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Hi there, what's the best method of pasting an image on a thread these days?

Maresn3st, Monday, 17 January 2022 23:59 (two years ago) link

Still [ img ] tags. You have to put the address of an image file in between the tags, not a web page, and if you link to an image on a major social media platform, it won’t display for many people.

dark end of the st. maud (sic), Tuesday, 18 January 2022 01:01 (two years ago) link

an integrated image thingie would be amazing but imgur works pretty well. as others have said, the ios “post to imgur” shortcut makes this a very slick process.

Tracer Hand, Tuesday, 18 January 2022 09:01 (two years ago) link

two months pass...

i would like to thank the ilx code cru for the hidden text feature without which the fun Semantle thread would not be possible

sarahell, Tuesday, 22 March 2022 16:55 (two years ago) link

two months pass...

last night it kept asking me to login and I've had 5 of so posts that didn't post, just returned a blank page. something seems wrong, but it also feels like it'd be impossible to debug.

koogs, Monday, 13 June 2022 07:10 (one year ago) link

happens to me too sometimes (maybe once a week?)

TWELVE Michelob stars?!? (seandalai), Monday, 13 June 2022 23:02 (one year ago) link

one year passes...

stet/keith or whoever is in charge of code these days,

*third guy to get handed the mic at the Q&A*

hello, a comment and a question.

first of all, as always, thank you so much, and with every year that passes i appreciate more and more what a special place ilx is and how much of that is related the beautiful simplicity of how it works. i don't know anything about any of that but i feel the benefits of your work all the same. thank you!

the question: as you're probably already aware, chatgpt is starting to crawl the internet:

https://arstechnica.com/information-technology/2023/08/openai-details-how-to-keep-chatgpt-from-gobbling-up-website-data/

Without announcement, OpenAI recently added details about its web crawler, GPTBot, to its online documentation site. GPTBot is the name of the user agent that the company uses to retrieve webpages to train the AI models behind ChatGPT, such as GPT-4. Earlier this week, some sites quickly announced their intention to block GPTBot's access to their content.

In the new documentation, OpenAI says that webpages crawled with GPTBot "may potentially be used to improve future models," and that allowing GPTBot to access your site "can help AI models become more accurate and improve their general capabilities and safety."

i was wondering if ilx will move to block GPTBot as well. for what it's worth, i register as a hard "please block GPTBot" vote

z_tbd, Saturday, 12 August 2023 17:57 (eight months ago) link

...because god, it's going to be creepy if chatgpt users can really ask it to compose stuff in the voice of a particular poster

z_tbd, Saturday, 12 August 2023 18:01 (eight months ago) link

well i already do that all the time so

Tracer Hand, Saturday, 12 August 2023 19:09 (eight months ago) link

After I'd been posting to ilx for about 13 years my voice changed.

more difficult than I look (Aimless), Saturday, 12 August 2023 19:15 (eight months ago) link

Won’t be long before there’s going to be some kind of Night of the Living Dead of Fake Tuomases, Fake James Redds, Fake Tracer Hands etc.

No Zing Compares 2 HOOS (James Redd and the Blecchs), Saturday, 12 August 2023 19:28 (eight months ago) link

Night of the Living Redd

No Zing Compares 2 HOOS (James Redd and the Blecchs), Saturday, 12 August 2023 19:30 (eight months ago) link

fake luna

pplains, Saturday, 12 August 2023 20:40 (eight months ago) link

Lol

No Zing Compares 2 HOOS (James Redd and the Blecchs), Saturday, 12 August 2023 21:11 (eight months ago) link

Impersonate another Chatbot!

No Zing Compares 2 HOOS (James Redd and the Blecchs), Saturday, 12 August 2023 21:12 (eight months ago) link

ILX is already in ChatGPT - there was a site which showed you which percentage of the training data you were, and we were high among the also-rans.

Block does seem like a good idea for all our vital future posts tho

stet, Sunday, 13 August 2023 10:52 (eight months ago) link

excited to encounter the deepest of our lore out in the wild

mark s, Sunday, 13 August 2023 11:12 (eight months ago) link

ILX had a number of prolific posters who contributed to its active community. Some of the notable and influential posters over the years included individuals like Sterling Clover, Andy K, Nick Sylvester, and Mark Sinker. These posters were known for their extensive contributions, insightful discussions, and sometimes controversial opinions, which helped shape the character of ILX as a unique online forum for music and various other topics. However, keep in mind that individual participation can change over time, and my information might not be up to date with the latest developments on ILX.

the new drip king (DJP), Sunday, 13 August 2023 15:47 (eight months ago) link

no, that pretty much covers it up til now!

z_tbd, Sunday, 13 August 2023 16:12 (eight months ago) link

Your mileage may vary.

No Zing Compares 2 HOOS (James Redd and the Blecchs), Sunday, 13 August 2023 16:40 (eight months ago) link

ChatGPT, tell me all you know about the chickenbear.

more difficult than I look (Aimless), Sunday, 13 August 2023 16:48 (eight months ago) link

chatGPT, please read all my previous posts and suggest new posts i could make that would be an improvement

z_tbd, Sunday, 13 August 2023 16:59 (eight months ago) link

...but do it in the style of the chickenbear

z_tbd, Sunday, 13 August 2023 17:00 (eight months ago) link

gaz coombes

Grandall Flange (wins), Sunday, 13 August 2023 17:01 (eight months ago) link

Bosko Balaban

more difficult than I look (Aimless), Sunday, 13 August 2023 17:18 (eight months ago) link

Write about grocery groin to the tune of Ernie K Doe's "Mother in Law"

earosmith (Neanderthal), Monday, 14 August 2023 05:09 (eight months ago) link

This isn't so much a question as it is an expression of puzzlement but...I just posted via Zing a short while ago and the DN displayed on my post is an older DN that is not the DN I'm currently using. Should that be happening? And might the fact of it happening have anything to do with the fact that my iPhone is old as shit (it's a 6)? I guess those last two actually were questions.

Prop Dramedy (Old Lunch), Tuesday, 15 August 2023 00:52 (eight months ago) link

It shouldn't be happening – there's a weird situation in the code where it can keep two copies of a user around. You end up with two different sets of bookmarks and sometimes two DNs etc. I've never been able to really track the cause of it down, it's (probably) not your fault tho

stet, Tuesday, 15 August 2023 10:51 (eight months ago) link

two months pass...

I’ve just got my first iPhone and the Bookmark Post links JavaScript does not work and instead go to a form to submit instead. Is that expected?

Chewshabadoo, Sunday, 15 October 2023 19:56 (six months ago) link

download Zing Touch from the app store!

Tracer Hand, Sunday, 15 October 2023 19:56 (six months ago) link

Can’t view it in my theme though :D

Speaking of which I am seeing a load of rendering bugs on the iPhone I need to fix.

Chewshabadoo, Sunday, 15 October 2023 20:59 (six months ago) link

Is that expected?
Yes there's some unreliability with iOS Safari that means it falls back to the non-JS version. Although that was (jesus) 10 years ago now so I should check that's still the case

stet, Thursday, 19 October 2023 10:33 (six months ago) link

Feel free to send me updates to the stylesheet!

stet, Thursday, 19 October 2023 10:33 (six months ago) link

One day! Been meaning to do it for a couple of years for general bugs.

Any idea on the bookmark bug though?

Chewshabadoo, Thursday, 19 October 2023 17:27 (six months ago) link

not a bug - deliberate behaviour: there's a non-Javascript flow, which mobile devices use because they were buggy back in the day. You can see it on desktop if you disable JS in site settings

stet, Thursday, 19 October 2023 17:56 (six months ago) link

It’s always worked on Android browsers though 🤷

Chewshabadoo, Thursday, 19 October 2023 22:15 (six months ago) link

Yeah, I have a vague recollection of just stopping it doing the Javascript thing on mobile at all; however, that would've been just after the first iPhone launched, so when you say it's always worked on Android, well, it's kind of always not worked on Android, as when I wrote that bit of code, Android didn't exist, so it seems whatever mechanism I used to filter it out didn't work once Android appeared.

Keith, Thursday, 19 October 2023 22:31 (six months ago) link

FWIW, I was definitely using Android to read ilx every day for like two years before Android officially existed and it worked fine so thanks!

fajita seas, Friday, 20 October 2023 02:44 (five months ago) link

I’m happy to take a look and suggest code to get the experience on iPhone up to par :)

Chewshabadoo, Friday, 20 October 2023 07:21 (five months ago) link

We need an “ILX is better in the app” popup apparently they’re all the rage

stet, Friday, 20 October 2023 11:09 (five months ago) link

Ah yes, sorry, I had forgotten about the shareholder value :)

Chewshabadoo, Sunday, 22 October 2023 09:40 (five months ago) link


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