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the entire issue w that article was v good

johnny crunch, Monday, 17 January 2022 02:33 (two years ago) link

stuff of nightmares tho right?

poster of sparks (rogermexico.), Tuesday, 18 January 2022 03:46 (two years ago) link

harking back to: “Rice has always seemed like filler to me,”... said the person who pretends to know something about eating food. ffs, ofc "rice is a filler". It fills the stomachs of people who were hungry and then ate some food.

more difficult than I look (Aimless), Tuesday, 18 January 2022 04:33 (two years ago) link

hilton al's weerasethakul profile was fuckin' great

i cannot help if you made yourself not funny (forksclovetofu), Tuesday, 18 January 2022 06:15 (two years ago) link

two months pass...

Infuriating article, especially since I know some people who were directly involved in an incident described toward the article's end.

https://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2022/04/04/mackenzie-fierceton-rhodes-scholarship-university-of-pennsylvania

we need outrage! we need dicks!! (the table is the table), Monday, 28 March 2022 21:11 (two years ago) link

Just came here to see if anyone else had read this (not that I have anything sensible to say about it).

toby, Tuesday, 29 March 2022 06:00 (two years ago) link

Let's just say that I know two of the people who were witness to the older student having a seizure then later dying because he couldn't get care quick enough— they were in the classroom when he started seizing.

One of them told me yesterday that she is quitting their job at Penn because of revelations made in the article, and I don't blame them,.

we need outrage! we need dicks!! (the table is the table), Tuesday, 29 March 2022 14:42 (two years ago) link

Infuriating because of what it reveals or because it is wrong?

Tsar Bombadil (James Morrison), Thursday, 31 March 2022 04:18 (two years ago) link

Infuriating because of what it reveals. They basically ruined the reputation of this young woman because her life didn't fit into their preconceived notions of what a foster child or first gen student looks like or acts like, and then they further ruined when she helped another woman seek justice against the school's malfeasance. I live in west Philly so I already have plenty of reasons to despise UPenn, and this story just gave me more.

we need outrage! we need dicks!! (the table is the table), Thursday, 31 March 2022 10:57 (two years ago) link

God, what a terrible story. It's so insane that the whole institution would buy into the idea that she had concocted all of this — and then endured living as a foster child for several years, having no financial support, being cut off from everyone, with no obvious benefit from any of it. OK, she got in as a low-income student, but clearly she was a good enough student to get into Ivy League schools regardless, and her life would have been much easier with a supportive family if that's what she actually had. Basically, all of her actions and words make complete sense as a victim of abuse. They make zero sense for a fabulist.

heartbreaking story. there is plenty to be said about (as she says) “trauma porn” and the embellishment of experience on applications for entry to elite institutions, but I’m not sure diming out your own student is the move

k3vin k., Friday, 1 April 2022 22:28 (two years ago) link

Hard pressed to decide with whom I would least enjoy a leisurely dinner: David Brooks or Tad Friend.

Of course his daughter's name is Addison. Of course.

mom tossed in kimchee (quincie), Wednesday, 13 April 2022 14:16 (two years ago) link

one time tad friend wrote a 1000000000 word nyer article on playing squash

adam, Wednesday, 13 April 2022 14:31 (two years ago) link

glad to know i'm not alone, his articles have always stood out to me as insufferable.

Lavator Shemmelpennick, Wednesday, 13 April 2022 16:56 (two years ago) link

I mean in the past few years the NYer as so obviously tried to increase the diversity in what/who it publishes, but then. . . this.

mom tossed in kimchee (quincie), Wednesday, 13 April 2022 17:07 (two years ago) link

My mom told me about this article and it just absolutely wrecked me. tw: suicide, child suicide

https://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2022/04/11/the-mystifying-rise-of-child-suicide

we need outrage! we need dicks!! (the table is the table), Thursday, 14 April 2022 17:50 (two years ago) link

yeah that was a tough read

k3vin k., Saturday, 16 April 2022 15:48 (two years ago) link

one month passes...
two weeks pass...

the matthew wong piece was really good; rip

johnny crunch, Friday, 10 June 2022 22:20 (one year ago) link

one month passes...

Several yrs ago, when my @NewYorker newsletter hit a 70%+ unique open rate (as I've mentioned previously here), I noted this accomplishment to a male icon of journalism. I was pleased by this feat & thought he would be, too. Instead, he turned to me & said, “Now don’t get cocky!”

— Erin Overbey (@erinoverbey) July 19, 2022

Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 19 July 2022 16:02 (one year ago) link

oh, I wonder why she was put under a performance review. I just can't figure it out--

In the last 15 years at the @NewYorker, during the tenure of editor-in-chief David Remnick (author of a bio on Obama), less than 0.01% of print feature & critics pieces have ever been edited by a Black editor.

— Erin Overbey (@erinoverbey) September 14, 2021

F'kin Magnetometers, how do they work? (President Keyes), Tuesday, 19 July 2022 16:17 (one year ago) link

The male colleague at the magazine who added these errors to my copy while I was under performance review is David Remnick, the @NewYorker’s Editor-in-Chief. I don’t pretend to understand why he did this. I do know that he has intimate knowledge of Malcolm’s work & when she died.

— Erin Overbey (@erinoverbey) July 19, 2022

erm

k3vin k., Tuesday, 19 July 2022 18:10 (one year ago) link

I’m gonna guess they send out a looooong staff memo that boils down to: “Let’s just all be nice, mmmkay?” Then a bunch of nearly identical tweets appear from junior staffers about what a great working environment The New Yorker is. Erin gets rape and death threats and is fired.

— Accidental_librarian (@ErkaLoubrarian) July 19, 2022

F'kin Magnetometers, how do they work? (President Keyes), Tuesday, 19 July 2022 18:15 (one year ago) link

chotiner more or less sits back and lets alan dershowitz chotiner himself: https://www.newyorker.com/news/q-and-a/alan-dershowitzs-marthas-vineyard-cancellation

mookieproof, Thursday, 21 July 2022 21:56 (one year ago) link

Does Chotiner usually do this much faux-toadying to flatter the interviewee? I guess his shtick’s getting too well-known

Chuck_Tatum, Thursday, 21 July 2022 22:39 (one year ago) link

there are only so many people who think they can ~ by general acclaim ~ come out on top against a canny guy with the final edit

dershowitz is a suitable avatar for them all

mookieproof, Friday, 22 July 2022 01:03 (one year ago) link

osnos superyacht article is v good

johnny crunch, Saturday, 23 July 2022 18:55 (one year ago) link

I feel like I've read a few versions of this piece over the years, but this one is really well-written:

I snuck into CPAC Hungary and all I got was this lousy article (and a heightened sense of foreboding about the fate of the American republic)https://t.co/hoovBMMqoq

— Andrew Marantz (@andrewmarantz) June 27, 2022

symsymsym, Sunday, 24 July 2022 04:10 (one year ago) link

yeah good read

k3vin k., Monday, 25 July 2022 00:12 (one year ago) link

So the @New Yorker has fired me, effective immediately. I’m speaking with the union about potentially filing a grievance on the termination. But here are some things that I will say….

— Erin Overbey (@erinoverbey) July 25, 2022

mookieproof, Monday, 25 July 2022 13:29 (one year ago) link

This is fucked up.

2) that several errors that were cited in an email reprimanding me while I was under the performance review were not mine; and 3) that these were errors that David Remnick added to the copy.

— Erin Overbey (@erinoverbey) July 25, 2022

xyzzzz__, Monday, 25 July 2022 15:14 (one year ago) link

tbh overbey sounds like a nightmare - it's a difficult dance to be an employee who raises major criticisms against their employer, and she doesn't seem to have had the social skills to pull it off.

sean gramophone, Monday, 25 July 2022 15:44 (one year ago) link

this reminds me of the recent felicia sonmez stuff where the person is right on the merits of the argument — well in overbey’s case the stuff about diversity there; i have no opinion on the performance review aspect — but you can only publicity castigate your employer for so long (especially from such a position of visibility [viral twitter threads]) before they’re probably going to want to fire you. that doesn’t feel very controversial to me… journalism jobs are not tenured, no one has a legal right to them. if she weighed the risks of speaking out (being fired) and decided that it was still important enough to her than more power to her honestly but she had to have seen this coming, no?

J0rdan S., Monday, 25 July 2022 16:14 (one year ago) link

Also looks like she has been documenting this stuff for years. She mentions starting the diversity tracking in 2019, because at that point she was "increasingly concerned." So yeah, you've got to assume she saw this coming.

Josh in Chicago, Monday, 25 July 2022 16:20 (one year ago) link

if they wanted to fire her for being a pr disaster on twitter that's kind of understandable

putting her on review for supposedly different reasons and then allegedly introducing errors into her work seems rather different

mookieproof, Monday, 25 July 2022 16:33 (one year ago) link

Every white guy in journalism right now over the age of like 50 still gets to play by a completely different rulebook than the rest of the world

Whiney G. Weingarten, Monday, 25 July 2022 16:37 (one year ago) link

how many email-only newsletters does the editor-in-chief normally edit personally

mookieproof, Monday, 25 July 2022 16:40 (one year ago) link

Jeffrey Toobin literally jacked off in front of a staff meeting and still has a job

Whiney G. Weingarten, Monday, 25 July 2022 16:41 (one year ago) link

not at the new yorker tho

mark s, Monday, 25 July 2022 16:45 (one year ago) link

personally embarrassing david remnick is a public service

mark s, Monday, 25 July 2022 16:45 (one year ago) link

more to the topic of this thread i really enjoyed the article on mega yacht culture in the latest issue

https://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2022/07/25/the-haves-and-the-have-yachts

J0rdan S., Monday, 25 July 2022 17:24 (one year ago) link

I’m still working my way through it. Man, it’s … something.

The Triumphant Return of Bernard & Stubbs (Raymond Cummings), Monday, 25 July 2022 17:31 (one year ago) link

Yeah, that yacht story is fascinating.

but also fuck you (unperson), Monday, 25 July 2022 17:40 (one year ago) link

i started reading it but i hate all these people, find them almost physically revolting

Tracer Hand, Monday, 25 July 2022 17:50 (one year ago) link

yes. but there's a way in which he gets at how pathetic and insecure they all are even as they scale up to unimaginable heights of wealth

J0rdan S., Monday, 25 July 2022 17:54 (one year ago) link

No matter how much money you have, you cannot escape death.

immodesty blaise (jimbeaux), Monday, 25 July 2022 17:56 (one year ago) link

this just gets better and better

So I was waiting for another hit piece to drop before responding to the @Gawker piece, but feel like it’s important to respond to this now. But first, does the @NewYorker still have a fact-checking dept?? Does @Gawker? So buckle up, kids—this will be a long one…

— Erin Overbey (@erinoverbey) August 5, 2022

k3vin k., Saturday, 6 August 2022 02:42 (one year ago) link

lol

mookieproof, Saturday, 6 August 2022 03:39 (one year ago) link

overbey evidently is so far handling this very well on twitter and gawker -- assuming they're not just fibbing -- may well have been stiffed by new yorker management (and also the union?)

BUT:
"Overbey did not respond to a lengthy list of questions we sent her on July 26 and multiple subsequent requests for comment. But after we reached out, she tweeted about the request. “To that @Gawker reporter who contacted me, I'll simply say, Go ahead & publish,” she wrote. “Publish it ALL. I'll just be over here sipping…”"

^^^this is where the fact-checking process kicks in and she deliberately opted not to supply any information to challenge the story they were getting from the other side? i mean this is her choice and her right obviously -- she's a journalist herself, she wants to control her won story -- but it does tend to support the claim that this is all a solo operation on her part (as does her suggestion that anyone they've anonymously quoted from the new yorker must be a management stooge…)

"of course you won't find anyone else to support my version of events! they're all in league against me!"

anyway as i say she's running the event well so let's see what round two scares up

mark s, Saturday, 6 August 2022 13:23 (one year ago) link

personally embarrassing david remnick is a public service

― mark s, Monday, 25 July 2022 17:45 (one week ago) bookmarkflaglink

^^^this is still the key takeaway

mark s, Saturday, 6 August 2022 13:33 (one year ago) link


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