help with?

― towards fungal computer (harbl), Friday, January 28, 2022 1:07 PM (one hour ago) bookmarkflaglink

the question was inspired by the murderous officer who had been fired by one force and walked down the street to join another. that can't happen if there's one force.

but i think generally state institutions are less corrupt than city/county institutions, in part because turnout for city/county institutions is approximately zero.

turnout?

turnout for elections for law enforcement. the people in charge get elected by their friends and employees, which is enough in an election with so few voters.

i confess i'm getting more and more confused here

only sheriffs are elected and in a lot of places sheriffs don't do "police" things

1. electing law enforcement in elections with turnouts in the hundreds or low thousands leads to corruption.

2. having thousands of street level law enforcement institutions, i.e. police, sheriffs, state troopers, highway patrol, transit cops, etc. allows obvious criminals to literally walk a few blocks and get a new job as a police officer or sheriff.

it's obviously *possible* for a country to have a few tens of police forces nationally. most countries do this.

i mean electing anyone in elections with turnouts in the hundreds or low thousands leads to corruption, but sheriffs happen to be incredibly powerful people with a particular inclination to corruption.

i still don't understand because i have never voted for police chief or state trooper but you have to remember your plan would severely curtail the ability of otherwise unemployable people to collect pensions from three distinct governments at the same time

obviously i understand my plan isn't going to happen. i'm just wondering whether the "only" reason things are this way here is $$/power, of there are actual constitutional or legal things preventing the states completely taking over policing (which they should).

i can be arrested by like 8 different law enforcement agencies as i go about my day in LA. this is not normal or good.

we have school police here which is so great

i do not know the history of the origin of e.g., transit police, the washington suburban sanitary commission police, park police, etc., but there is no federal law against a state having only state police. more likely state constitutions are the problem because sheriffs are in a lot of state constitutions, along with a lot of other stuff enabling local governments. also there is extreme variation among and even within states so idk. the state troopers in MD are primary in some rural areas (and they killed a 17-year-old last year). some counties here use the sheriff as their police agency and some just use them for court-related duties and have a separate county police department. i love to get documents from CA and see "sheriff-coroner" if ever there were two duties that should not be combined.

in terms of federal law though there is no doubt that homeland security funding has entrenched these random tiny police departments like WSSC

holy SHIT, this missouri bill. it expands Stand Your Ground and is basically an invitation for murderers like Kyle Rittenhouse

Because this is Missouri and there’s no shortage of racism, I also want you all to know about one of the worst bills I have ever seen in Missouri General Assembly.

Senate Bill 666 makes Missouri a safe haven for the lynching of black men.

🧵

— Lindsey Simmons (@LynzforCongress) February 1, 2022

Jesus that Missouri bill is terrible.

Meanwhile, this is a Facebook post from a county sheriff's department just west of us: https://www.facebook.com/lcsotn/posts/268854602026771

They're urging vindictive exes to turn in their former paramours. "Do you have an ex-Valentine and know they have outstanding warrants? Do you have information that they are driving with drugs in their car? Give us a call with their location and we’ll take care of the rest." You need to click through for the photo of the roses with the handcuffs.

Maybe next time he’ll think before he cheats

https://www.baltimoresun.com/maryland/anne-arundel/bs-xpm-2010-02-15-bal-md-ar-sting15feb15-story.html

I'm not going to watch this because from the description and the comments it sounds so horrible:

Body camera footage has been released showing a Minneapolis Police officer fatally shooting 22-year-old Amir Rahkare Locke in a downtown apartment early Wednesday morning while executing a no-knock search warrant. [Content warning.] https://t.co/TZUdpFYnGB

— Tony Webster (@webster) February 4, 2022

love this kind of language

NEW: Mayor Frey, on his website falsely claiming he banned no-knock warrants: “Language became more casual, including my own, which did not reflect the necessary precision or nuance, and I own that.” @WCCO pic.twitter.com/wAhJHJxt0L

— David Schuman (@david_schuman) February 7, 2022

Looks like a character from a '00s indie movie

Looks like the guy from Mad Man who ripped off his own nipple

He is fucking terrible.

look like he's cgi

https://scontent-msp1-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t39.30808-6/fr/cp0/e15/q65/273213014_10159559799215482_8872410818678993807_n.jpg

https://ibb.co/GC8PLV7

The Bridgewater Mall Fight is the clearest example of how police actively use race as a shorthand for who they perceive as a threat.

See for yourself. pic.twitter.com/ThJPQFNEzO

— Benjamin Dixon (@BenjaminPDixon) February 16, 2022

In addition to my reasonable hobbies (Semantle, pottery), I have an unreasonable hobby: trying to end placard abuse in NYC. It's not exactly murder (except when they park in bike lanes), but it's still pretty bad to have cops who don't follow the law. I file 311 complaints, and then when they are wrongly closed, I call police stations. Sometimes I call Internal Affairs. This is pretty quixotic, but I feel compelled to continue.

This would be much easier if I could just shoot a photo over to some agency that would police the police. You know, not the NYPD -- some other agency. That's what NYC already has for idling (I filed my first two idling complaints this month, and it's very easy).

There was a bill proposed a few years ago to allow this for placard abuse, and I want to bring it back: https://nyc.streetsblog.org/2020/11/19/pol-introduces-bill-to-let-citizens-report-placard-abuse-and-win-cash/ So please, dear New Yorkers, call your city council member and ask for Int-2159-2020 to be reintroduced. All it will take is 2 minutes of your time.

yes, they're violent babies, but they also suck at their job

Some details from my first investigation with @CBSNews:

Cops in the US only solve about HALF of murders in the US. It's the lowest rate ever recorded. https://t.co/Y5LAyAdFGJ pic.twitter.com/NNBdB0uxUf

— Chris Hacker (@chrishnews) June 29, 2022

And this is as they’ve become more ideologically aligned and heavily militarized, don’t want to mistake correlation and causation but there’s something there.

Also, fuck the cops 🙂

hmm, maybe we're not paying them enough

They probably need more armored personnel carriers. That should solve the problem.

this is good

"We Own This City illustrates the U.S. in microcosm: a society in collapse because the security forces entrusted to protect its core liberal values actually reject them as threats to security."

Stuart Schrader on David Simon's latest HBO series: https://t.co/bZgFN3xX0v

— Boston Review (@BostonReview) June 29, 2022

lmao

Who is not showing up today:
-- Sheriff Villanueva, whose lawyer told COC he fears for safety because public has shown up to hearings wearing "F the sheriff" shirts
-- Undersheriff Murakami, who relayed to COC that testifying would be too stressful & create adverse health risk

— Alene Tchekmedyian (@AleneTchek) July 1, 2022

this situation in Akron (my hometown) is so depressing.

Ok so there was rioting (the nature of which is unclear to me) in downtown Akron last night and today there are protesters headed ostensibly to the mayor's house which is max 2 blocks from where my mom lives/my childhood home.
at the same time, there is an active shooter situation in a nearby suburb to me and it feels like the country is on fire
USA USA USA :(

Press release from my local sheriff’s department, illustrating again the peerless competence of our Good Guys With Guns:

At approximately 10:57 pm on July 5, 2022, Officers were on a call in the 8200 block of Brickyard Road in Powell. As Officers were outside the residence, a large pit bull came around the trailer attacking Officer Lydia Driver. In an attempt to subdue the pit bull Officer Driver’s Partner Officer Jordan Hurst discharged his duty weapon, inadvertently striking Officer Driver in the left leg. Officer Driver was transported to The University of Tennessee Medical Center, where she underwent emergency surgery. Officer Driver is recovering in the Intensive Care Unit.

The Sheriff seems to forget that he is elected by the civilians. He's such a putz.

A Little League baseball coach was fired for this encounter in the high-five line after his team lost a game last weekend. Kenneth Wendt is also a sergeant with the Harris County Pct. 5 Constable's Office. @xmanwalton has more tonight at 10. #khou11

MORE: https://t.co/d2nYjxkboB pic.twitter.com/0ZbT552B8N

— KHOU 11 News Houston (@KHOU) July 12, 2022

cw: police brutality

Video captures 3 Arkansas police officers beating a man outside convenience store in Crawford County pic.twitter.com/b9GyBk11Ou

— BNO News (@BNONews) August 21, 2022

West Virginia cops rolled up on a guy at his dad's funeral and straight up merked him while he was hugging his sister https://t.co/FVoVpvPi5N

— ryan cooper (@ryanlcooper) August 26, 2022

scum of the earth

point has been made ad nauseum but i still can't get over how disgusting these headlines are

(UK equivalent is "died in police custody" but it rarely even makes headlines when it happens)

The Rayshard Brooks killing has been whitewashed covered up ruled not a crime--by a couple of lawyers tapped by the state, not by a jury.

i'm told there is some absolutely crazy shit going on with the LA sheriff's department rn

like, even more than usual

yes

lmao

BREAKING: The Los Angeles County Sheriff's Department says their legal representation has been fired as the Kuehl, Giggans and Metro search warrants are challenged in court.

The department is now seeking pro bono representation in this matter, according to a statement. https://t.co/F3HvJs54Ew

— Kate Cagle (@KateCagle) September 16, 2022

Pro bono? LOL

Villanueva has lost his mind. This will not end well.

"The Los Angeles County Sheriff's Department says their legal representation has been fired ..."

Rudy Giuliani has let the department know he's available.