University Challenge (also featuring Only Connect and other BBC quiz shows)

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Tbf his teammate has already been on covering for him so ??

Ár an broc a mhic (darraghmac), Monday, 17 January 2022 23:27 (two years ago) link

so nice to be so confident that you can throw away so many 5 points like you just don't care. Is that like a record, start the game getting docked 5 points and thinking it's a great habit. So sticking with it throughout the game.
Meanwhile other team seems to be getting enough points together that they may have had a few to spare. But like if they didn't want them in the first place what can you do. Come back for another couple of chances

Stevolende, Tuesday, 18 January 2022 00:01 (two years ago) link

It's really weird because the other two players he blatantly ignores seem to be much stronger players than the only one he listens to. Zeng is crazy at geography.

justfanoe (Greg Fanoe), Tuesday, 18 January 2022 00:52 (two years ago) link

They have earpieces because of Covid so they can hear what their team mates are saying even if they aren't looking at them.

Why yes I am defending this behaviour because I got it full pelt on social media as well as the person most conferred with. In my case it's because I need answers dragged out of me because I've got zero confidencs.

ailsa, Tuesday, 18 January 2022 04:57 (two years ago) link

Zeng was quite uncanny wasn't he.
I was most impressed.

Stevolende, Tuesday, 18 January 2022 07:27 (two years ago) link

He is so good. I think they were a bit lucky that there were so many geography questions (as Paxo said) but they are a very good team.
If the teams don't come across fantastically in their second or third appearance, then it's the fault of the production team and not the team themselves. These are not TV people. All it takes is one floor manager to say "maybe turn your head the other direction now and then" or something. Or say to both team captains "be sure to look at all your team members from time to time, it comes over a lot better on television". He's not the only team captain who has looked bad for this, so it's possible it's a problem with the setup rather than the people.

trishyb, Tuesday, 18 January 2022 09:35 (two years ago) link

That said, some of the memes about it were pretty funny.

trishyb, Tuesday, 18 January 2022 09:37 (two years ago) link

I think I missed Mays faux pas I was talking about the other lot last night. Rachid seemed to have the 5 point reduction several times or was it other team mates.
Hate the going blank bit from long name beginning with an S cos i could very easily see that happening to me, Thinking I had the answer on teh tip of my tongue so buzzing then finding it disappeared. Seen that happen before. but Rachid seemed to be over confident on his guessing what the question was so what the answer would be. Did think that deduction thing happened more than i'd seen it before. Could see the tension of this being a quarter final or whatever and how somebody might respond to adrenalin release etc

Stevolende, Tuesday, 18 January 2022 09:44 (two years ago) link

i missed all this because i wasn't really watching, just listening (parotid, some art questions). there was a weirdly specific music round, oh, TMBG

did hear a classic '-5 for interruption' followed by it being passed over with no more actual question. how is that interrupting?

koogs, Tuesday, 18 January 2022 10:05 (two years ago) link

These are not TV people. All it takes is one floor manager to say "maybe turn your head the other direction now and then" or something. Or say to both team captains "be sure to look at all your team members from time to time, it comes over a lot better on television".

It wasn't UC, but the quiz/team based I was on, we didn't get any 'direction' and I'm assuming if one player was "making good telly" they'd keep on with it.

I only thought about it recently, after the Reading guy kept jumping in early and losing five points - eventually he calmed down and they did win. I did something similar, mainly because one team-mate would absolutely buzz pronto (and be right, the git) so if you didn't buzz within half a second you would not be on the show, effectively. (So, I end up buzzing in the intros round for Mud "Oh Boy" after about .2 seconds..)

Mark G, Tuesday, 18 January 2022 11:16 (two years ago) link

I do find it disconcerting, troubling, whatever, seeing a UC captain only conferring with one colleague. It's happened before, recently, and was bad last night, and I saw the Twitter attacks too.

But I think Trish and Ailsa's comments are probably wise - the situation may not actually be as bad as it looks. Zeng, for instance, DID get every relevant question, so it's not like he was excluded in practice. I think it's possible that the team actually have an arrangement that they're happy with, even though it looks bad to us. They won by about 200 points anyway, didn't they?!

the pinefox, Tuesday, 18 January 2022 12:09 (two years ago) link

The only time I thought he could've reined it in was when he said "there's no three-word psi" or whatever his exact words were. I'd have bashed the perspex into his "I think you'll find" forehead, if it were me. But I bet he was sorry afterwards.

I've only ever been on one thing, and we were directed to within an inch of our lives so as not to waste time, because they were making three shows that day and they could NOT be arsed dealing with mistakes. Stand exactly here. When the host says this, you say this. When this happens, you step to the left. Let me see you do it so I know you're not going to make a mess of it. etc. Mind you, that was a game rather than a quiz, so you didn't have to be bright to get on it.

trishyb, Tuesday, 18 January 2022 12:50 (two years ago) link

wonder if nerves gave Mays blinkers to his right or something. If i wanted to conjecture wildly I could see soemthing like a nervous spasm giving him a stiff neck or just having more of a bond with the guy to his left. THink I have that layout right anyway.
But yeah difficult to say what is actually going on in the guy's head or whatever.
& not seeing outside of the camera frame and so on.
They did leave with marks to spare anyway.

Stevolende, Tuesday, 18 January 2022 13:01 (two years ago) link

I guess if you got onto a team because you had a friend involved or started hanging out at practise games cos your mate did it would be something to watch out for in terms of audience gaze.
Not that people are training for best look or anything.
Like no stylists involved etc.

Stevolende, Tuesday, 18 January 2022 17:25 (two years ago) link

Love to log on after getting a terrific score only to see that my favourite people are being insulted for *checks notes* conferring on bonuses they know more about #UniversityChallenge https://t.co/7hAXV3jVa6

— Fatima (@reaffirmsfaith) January 18, 2022

reggae mike love (polyphonic), Tuesday, 18 January 2022 18:50 (two years ago) link

They walked away with points to spare anyway. Think that's been noted.
Was just thinking about what contributes to not a good look or whatever its being looked at as.
& a lot of people will have habitual movements that look different on camera because accentuated than they are aware of.
She was pretty dynamic too.

Stevolende, Tuesday, 18 January 2022 18:58 (two years ago) link

When I was on Only Connect I got a *lot* of shit about how much Dave was conferring with me rather than his wife on the other side of him from me. Him and Lindsay need a lot less verbal communication to know when to talk, and I need to focus and concentrate (and was fecking terrified!) and both of them know that, but to outsiders me and him were having private wee chats to the exclusion of his wife who would surely rumble our affair when she clocked how obvious it looked on telly. Absolute bollocks, but really hurtful to everyone, based on how things look in a freakily unnatural environment

ailsa, Tuesday, 18 January 2022 19:51 (two years ago) link

Christ, really? I know you mentioned something about it before but thought it was jokes.
Would hate to be on TV.

kinder, Tuesday, 18 January 2022 20:57 (two years ago) link

Sayin it again, so glad no social media back in 1975. Being in school was bad enough, but hey I discovered I didn't care what they thought.

Mark G, Tuesday, 18 January 2022 21:00 (two years ago) link

Yes, was just thinking the same as Mark G: It's bizarre that performance on UC is now not merely a matter of what score you get, but how you're judged by a load of strangers who see you in an artificial environment for half an hour.

the pinefox, Wednesday, 19 January 2022 13:15 (two years ago) link

As is any tv that isnt acting, really?

Ár an broc a mhic (darraghmac), Wednesday, 19 January 2022 14:00 (two years ago) link

Once Fatima tweeted I accept her take but otherwise there's a lot of reaching the last couple days

Khafre's clown (Noodle Vague), Wednesday, 19 January 2022 14:20 (two years ago) link

They (the pile-on hordes) did it last week to the Birmingham captain and I'm sure will do it again to others. And I will roundly tell them all to fuck off. Last week I was blocked for suggesting to someone that replying to the actual opinion of the supposedly-slighted team mate in order to tell her that she was wrong and her captain was ignoring her was exactly what she was accusing the captain of to start with.

ailsa, Wednesday, 19 January 2022 15:49 (two years ago) link

A couple years ago, two UC contestants got to make one of those "go to places in the UK and point at things" type documentaries. But, they had no onscreen presence, really. Or, the subject(s) were somewhat dull.

Mark G, Wednesday, 19 January 2022 16:13 (two years ago) link

HI, I'M ERIC MONKMAN

bobby seagull was on the christmas lectures and is slightly better (does teaching, which i guess means he has some people skills)

koogs, Wednesday, 19 January 2022 17:25 (two years ago) link

That was very much an attempt to create a thing out of assuming Twitter chat about contestants would translate into anyone giving a shit about them outside of University Challenge. That it didn't really work should be no surprise to anyone.

ailsa, Wednesday, 19 January 2022 17:49 (two years ago) link

Though I did really like Answer Trap, which had Bobby as one of the brains, along with Frank Paul who was on a team that won Only Connect back in the day.

ailsa, Wednesday, 19 January 2022 17:50 (two years ago) link

purple patch on UC last night with napthalene, proscenium, and 9 i think it was, a random bag of things in quick succession. and that was obv kandinsky and not miro although i'd be hard pressed to be able to explain how i can tell the difference.

koogs, Tuesday, 25 January 2022 12:26 (two years ago) link

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i cannot help if you made yourself not funny (forksclovetofu), Wednesday, 26 January 2022 20:56 (two years ago) link

Elder Scrolls questions made my night

Reader, I buried him (Noodle Vague), Monday, 31 January 2022 20:44 (two years ago) link

Norwegian dude nailed those

Critique of the Goth Programme (Neil S), Tuesday, 1 February 2022 11:13 (two years ago) link

Paxman shrivelling up and turning into a corncob while asking those qs was p funny too

Critique of the Goth Programme (Neil S), Tuesday, 1 February 2022 11:14 (two years ago) link

The Edinburgh team are very good, but they need to learn to chill out just a little bit or they are going to be screaming at each other by the end of the first semi-final.

trishyb, Tuesday, 1 February 2022 11:19 (two years ago) link

Kevin and I kept scores last night, which we've never done before, and I won by 11 points to 7. We didn't count any answers which the TV teams gave before us, so I couldn't claim a point for Kraftwerk.

mike t-diva, Tuesday, 1 February 2022 11:59 (two years ago) link

Paxo didn't arf give Trinity Cambridge a good kicking at the end of the show, dinnee?

I mean, often it's a "well you never got going" or a "bad luck" or whatever, but I've not heard a "you'd better buck your ideas up or you're going OUT" so much..

Mark G, Tuesday, 1 February 2022 15:13 (two years ago) link

jesus just watching back now and these lads are sharp as tacks

Ár an broc a mhic (darraghmac), Thursday, 3 February 2022 21:49 (two years ago) link

This fella that presents Mastermind is terrible

Reader, I buried him (Noodle Vague), Monday, 7 February 2022 20:28 (two years ago) link

Unless the show has an audience of toddlers I was previously unaware of

Reader, I buried him (Noodle Vague), Monday, 7 February 2022 20:28 (two years ago) link

And ffs I know it's a terrible show and you have to pad it but I dgaf about hearing how the winner feels

Reader, I buried him (Noodle Vague), Monday, 7 February 2022 20:30 (two years ago) link

I wondered if they had put that bit in to bring the show up to 30 minutes of quizzing with a commercial break. If you watch the show on BBC America or on Challenge, maybe that bit's not in it?

trishyb, Monday, 7 February 2022 20:32 (two years ago) link

I think you're probably right

Like the 10 minutes of shit about cameramen at the end of Attenborough shows

Reader, I buried him (Noodle Vague), Monday, 7 February 2022 20:33 (two years ago) link

Yeah, Humphrys was so shit that everyone has suddenly decided that Myrie is the reincarnation of Magnus Magnusson, but he's basically shit as well.

ailsa, Monday, 7 February 2022 20:34 (two years ago) link

Was about to say Beard looks like an alt right motherfucker then he says he did an MA in War, assumption proved

Reader, I buried him (Noodle Vague), Monday, 7 February 2022 20:35 (two years ago) link

When you're shouting DE LA SOUL at the tv and some buffoon says Beastie Boys

Reader, I buried him (Noodle Vague), Monday, 7 February 2022 20:47 (two years ago) link

If I was Jeremy Paxman I would simply buy glasses that fit

Reader, I buried him (Noodle Vague), Monday, 7 February 2022 20:58 (two years ago) link

I won 15-4 tonight; obviously the Funky Drummer round was kind.

mike t-diva, Monday, 7 February 2022 22:54 (two years ago) link

It was, a bit

Mark G, Monday, 7 February 2022 23:28 (two years ago) link

Why or how is Clive Myrie bad?

the pinefox, Tuesday, 8 February 2022 10:11 (two years ago) link

Got 21 this week.

Panama, Panorama, pangolin, Venice, invisibility, Rwanda, Sigourney Weaver, shadows, meiosis, Urban, patina, Tennessine, Nina Simone, Sly Stone, BB King, Sylvia Plath, Caerphilly, boron, bowler hat, in vitro, New York Dolls .

I made the same mistake as Imperial in the description of the poet which mentioned the librarian.

Grandpont Genie, Tuesday, 15 February 2022 20:40 (two years ago) link


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