discogs marketplace?

There is definitely no getting paypal fees back, not for a couple of years now. To keep that 45p I'd need to do a partial refund and they could if they wanted dispute that. The truoble with disputes now is that they count towards a percentage figure after which all disputes attract a large fee.

I just had someone email me querying the postage to Australia, for a CD I'm selling for £1.49. The whole thing with having to faff about filling in all the postage costs for different countries/weights etc means they know the fucking postage for the CD already, it literally says it next to the price. They also asked if I could sent the CD without the case. This would save them a massive £1 off the shipping because it would be under 100g. I guess I'd either have to have them pay full price then refund the £1, or adjust the weight and hope nobody else buys it before they do. For a £1.49 CD. Or they can just fuck off (yes that is the option I'm taking)

FWIW you can change the shipping charge on an order if they don't pay immediately.

I had a very similar query recently, although maybe they though the shipping price was too low because I have Economy as the default for Australia.

Re the drop shipping, I've had a very regular and totally trustworthy buyer over the years (dempster13) who always requests shipping to various third parties; to facilitate this, they actually change their PayPal delivery address to the third party in question. I guess my call on this one would be to review this buyer's feedback, both as buyer and seller?

I just had someone email me querying the postage to Australia, for a CD I'm selling for £1.49.

I recently started using the minimum order value option in settings to avoid getting in to small orders which waste time.

Sent £110.00 for a 5" by Quantic.

"The item could not be delivered and was returned to sender on 30.12.2021."

Seller doesn't answer mails.
yawn.

got fucked on postage to China today. I had it set up so up to 500g was in a separate category because usually that's 4 CDs and that will fit in a large letter. someone bought 5 CDs and one was in a digipak and it came to 475g. didn't fit in a large letter and I was out £4 on the postage :( I've changed it so CDs can only go up to 400g now which should hopefully fix that

Not Discogs related in particular but I'd like to see figures on the value of late 90s onwards 12" dance vinyl. Lots of 00s stuff has been down to £1 / $1 or less for a long time but it seems more and more of it is basically destined for landfill at this point. When the only people who would really want it are DJs, and of the few holdouts still playing vinyl even fewer will be interested in various unfashionable styles and eras, and when so much was chucked out there week to week by labels, it's not hard to see some of the reasons why.

that's an interesting take- in my experience, many late 90s-early-00s dance 12"s undergone reappraisal and risen in price, sometime quite high. lots of formerly worthless, not especially obscure or limited records have gone from $1 to $30 in the last five to ten years- just check some 00s uk tech house releases like this: https://www.discogs.com/release/110969-The-Mingers-Emancipation-Revisited

or check the comments on this one: "i used to give away copies" etc
https://www.discogs.com/release/96315-D-Ball-Slack

Will discogs keep leading vinyl prices up and up to the point where everyone just bows out? For most of the stuff I look at at least no one really ever lists anything for lower than what it’s sold for historically, so the 10 dollar album becomes a 12 dollar album that becomes a 15 dollar album that becomes a 25 dollar album etc etc. I mean I know many market forces are at play here but I can’t help but think that this a big one for the used market.

Will discogs keep leading vinyl prices up and up to the point where everyone just bows out? For most of the stuff I look at at least no one really ever lists anything for lower than what it’s sold for historically, so the 10 dollar album becomes a 12 dollar album that becomes a 15 dollar album that becomes a 25 dollar album etc etc. I mean I know many market forces are at play here but I can’t help but think that this a big one for the used market.

yeah it's really frustrating. a lot of the stuff on my wantlist is stuff that very few people actually want. but there generally aren't many copies of them out there. I'm not sure if the market is just weird right now but it sure as hell looks like a lot of dealers are listing things at "hail mary" prices not "actually trying to sell this" prices

Discogs really has made bargain finds less likely nowadays. Like any seller or store that's got its shit together is going to check Discogs and see what the market price is.

It goes both ways, the trouble is the ratio of supply to demand is laid bare ;-)

I'd say that overall the Discogs effect has driven prices way down on a far greater number of releases by quickly satisfying demand while making excess supply visible.

If there’s one thing I’ve learned about dance music over the years is that this years easily found unwanted cheeky bargain-bin banger can quite easily be next years in-demand, scarce, but overplayed £50 record.

…and vice versa I must add given enough time.

overall the Discogs effect has driven prices way down on a far greater number of releases

yeah, one thing influencing the narrative of "discogs makes all records expensive!! :(" is confirmation bias- people look at records that are in demand at the moment and rising in price, and ignore the many, many records that have fallen in price. i also think that many sellers don't bother to list $1-2 records online. much easier to sell them in store, at a fair, or whatever.

I've been offloading lots of CDs and am wondering if there's any point listing CDs that might sell for 99p if I'm lucky. by the time the fees are paid I'm walking to the post office for 60p. But then I don't want to just chuck them in a skip. At the moment my rule is if it won't sell for 50p it goes to a charity shop.

I keep seeing that Continuing with CDs thread pop up but I think I've come to the conclusion there is no point hanging onto my CDs any more, I never listen to them and they are all ripped to FLAC and I've even scanned the booklets in case I ever want to read them.

what about a hard drive crash? do you have offsite backup?

a lot of dealers are listing things at "hail mary" prices not "actually trying to sell this" prices

i think this is a big factor- discogs enables anyone to list their records, not just professional dealers. a seller who's got overhead and relying on income from sales has to keep inventory turning over. for anyone else who happens to have an in-demand record, why not list it at a crazy price, leave it up for months and see if anyone bites?

xp I have them backed up on a RAID array and burnt to Bluray so yes

ok it's not offsite. but if my flat burns down then the CDs would also burn. and I could just download them all off Soulseek if that happens

they have FLACs on SLSK? (just teasing, mostly)

I'm not one to talk, my offsite backup failed and I need to make a new one

xp yes they do! maybe not all 2000+ CDs tbf

have only listed 650 CDs so far though

sold a few for over £10 each in the 3 weeks I've been doing this so it's not a total waste of time. turns out CDs of 80s hardcore bands are in demand

have noticed the Discogs flag for "this is too expensive" is pretty shit and should probably be ignored. listed 2 CDs which got flagged as too expensive (they were £3.99 each) and they both sold within a few days of listing. am happy with that price because that's about what I paid for them and just want to be shot of them anyway

wait what? is that flag an app thing? I have never seen it.

oh wait it sounds like a seller flag when you list something? I have never sold, only bought.

yeah not when you actually list it - there is a suggested price when you list which is often wildly out, like obviously way too expensive, say £6 when there are 20 copies for sale for 99p. this bears no relation to the other flag, which is on your Inventory page which lists everything you have for sale - a little red triangle appears if they think the price is too high

so you can list something for less than they suggest which they then tell you is too expensive

The flag is on the 'inventory' page. It's not much use.

this shit sucks

https://www.discogs.com/sell/history/3011740

iirc this record was fairly available on their website for $19.99 up until like 2020

So, buy your nanobots now.

A common pattern. Yeah, I hate it. https://www.discogs.com/sell/history/10618983

yeah that shit makes me nervous, so many times I've seen something cool come out only to be like "well I've already bought 5 records this week so whatever I'll grab it later" only to find that "later" it's sold out and 3-5x the price on the secondary market. I wonder if this is all just gonna crash soon or if this is just the way things are until supply can meet demand. Luckily you do occasionally find sellers who actually want to move stuff - I grabbed Join Us for $30 and I think it's because I was lucky enough to spot it within like 15 minutes of it going up. the seller probably didn't notice how there were basically no other copies for sale and forgot to jack the price way up.

So, buy your nanobots now.

for a while if you bought any vinyl on their website they'd throw in a copy of Nanobots for free, I guess they pressed way too many. great deal cuz it's one of my favorites of theirs

Had to file my first Seller Not Responding report today. I hadn't heard from them for 6 days after I paid, so I hit them up.

Me: Hi there, it's been a few days since my order. Any idea when you'll be able to ship?

Seller: Yes it took me a few days to find it, it’ll go out tomorrow

Me: Sweet! Thanks.

Seller (several hours later): Yes it took me a few days to find it, it’ll go out tomorrow

That was over a week ago and complete radio silence since then, despite a couple inquiries from me. Looked yesterday and the record is still listed as "For Sale" in their shop.

Hmm, if the "order" is still current, it couldn't be in their "for sale" section, unless they had two copies. Or listed it twice (which I'm sure happens)

They are a haphazard flake, though, clearly.

The order is marked payment received, but the copy they still have listed for sale has the same condition and comments about the condition as the one I'm trying to purchase. I'm pretty sure they only had one - it's an old record and a relatively small shop.

Someone who speaks tech better than me can probably explain this but Discogs order pages have this weird quirk where if you leave the order page open after sending the message, and then for whatever reason that page is refreshed, it automatically resends your message. It's deeply annoying and has cause me to have to write quickly to explain why I just sent the same message twice.

Ah, that might explain the duplicate message. Thanks

Yeah part of the game as a buyer these days is nabbing albums sellers mindlessly price to match "median", even though the most recent sales are literally the "highest" figure due to lack of supply being a recent development. The best sellers are the ones that know this but are pricing fairly regardless.

xps

That was over a week ago and complete radio silence since then, despite a couple inquiries from me. Looked yesterday and the record is still listed as "For Sale" in their shop.

― peace, man, Wednesday, February 2, 2022 9:55 AM (one week ago) bookmarkflaglink

Despite the absolute flakiness, the record arrived by Friday and was an accurately graded Very Good Plus, so I left positive feedback. ͡¯\(°_o)/¯

I want a record and the only copy I can find in the EU (I live in the UK) is two euros, and it'll cost ten more euros in postage and I'm fine with that, but I feel guilty getting someone to mail me a 2 euro record, but I don't want anything else they have and I don't want to risk getting fucked by import taxes. Am I being dumb?

I just emailed a guy in Spain about eight days after placing an order for a Loop 3CD set, and got no response to my actual message, but the day after I emailed him I finally got a ship notice. Shit like that always makes me wonder if the seller is just hoping the buyer won't notice that their item never turned up.

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I think you should just get it. Sellers have the option to impose price minimums per order, so I'd assume they're fine with it if they haven't imposed one.

when i was doing a lot of ebay selling in the past, there was one instance of me just outright forgetting to mark the item shipped. of course, the buyer reached out after a few days to inquire and i immediately went and adjusted it after getting their message. i'm sure it looked it sus on their end, but it was delivered a day or two later, so no big deal. it does happen.

something that's happened to me more than once as a buyer on discogs in the past few years is buying something, getting the usual notices (including a "shipped" notice!) and then having the seller reach out a few days later saying they can't locate the item. it's only happened a couple times and i've gotten a full refund in both cases, but it was just odd. doesn't me receiving a "shipped" notice mean that they paid the postage??!!?

Shipped could just mean that they've printed the postage out. That's become more common these days in all sorts of online ordering

Discogs/Reverb/Etsy: Your item has shipped!
Me: Oh joy!
*checks tracking*
USPS: Label Created - USPS is currently awaiting item.

it just means they bought the shipping label then couldn't find your high rise DVD when it came time to pack it up, that's happened to me as a seller.