Post a controversial music opinion

Not arguing that he's a poet on Cohen's level tbc xp

Frank Black's best album, solo or Pixie-lated, is the '93 eponymous one. Fact.

Ohhh I thought you were taking the piss xp

I don't agree with Alfred but that first solo record is really good.

But I also have about equal tolerance for all Pixies records

well, there's yer problem right there! yer listenin` to crap records, son!

top five worst pixies songs?

i revisited doolittle for the first time in years recently and it's still one of my favorite rock records ever

to get back to controversial opinions, pixies are wild, messy, and interesting, but that never really resulted in any albums that i really like to listen to front-to-back

doolittle is the closest but the second side is still a big step down from the first - "hey", "no. 13 baby" and "gouge away" are all fanastic but "mr. grieves", "crackity jones" and "there goes my gun" are all only fine and "la la love you" and "silver" (sorry kim but it's pretty far from your best) really shouldn't have made the album at all.

like i'm sure that's all part of the appeal for a lot of people but not for me

I could have written the exact same thing about Doolittle, except I'd also put "Crackity Jones" on the discard pile. Haven't heard Bossanova, and the other two records have some great stuff and some that's forgettable.

My unpopular opinion is that "Here Comes Your Man' is the worst song on Doolittle, possibly in the Pixies' catalog. "La la Love You" and "Silver" are good. Frank Black's first solo album is really good.

side a of doolittle is so stacked it's insane

Otm

I love "Silver," but I'm a Kim freak. It sounds so lonely and desolate, but it drags so much at the end of the album or in the context of Doolittle at all. If it had been released as a b-side it would be seen as a hidden gem.

if there’s no “mr grieves” on doolittle then there’s no tv on the radio cover, and that would be a shame

also the album would need a new name

keeping in mind his oft professed love of Trembling Blue Stars, some of Austin's recent posts itt are kind of amusing. I'm reminded of a Joe Cornish interview from years ago where he was saying he doesn't like any rock music except the Bluetones.

don't see what's controversial about liking r&b more than rock anyhow.

I'll listen to The Field Mice/Northern Picture Library/Trembling Blue Stars over The Pixies/The Breeders/Frank Black.

Mr Grieves and Crackity Jones are good

Frank Black's 2nd solo album is better than the 1st one

It astonishes me that a band as dull as the goddamn Pixies can still provoke this kind of discussion.

My controversial opinion of the morning: King Crimson's 1972-74 lineup started great and diminished as members left; Red (the album) is a letdown after the heights scaled on Larks' Tongues in Aspic and especially Starless and Bible Black, and "Red" the song is...just okay, not some towering riff-masterpiece as many claim.

Do you think that they got weaker because Muir and Cross left? I think Red benefits from the horn and woodwind players they brought in. Larks is a good album but it has more in common than usually acknowledged with the looseness of Islands.

Few albums coast on their closing track like Red do

*does

Yeah, KC were definitely way better after Muir & Cross left. Cross's violin lines on LTiA and S&BB are just weedy and Muir's percussive freakouts add little.

I'd take "Fallen Angel" over "The Night Watch", and "One More Red Nightmare" over "The Great Deceiver", but not by much.

Yeah, KC were definitely way better after Muir & Cross left. Cross's violin lines on LTiA and S&BB are just weedy and Muir's percussive freakouts add little.

Completely disagree with this. I definitely hear the connective threads between Islands and Larks, though. All the albums between Court and Larks (yes, even Earthbound now that it's been expanded) are well worth hearing and stand up well.

Just one?

the foo fighters really reached a new level of musicality in the 2010s

doolittle is the closest but the second side is still a big step down from the first - "hey", "no. 13 baby" and "gouge away" are all fanastic but "mr. grieves", "crackity jones" and "there goes my gun" are all only fine and "la la love you" and "silver" (sorry kim but it's pretty far from your best) really shouldn't have made the album at all

Otm….this is where Pixies are QUIRKY rather than engaging ly offbeat

Red probably my favourite KC album.

jeez this went from "post a controp" to "discuss shitty inexplicably canonized music" real fast.

leo kottke is a better guitarist than robert fripp.

Lol, praising the guitar chops of Leo Kottke is truly where controversy resides.

just trying to get things back on track.

"Crackity Jones" might be my favorite pixies track, though the version I prefer by far is the one off the "Death to the Pixies" live disc:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1fUTzBbF69k

So much energy in a 1:35 track!

trying to work out whether austin is really good or really bad at this thread

also amazing live versions of Rock Music, Broken Face and Something Against You from that same live album, far superior to the studio versions in my controversial music opinion

just trying to get things back on track.

OK but unperson's KC opinion actually was controversial, which is why discussion resulted. "Leo Kottke > Robert Fripp" is just a pointless apples and oranges. They're both highly accomplished and well-respected guitarists who do entirely different things.

trying to work out whether austin is really good or really bad at this thread

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sund4r i counter that king crimson's discography is pointless. now what?

it seems completely obvious that side b of doolittle (except hey and gouge away) is markedly inferior, the controp would be that side b is in the same ballpark of quality yeah

side b is my favorite part of doolittle

side b has "no. 13 baby" ffs

anyway i'll stop posting completely uncontroversial opinions

also austin if you post controversial opinions about shitty canonized music you get discussion about shitty canonized music

"No. 13 Baby" > "Hey"

Austin, Leo Kottke vs. Eddie Hazel?

Applause to Austin for leveling up his shitposting game in the past 30 minutes, and also for saying the things I was struggling to articulate. /a single tear

Lol, praising the guitar chops of Leo Kottke is truly where controversy resides.

― The sensual shock (Sund4r), Tuesday, January 18, 2022 11:10 AM (twenty-four minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink

leo kottke's biggest flaw is he's too good of a guitar player tbh

xp

*”their” sorry. I really need to completely nip assuming genders in the bud. And that’s no shitpost!

Austin, Leo Kottke vs. Eddie Hazel?

― Halfway there but for you, Tuesday, January 18, 2022 11:24 AM (thirteen minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink

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Is ILM finally dividing into proggist vs punkist sects? Has this division always been here and I missed it?