"I'm a sovereign human being, I stand under common law only" - Thread of Freemen

https://www.buzzfeednews.com/article/zoetillman/capitol-rioters-jailed-violating-orders

Article on how so many of these Jan. 6 knuckleheads manage to get house release or otherwise avoid jail only to immediately (and sometimes repeatedly) fuck up said leniency and end up in jail anyway.

the one from my city wasn’t just streaming conspiracy content — they caught him in his garage using his wife’s phone to watch the mypillow guy’s conference

lol

We lost Danny Rampling

It sounds like Danny Rampling will be turning up to vaccine centre soon with an expired crime number and a load legalese word salad with the way he’s getting worked up about his sovereignty pic.twitter.com/EELJDe4DpC

— Lister (@marclister3k) January 22, 2022

The more pills the antivaxxer necked in the ‘90s, the more liable they are to tell us to beware of vaccines because we have no idea what is in them.

lol

You have to think there’s some Darwinian lesson here.

Is it that hedonism isn’t a viable evolutionary strategy? Cause cats would beg to differ.

This is both crazy and also I suppose the logical outcome of what happens when your entire social circle is right wing nuts:

Some *big* red flags in the Stewart Rhodes' detention hearings.

1) The defense says Stewart can stay with his cousins Kyla & Ben pending trial.

2) Kyla & Ben have two homes on the property. They live in one and her parents live in the other. Rhodes would stay with her parents.

— JJ MacNab (@jjmacnab) February 18, 2022

He was totally gonna go on the lam.

That is apparently what the judge determined, he is staying put in jail.

https://seattle.craigslist.org/kit/cto/d/bremerton-1992-honda-civic-vx-eg/7447716307.html

...takes a while to get there, but hoo boy...

Having been born in Bremerton, I am glad this isn't me.

wow.

"As a man of faith, I am certain to prevail." was where I started laughing out loud.

lol that the founder of something called oathkeepers was all set to solemnly promise to abide by the terms of home detention, then skip town

Masochists, sadists and fans of schadenfreude can watch this self-proclaimed sovereign citizen who represented himself get 76 counts of guilty for driving his car into the Waukesha, Wisconsin Christmas parade last year:

Verdict is starting now:https://t.co/2tMufSnKMs

— JJ MacNab (@jjmacnab) October 26, 2022

MacNab does the math: that's 6 consecutive life sentences plus 859 years in prison.

JJ MacNab does v good work on this alternate reality.

So was this guy's defense just "it was an accident"?

Or that he has an unlimited right to travel, and he just traveled into the crowd?

To the extent that I followed it at all, I think he tried to use his sovereign citizen bullshit to blow up the trial. Which of course didn't work.

Like I saw the judge wasn't letting him bring up jury nullification in his closing arguments, but surely he doesn't think juries want to nullify vehicular homicide laws?

(I know saying "surely he doesn't think (x)" about sovereign citizens doesn't really apply)

Laws aren't necessary, society will adapt. People will organically stop gathering where cars run people over

we shall abandon all laws, and new directives shall be revealed by the free market of natural behavior, desire lines leading us to a new free land

I think a lot of these sovereign citizen sorts are so caught up in their insular pseudo-legal sophistry that they end up like Al Pacino in "Scene of a Woman." "Out of order?? I'll show YOU 'out of order!'

(Scene of a Woman was the seldom staged theatrical production.)

My client, the Honorable Darrell Brooks, should go right to fuckin' jail.

maybe he can start a sovereign bro's club in prison

two great flavours altogether at last, sovcits and german princelings:

THREAD I see that many of those who don't live in Germany, are not aware of the "Reichsbürger" (Imperial Citizens) far-right movement, as its members were arrested today for the alleged preparation of a coup. Let me start this thread on the details of this conspiracy theory 1/x

— Sergej Sumlenny (@sumlenny) December 7, 2022

^^^this guy doesn't seem to now abt sovcits, and in tweet 6 says "my bold guess is that this conspiracy theory is VERY German in the way how legalistic it is"

the involvement the ancient family of rotating henries is very german yes, the legalism seems increasingly universal 😖

i sometimes wonder what happened to that nurse that was "sued" by those people, the ones that claimed the pope owned all the hospitals

I hope she sent them a bunch of Monopoly money.

German feds when the new crop of bundeswehr special forces guys only want to restore the 2nd Reich and not the 3rd pic.twitter.com/FKV0zTW5l5

— ред ґрин альянс 🇺🇦🇨🇳 (@ItsBCJim) December 7, 2022

Look at that face.

https://www.thesun.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/2023/01/mobile-twitter-com-tomlandon-autor-791956547.jpg?w=620

https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/breaking-brit-conspiracy-theorist-54-29079964

fringed flag and throbbing vein!

(tbh he looks like china mieville who is many things but surely not a sovcit)

Austria again...

(thought it was Mieville too at first glance, wondered what he'd done now!)

Not in the Mirror article:

According to media reports he has also written a musical about the Austrian rock star Falco – known for his 1985 hit Rock Me Amadeus – who died in a car crash in the Dominican Republic in 1998. Mr Landon, who was living on the island at the time, claims to have found the body and that there was a cover-up about the true cause of death.

i blame salieri

BOOMING POST

I thought "Has Howie Mandel gone off the deep end?"

i know this (ilx) thread is just running on the spot but this (twitter) thread is full of meatily deranged stuff:

2. Derek believes the govt & statutes are illegitimate. He believes individuals have 2 personas, one of flesh & blood (the “live human”) & the other a separate fictitious identity. In his classes, he teaches ppl how to become “live humans” & escape their legal liabilities pic.twitter.com/6AjoGgs3yb

— Vaxatious Litigant 💉 (@ExposingNV) February 12, 2023

does the proponent believe any of his legal claims or is he simply a conman?

https://img.memegenerator.net/instances/59376719.jpg

lol this sent me straight down the "here's what the por que no los dos girl looks like today" rabbithole

first you con yourself, then the marks come flocking

kinda wondering when "have literally never won a case anywhere in the world based on this shit" starts to turn around, and where?

for now, even the absolute worst in the conservative legal movement in the US (which is hugely lawyered up and has placed judges in the system all the way up to SCOTUS) will surely be extremely and indeed lethally hostile, so it's not going to get political or institutional traction

(at least on the right lol: there's a kind of reactionary anarchist sea-lawyer energy here which you do encounter on the morbid-symptom pseudo-left also, but of course they also don't really have significant traction either yet) (the bigwig tycoons who fund some of the "transcends left and right" bogus chaotic mud-stirring are generally p careful to keep the best actual-real lawyers on-board) (elon tho… )

(this particular guy is australian) (they also pop up in UK courts)

and also those germans who tried some doomed stunt last year (reichsburgers)

similar notions on the move in belgium, france, italy, russia

lol of course: "elon musk's new terms of service for the starlink app have shades of 'sovereign citizen' about life on mars"

there is zero comprehension of jurisprudence or the de facto workings of legal systems in these fantasies, so any possible win a freeman might achieve would be coincidence and dumb luck, likely due to getting the right cranky low-level judge on the right day

which leads me to the conclusion that for the grifters making money or clout from selling this stuff, winning is not the point. not internally the point either, it would be terrible for reality to intrude in their metaphysical forts of solitude

the lack of significant cost or enforcement of repercussion of cost means that these are free hits so that "dumb luck" more becomes a case of "will win one eventually and then what"