Star Wars: The Disney+ Empire Strikes Again and Again and...

I’m pretty sure that shooting at native peoples from a train for the hell of it, or due to some past conflict, isn’t something the show writers invented

Yeah this point was totally clear

Sure. I don't want to shit on this show, but y'all are nuts if you think this is good TV. Especially when you compare it to the Mandolorian.

I mean, I don't care if you hate it, but your terrible description of basic plot points leads me to believe you barely paid attention to what was on the screen.

That is possible. It was not engaging.

A reason people are a little prickly about this is that the reference points are obvious and very ugly
https://www.pbs.org/wgbh/americanexperience/features/tcrr-native-americans-and-transcontinental-railroad/

This is not a hill I want to die on, but that is a story about clashes between railroad builders and Native Americans. Boba Fett had a story about dudes zooming through a landscape (why are they not just flying in the air? Who knows?) taking potshots at Tuskan Raiders for unexplained reasons other than that they are assholes. Seems like a shaky parallel to me, but if that was their intent, fine.

I believe they are shooting at them because they are raiders. Perhaps flight is expensive for the amount or weight of cargo. Or maybe a train is safer for transporting illegal stuff.

DJI, i'm sympathetic to your desire to not read too much into a space chambara but i do think the parallels with genuine aboriginal v colonizer wars - whether american or elsewhere - were clearly intentional
https://gizmodo.com/how-the-book-of-boba-fett-evolved-star-wars-view-of-the-1848361263

that said, i stopped on the second episode and - though I'll likely go back - I've found this notably less charming and clever than the mando and baby yoda program. not really sure why, except that neither temuera or ming-na haven't been much fun to watch.

they are both v low-key actors & the pacing of Boba Fett series is a lot slower than Mando seemed

to my memory anyway

But the thing is I'm loving practically every minute of it.

I hope the Obi-Wan series is better, but GD do I have Tatooine burnout

I thought the attack on the train was a Lawrence of Arabia reference, though it's been a long time since I saw it.

What a great episode
Baby F’in Greedo!
“I used to date a jawa…”

xxposts to Ned: same!

but when SPOILER showed up i was like aaaaaaahhhhh omg i missed u boo

The original Mando series had to prove Star Wars could work as a TV serial without sacrificing any of the production quality and visual imagination while finding new ways to expand the types of stories that could exist within the Star Wars mythos. This lent a dimension of danger to the weekly unfolding of each episode, even if the overarching motif was still that of marrying two ultimately conservative forms: the Western and the Space Opera. It seems, at least so far, Boba has doubled down on the more conservative aspects of the Mando series - more of a burrowing into a small section of the mythos than a pushing outward of the envelope.

Mandy was also (mostly) fun, even when it was junky fun. Fett isn’t much fun, IMO, not sure why

o nate - yeah that seems right

i love the digging-in aspect of it, i think bc slow pacing is not as common in these kinds of shows it is good that there’s a lot of room to explore

also i know its been a thing w this character for ages now but it occurred to me just the other day that it is so powerful that Morrison uses his native accent & is not having to do some kind of generic american accent or something

I hope the Obi-Wan series is better, but GD do I have Tatooine burnout

Oh god, so much this. With such an expansive universe, I'm over Tatooine. But I'm sure Obi-Wan will spend at least some time there.

we all need to appreciate that Favreau+Dis wrote a script that let the Star Wars universe have Jerri Blank

There's been at least one thing in each episode I've enjoyed, but overall, this Boba Fett season has felt kind of flat

I'm more of a Star Trek person than Star Wars, but I think for TV that is basically aimed at the enteral 12 year old, The Mandolorian/Boba Fett has been pretty cool.

I've been both Star Wars and Star Trek but have been slowly rebranding as a Dune guy

Still, too much sand on these Star Wars shows

sand wars: the series

Tatooine is like Smallville in the old Superboy comics; a sleepy backwater where thrilling adventures constantly happen, out of narrative necessity.

Just wanna say it was extremely cool to see a torus space cityscape in this.

I hope the Obi-Wan series is better, but GD do I have Tatooine burnout

Good job the Mandalorian featured several other planets! Which were mostly indistinguishable from Tatooine.

I've been both Star Wars and Star Trek but have been slowly rebranding as a Dune guy

Star Wars seems to be rebranding as a Dune guy as well.

Considering finally watching Zardoz to decide whether I could be a Zardoz guy

in terms of your personal style? I'd say yes, absolutely!

oh man, the latest episode reminded me of just how much I love Star Wars <3

The Mandalorian s3: The Book of Boba Fett: Return of Glup Shitto

I really didn’t need more Luke Skywalker, but training that stubborn little green guy was kind of fun

drake recoils: luke and grogu
drake approves: cad fucking bane

ughhhh going to have to go back to avoiding this thread since we aren't using spoiler tags

I used the wrong tag. Sorry, jon!

I mean just as much my fault for clicking on the thread before we watched, I should know better (actually forgot it was already Wednesday earlier!).

A lot going on. Didn't feel like it was just 47 minutes!

Too many shifts of focus and not enough story. Bit of a mess. The lack of Boba Fett in the last few episodes suggests they realised it was a rubbish idea to make a show about Boba Fett halfway through production and panicked.

...and way too soon for the return of Groggu. Displays a not very Jedi-like lack of patience.

I think of it really as
The Mandalorian s3: The Book of Boba Fett
and then in a smaller subtitle
The Return of Glup Shitto

good bits: timothy olyphant, grogu cheesy training montage, and yes cad fucking bane

bad bits: CGI luke (lol @ not showing him speaking as much as possible so that we don't see just how incredibly bad the audio/cgi sync is), bringing back ahsoka to do absolutely nothing, trying to figure out whether this is still boba fett: origins

my thoughts: lol fooled u haven't seen it but u smell bad and should feel bad

fair

why is call all destroyer in this?

I am really picky about this shit and I thought that in most shots chi Luke was a vast improvement over previous attempts - if minimizing the up close dialogue enhanced the effect then GOOD. These people are artists, not wizards. As far as Ahsoka, in the plot sense I took it as her continuing her connection to Grogu by overseeing his transition and looking out for him a little, despite not taking him on herself. In the practical sense I think she was included #1 for fan service and #2 just to introduce her character to any viewers who somehow haven’t watched Clone Wars, Rebels, or Mando. Those people might exist.

sorry chi = cgi

The io9 types have been venting about this episode’s ending which is kinda funny because Bleeding Cool pointed out something rather relevant they missed.

As in io9 writers or commenters? There are a few sharp minds in both, but not enough to keep me going to that site these days

I will say the ending scene has caused a great deal of consternation among the 10 year-old audience, picked up my son from school yesterday and there was heated discussion among his friends that Luke was "the biggest jerk ever" for making Grogu choose