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Good cast, but this looks like one of those hand-wavy Black Mirror "what if something that would never happen and no one would say yes to ... happened?" things.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xEQP4VVuyrY

Only Murders in the Building was really enjoyable (episode 7, in particular, was kind of a remarkable episode of television).

Some things didn't quite make sense – and not even having to do with the murder mystery, but more "why would he say that? why would she do that?" – as if the script / basic storytelling could have used a little more attention. But it also had some nice, creative touches. And I liked the idea of a friendship btw. people of very different ages. The cast was good, and I'm not particularly a huge Steve Martin or Martin Short fan.

Apparently Shirley MacLaine is going to be in S2? That's so awesome.

took me a while to recognizer her, but its Britt Lower from Man Seeking Woman, who I have a big crush on. Yeah that's some cast, though I'm really just watiting for Party Down.

Only Murders was great.

oh wow, mcclaine is a great choice
excited for that!

My wife has been watching What We Do in the Shadows, and I've seen good chunks of it – it definitely has funny stuff and good characters, I especially like the "Energy Vampire" guy (the episode where he meets a female counterpart was great). On the minus side, some of the jokes are kind of obvious/played out, and the faux-documentary format feels old as dust at this point (though I guess other "formats" have kept chugging along for decades, so why not). I see Paul Simms of NewsRadio fame is involved, which is a personal plus.

Anyone watched Archive81?

was thinking of checking it out this weekend

Legend of Vox Machina looks bad.

Anyone watched Archive81?

I listened to the podcast. Curious to see how it has been translated to television.

Archive81 won the coin toss between it and Station Eleven for what I watch next. Going to dig in over the next couple of days.

Station Eleven has some high points but I would not recommend it tbh.

Somebody Somewhere seems Actually Good after one episode

Forgive the thread spam, but I wanted to note that every show you loved that had a 2021 season is nominated in the ILX TV poll, with voting ending this weekend:

ILX's Best Television of 2021 Poll / VOTING AND CAMPAIGNING THREAD / Voting Ends After January 31, 2022

If you like this show and you'd like to see it have a good showing in the poll (running in February) all you need to do is submit a ballot including it and your other favorites (3 minimum, 25 maximum, ranked by your favorite to least favorite) to forksclovetofu at gmail. It'll take five minutes; get to it!

This blog post seems to suggest radio royalties are actually worse for songwriters than streaming (but i dunno)

Whoops, apologies (I gotta stop doing that)

Since I'm here – I will vote in yr poll, forks!

I'm gonna mount the Nokk and swim past all you haters

I did it again! omg

In my defense, I'm v bad at using computers

that part is becoming clear lol <3

I wuz keeping this tab open (to everyone's detriment)

Back (for real) to mention that I watched the beginnings of a bunch of recent comedy series pilots (on Hulu) last night... the experience def. did not leave me feeling like we're living in the "Golden Age of TV" :/

But then I also didn't feel guilty dipping back to 2014, to continue my rewatch of You're the Worst – one of my favorite shows of past decade (S1 is even better than I remember it... each episode is so well written & directed, they're almost like little movies)

IMO the "golden age" has been over for a while. I'd pick the success of Game of Thrones as the clearest turning point: a (initially) well made, lavish show that turned out to be intellectually hollow and not remotely worth re-watching.

I lost interest after the third season (or maybe halfway through) but the first two seasons of YTW are so good.

The best shows post-Golden Age (aside from The Expanse) have been comedies IMO. YTW, Brockmire, Atlanta, Catastrophe, Fleabag, etc..

yeah I meant to add that I don't think comedies really fit the Golden Age narrative all that well anyway (what were the major Golden Age/prestige comedies? all I can think of is Louie, which no)

That one season of Louie that ended with the Eszter Balint storyline was, I thought, one of the best seasons of a show I'd ever watched (but, yeah... I know, Louie).

I also agree that great comedies have always been hard to find.

South Side.

yes! South Side is so good!

It is really good and I love that it doesn't try to do too much, it is happy to be really really really excellent at doing the thing that it does, which, now that I think of it, maybe IS trying to do (and succeeding in doing) a lot.

Insecure was pretty good for a while (I guess that's a comedy?), though maybe a little less so toward the end...

Great to at least decent comedies from 2021 imo: Agua Donkeys, AP Bio, Awkwafina is Nora from Queens, Buffering, Chad, Curb Your Enthusiasm, Fisk, Flatbush Misdemeanors, Ghosts (UK), How to with John Wilson, I Think You Should Leave, It's Always Sunny, Joe Pera, Kim's Convenience, Motherland, Mythic Quest, PEN15, Reservation Dogs, Rick and Morty, South Side, Staged, Starstruck, Ted Lasso, Teh Other Two, This Time with Alan Partridge, What We Do in the Shadows, Work in Progress.... of course, what you consider to be a comedy may vary from me.

The Great was great too.

My personal feeling is it may not be the Golden Age of TV, but it could well be the Golden Age of TV title sequences (which, ironically, are easier than ever to SKIP through).

nothing beats peacemaker

agree

yes.

yellowjackets though is the first time in years where i've actively sought out the theme tune cause I wanted to listen to it on repeat.

the major Golden Age/prestige comedies?

that’s the era of 30 Rock / Community / Parks & Rec / The Office airing b2b weekly

in other news I liked the first ep of Gilded Age on HBOMax

wall to wall names in the cast, lots of broadway notables etc. anyway v up my alley

lol, u and my partner both.
i watched like two minutes and it was all about chandeliers and humidors, not for me

mustaches, bustles and hats: get into it, y’all!

I've enjoyed the 1.3 episodes of Peacemaker I've seen so far. Cena is so game, and the opening credits are ... I'm not even sure of the right way/word to encapsulate them.

Just finished Season 2 of Beforeigners and while I liked it a lot I don’t realky need a Season 3.

The S3 finale of What We Do in the Shadows has a great little reference to a favorite (and not often quoted) movie line, without calling attention to it

There's some good stuff in S3... the show's still not quite my vibe (a little too Office-y), but my wife loves it. Nandor is a great character

btw WWDITS (is on real tv and) has its own thread, if you wanna check out more discussion

eh thanks, that's all I got

The Woman In The House Across The Street From The Girl In The Window is a very very good satire of the domestic/suburban crime story.

I'm two episodes in, and I like the approach and some of the gags but I'm not sure about the use of a dead child in this kind of comedy. Or, to put it another way, the scenes of Bell grieving her child feel a bit too real, despite being surrounded by gags.

Could not get into that, seemed like a weird netherworld between occasional satire and just performing the genre

First few episodes play it a little more straight but the latter half of the season is more overtly satirical and a (little) lighter imo but honestly ya know, if it's not your thing, it's not your thing.

As the creative force behind the show is Michael Lehmann, who directed Heathers, I'm assuming the idea is to build a plot within certain generic confines (as Heathers did with the 80s high school comedy) and then just let it go crazy. Misgivings aside, I plan to keep watching.