i also love when the baddie calls the main character to 'activate' him and says "mindcrime" on the phone, the guitar is also playing underneath it. so I guess the riff is also required to trigger him?
― they were written with a ouija board and a rhyming dictionary (Neanderthal), Saturday, 15 January 2022 23:17 (two years ago) link
ideologically vague
Yes; I heard this for the first time a couple of years ago, after having read reviews like Chuck Eddy's in Stairway to Hell. A lot of the lyrical rhetoric that he identifies as radical or left-leaning scans as potentially proto-MAGA now.
― Halfway there but for you, Sunday, 16 January 2022 02:16 (two years ago) link
I have trouble seeing it as making a clearly left- or right-wing statement. The political revolutionaries are actually the biggest villains - terrorists, brainwashers, killers. But it also never contradicts Nikki's original disillusionment with Reagan-era America or the church, which come off as equally corrupt and exploitative. The only positive force is Mary, the exploited prostitute-cum-nun. It seems cynical and nihilistic more than anything. "Empire" actually made a bizarre "we need more cops on the streets" sort of statement, though, iirc.
Fwiw, Tate himself seems like a pretty explicitly left-wing and anti-Trump guy: https://www.blabbermouth.net/news/ex-queensryche-singer-geoff-tate-i-believe-in-socialism/https://www.today.com/popculture/queensryche-gets-political-tour-wbna4742694
I believe in socialism and social health care. And I'm for the people — I'm not for the rich people...Back in late 2017, Tate said that Donald Trump will probably go down as "the worst president" in U.S. history. His comments came two years after he said that he didn't think then-candidate Trump was "presidential material."
Back in late 2017, Tate said that Donald Trump will probably go down as "the worst president" in U.S. history. His comments came two years after he said that he didn't think then-candidate Trump was "presidential material."
― The sensual shock (Sund4r), Sunday, 16 January 2022 02:41 (two years ago) link
That's good to hear, but I imagine he'd agree that lyrics like these read differently now than they would have in 1988:
Got no love for politiciansOr that crazy scene in D.C.It's just a power mad townBut the time is ripe for changesThere's a growing feelingThat taking a chance on a new kind of vision is dueI used to trust the mediaTo tell me the truth, tell us the truthBut now I've seen the payoffsEverywhere I lookWho do you trust when everyone's a crook?
I used to trust the mediaTo tell me the truth, tell us the truthBut now I've seen the payoffsEverywhere I lookWho do you trust when everyone's a crook?
― Halfway there but for you, Sunday, 16 January 2022 02:52 (two years ago) link
Well, they express disillusionment and a desire for change without having any clear ideas as to how - which can be channelled by left or right. Either way, though, the charismatic leader who responds to this disillusionment and recruits the protagonist for an anti-Establishment movement turns out to be an even greater monster so it's hard to see it as an endorsement.
― The sensual shock (Sund4r), Sunday, 16 January 2022 03:02 (two years ago) link
In that case, maybe it's ahead of its time in creating Dr. X as a proto-Trump!
Here's the Chuck Eddy quote:
It's naive and cynical as any rock-politix ever, but no way is it merely "liberal" - seems they're even explicitly pro-Sandinista.
― Halfway there but for you, Sunday, 16 January 2022 03:27 (two years ago) link
Geoff Tate says "fuck" weird
― hootenanny-soundtracking clusterfucks about milking cows (Neanderthal), Sunday, 5 March 2023 17:20 (one year ago) link
it's kind of ard to believe this band put this album together at that stage of their career, because they'd been heading a poppier, more accessible direction on the album previous, with synths and robotic sounds, the Dalbello cover. it's pretty dope but "sprawling rock concept album" wasn't
granted, the ideas on Mindcrime are fairly economical musically, but the arrangements are fairly dense, and so much care and work put into the between song dialogue and themes. they seemed like a band that was going to take the pop direction to increase their notoriety, and instead Mindcrime is the thing that really broke them, the first to go platinum, highest charting album in the US up until that time. which set up Empire as their New Jersey, which charted higher and sold more but ultimately disappointed fans
― hootenanny-soundtracking clusterfucks about milking cows (Neanderthal), Sunday, 5 March 2023 17:32 (one year ago) link