Star Trek: Classic or Dud?

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we just watched S4E11 Data’s Day wherein we learn that DATA HAS A CAT (!)

i think the next episode is our first (?) introduction to the Cardassians :D

by we i mean I learned
mr veg already knew obv

O Spot, the complex levels of behavior you display
Connote a fairly well-developed cognitive array.
And though you are not sentient, Spot, and do not comprehend,
I nonetheless consider you a true and valued friend.

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Cardassian ep was v good, enjoyed it a lot

Marc Alaimo! i want to give him a shoutout, i think in terms of actors who do their thing under insane layers of effects makeup, he’s got to be up there with the greats for DS9. As this Cardassian in TNG, this handlebar mustached (lmao so weird) Gul Macet, you cannot take your eyes off him. His physicality, the way he uses his voice & that great duplicitous stare - fuckin badass. Love him.

too irl creepy

voyager repeats in their last week. neelix has gone, the doctor said his farewells yesterday thinking he was dying and then didn't (awks), everything seems to be winding down. can't remember how it ends tbh.

xpost i meant aside from that obv

xp janeway breaking all the rules for little reason

Saw episode with Famke Jensen in it the other night. No memory of her having been on TNG. I swear there was another "hypersexual female nonhuman comes aboard and causes the men to lose their collective shit" episode too.

classic gene rod

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aRk-DQUUlz8

Part of the appeal of the show for me. For awhile I thought that I was imagining that that sound remains in the background during scenes rather than just interstitials. Sooooo cozy to watch episodes at night which mainly take at night and are not action-y. Picard chillin in his quarters drinking some earl grey. Riker silently fingering his…sax. Data watching Spot snooze. Ahhh.

Just watched the DS9 ep where Jadzia goes to the Trill homeworld to work out why her symbiont is faltering, and I was remembering the same pools in caves in a Disco episode from some time back. Apparently, those 2 eps arethe only times in all of ST history we ever see Trill world!

Dammit Riker plays the trombone huh

unfortunately yes

"Sooooo cozy to watch episodes at night which mainly take at night..."

Oops, "episodes that take place on ship..."

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZPoqNeR3_UA

Before noise-cancelling headphones were a thing, I used to play this in my ears all day at work.

I'm sure I got it from somewhere up in the start of this thread.

Saw episode with Famke Jensen in it the other night. No memory of her having been on TNG. I swear there was another "hypersexual female nonhuman comes aboard and causes the men to lose their collective shit" episode too.

I believe there's a Lwaxana Troi episode on DS9 where this happens.

Here it is: https://memory-alpha.fandom.com/wiki/Fascination_(episode)

Absolutely amazing thread

I know a secret Star Trek story.

As an LA teenager in the 1980s I paid to attend a talk by Harve Bennett & Nicholas Meyer, as I was nerd enough to know that Bennett had produced ‘Wrath Of Khan’ & ‘Search For Spock’ and had written the latter, while Meyer had directed ‘WoK’.

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— Jonathan Korman (@miniver) January 23, 2022

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Prodigy's last episode was quite clever in that classic timey-wimey way!

a+ thread

On 29th January 1996, "Threshold", the Star Trek: Voyager episode where Captain Janeway and Tom Paris turned into giant space newts and had babies first aired. In advance of #ThresholdDay we aim to answer a burning question: did Paris and Janeway fuck? If so, how did they fuck? pic.twitter.com/Hp3sA4Ix2W

— Vagina Museum (@vagina_museum) January 28, 2022

Thanking u

I like it.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Op2lTZqC5z8

Per an io9 mention:

Fans who subscribe to the Paramount+ streaming service will have the first chance to check out this enhanced version, as the remasters movie will premiere there on April 5, less than a month away, in celebration of Star Trek’s “First Contact Day.” Not a subscriber? Luckily, the film will also be returning to theaters on May 22 and May 25, with assistance from Fathom Events. Can’t make it to a theater either? Well, you’ll be able to purchase the movie in Blu-ray form in September, with a host of extras that are yet to be announced.

Fingers crossed that they've knocked this one out of the park.

Encouraged!

I mean, they could pull off very tasteful and convincing new VFX for the original Director's Edition release on DVD, so there's no reason to worry, right?

Dear Paramount Plus - remaster DS9 and I promise to subscribe instead of just using my brother's account

lol

yessssssssss

Big ol' interview with the main mover behind the restoration, who worked closely with Wise on the 2001 version. Lots of great detail.

https://trekmovie.com/2022/04/03/interview-producer-david-fein-on-bringing-star-trek-the-motion-picture-the-directors-edition-to-4k/

And another extensive interview. Tomorrow will rule:

https://gizmodo.com/star-trek-the-motion-picture-4k-interview-david-c-fein-1848747926

Oh and looks like we're getting a crowdfunded Voyager documentary now. (Same team that did the DS9 one.)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jCeqPGDp6D4

Big Picard news.

which is good news. face it, this cast never got a movie they deserved, and really, this cast seems better suited to television. Good to give them a swan song on a medium that plays to their strengths.

For reference:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qGl8ypcjWeI

this cast never got a movie they deserved

I'll always ride for First Contact but correct that the movies flattened out the cast dynamics since you couldn't really rotate main character focus as before.

insurrection is all right

Okay, just watch the Motion Picture redo -- obv. if you don't like the story, pacing, etc. to start with this won't reconvince you or anything, but for me as a fan of it, it's a really lovely presentation for sure. The fixed color grading can't suddenly upgrade the still too bland uniform colors or anything but things do generally pop more, the new sound mix is excellent with some interesting extra touches, and while the new upgrade to the 2000 upgrades renders some of it perhaps a touch too crisp in comparison with the original elements, those new results are still something to behold, some really elaborate work created at points that's great to see. Plus, in one of those minor but good things to see (don't think they did this in 2000), we finally see the Enterprise actually turning around to face V'ger after doing the flyby. Hey, I'm nerdy that way. But really the fact that I knew it would be a treat was ultimately in the opening overture, where the restored 2000 spacescape was given a new, slower pace that suited Goldsmith's music and made everything feel just a touch richer. And in a good classy move, the end credits listed both the 2022 and the 2000 restoration credits, plus one last little touch right at the end. Loved it.

(Just watched, I should have initially said. Although yeah, just watch.)

love the Ned longpost, watching it soon

cant wait

I am not allowed to see whatever that video is that Ned posted above, because Paramount has geoblocked everything Star Trek in my region, which, as you can imagine, is really making me want to subscribe to their new channel whenever it shows up and not just steal their content.

I made a sorta but not really arbitrary decision a while back that I'm only springing for 4K upgrades of movies Douglas Trumbull worked on. And as TMP is probably my favorite Trek movie (yes, I'm that weirdo) this is great news to hear!

If you're a weirdo you're not alone. I perfectly enjoy 2, 4 and 6 from the original cast movie run, don't totally mind 3, and 5, well, that's its own thing, but all of them except, sorta, 5 are based around lots of action, battle and knotted plot and the like as opposed to a sense of curiosity, analysis, wonder and awe about what the universe might have; 4 at least comes close by not having any kind of starship shootout but it's very much a different vibe regardless, while 5 botches said sense of wonder hilariously, leaving the original as the one that, in its own clunky way granted, kinda shoots for the moon and scores on that front. Really am strongly considering going to one of the one-off theatrical showings of this new cut in late May; I saw it on original release when I was living here in the Bay Area in Mare Island/Vallejo and really loved it even then as a kid, so this'll close a circle in a strange way.

Anyway, these truths

I like how Paramount+ did market research and discovered that all of its subscribers are only there for Star Trek and instead of trying to diversify they were like "can we make enough Star Trek that there's one new episode every week forever?"

— Laurie Voss (@seldo) April 6, 2022

oh man I cannot *wait* for the Star Trek spinoff that spans the years when Starfleet goes to war with Marin and the Presidio neighborhoods organizations over zoning to build HQ and the Academy

— Burrito Justice (@burritojustice) April 6, 2022

Starfleets's ability to get that land is the least believable thing about ST (and I would watch the hell out of that show). I guess the eugenics wars must have had a major impact on real estate.