Star Wars: The Disney+ Empire Strikes Again and Again and...

Enjoyed this piece -- the author is Native American.

https://gizmodo.com/how-the-book-of-boba-fett-evolved-star-wars-view-of-the-1848361263

Ep 4 certainly answered the questions about why he ditched hunting and became daimyo.

also, lots of "I am Bóba Fett" not Boba Fétt

This week’s episode was a pleasant surprise!

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Mostly this episode highlighted how much more I now like SPOILER than Bobba. The ringworld was sick, but could've used a few parks.

I used to date a jawa

omg

this episode <3

Yeah that was good all around, both on the serious and fun tip. Nice how it seems to partially set up a third season of something else.

cranking that fan service dial up to 1000%

I mean, this entire series is 1000% fan service from the jump, so that seems an odd complaint. I'd argue that the entire Disney+ series ecosystem (Marvel, Star Wars) exists solely as fan service.

It just feels like it's losing momentum with each episode, though I guess that's not a common complaint.

that wasn’t a complaint! i’m a fan and i appreciated the service

Sorry, I think I'm just so used to people using "fan service" as a pejorative that I made a faulty assumption.

Wait so Grogu shows up? Guess I gotta watch the rest of this mess. We gave up after ep 2, where they got into a fight with some people riding on a train for no good reason.

where they got into a fight with some people riding on a train for no good reason.

This is.. not what happened? A spice syndicate was passing by on a train, shooting at (and killing a couple of) the Tusken Raiders that Boba Fett had been captured by. He led an attack on the train in revenge.

Seemed to me a train was driving by and the tuskans were shooting at it. Why would the spice traders randomly open fire on the tuskans from a train?

I thought it was pretty clear that the spice traders had attacked them multiple times in the past, to the point that the Tuskens had somewhat of watch out for the train so they could be ready to fire back and defend themselves.

I’m pretty sure that shooting at native peoples from a train for the hell of it, or due to some past conflict, isn’t something the show writers invented

Yeah this point was totally clear

Sure. I don't want to shit on this show, but y'all are nuts if you think this is good TV. Especially when you compare it to the Mandolorian.

I mean, I don't care if you hate it, but your terrible description of basic plot points leads me to believe you barely paid attention to what was on the screen.

That is possible. It was not engaging.

A reason people are a little prickly about this is that the reference points are obvious and very ugly
https://www.pbs.org/wgbh/americanexperience/features/tcrr-native-americans-and-transcontinental-railroad/

This is not a hill I want to die on, but that is a story about clashes between railroad builders and Native Americans. Boba Fett had a story about dudes zooming through a landscape (why are they not just flying in the air? Who knows?) taking potshots at Tuskan Raiders for unexplained reasons other than that they are assholes. Seems like a shaky parallel to me, but if that was their intent, fine.

I believe they are shooting at them because they are raiders. Perhaps flight is expensive for the amount or weight of cargo. Or maybe a train is safer for transporting illegal stuff.

DJI, i'm sympathetic to your desire to not read too much into a space chambara but i do think the parallels with genuine aboriginal v colonizer wars - whether american or elsewhere - were clearly intentional
https://gizmodo.com/how-the-book-of-boba-fett-evolved-star-wars-view-of-the-1848361263

that said, i stopped on the second episode and - though I'll likely go back - I've found this notably less charming and clever than the mando and baby yoda program. not really sure why, except that neither temuera or ming-na haven't been much fun to watch.

they are both v low-key actors & the pacing of Boba Fett series is a lot slower than Mando seemed

to my memory anyway

But the thing is I'm loving practically every minute of it.

I hope the Obi-Wan series is better, but GD do I have Tatooine burnout

I thought the attack on the train was a Lawrence of Arabia reference, though it's been a long time since I saw it.

What a great episode
Baby F’in Greedo!
“I used to date a jawa…”

xxposts to Ned: same!

but when SPOILER showed up i was like aaaaaaahhhhh omg i missed u boo

The original Mando series had to prove Star Wars could work as a TV serial without sacrificing any of the production quality and visual imagination while finding new ways to expand the types of stories that could exist within the Star Wars mythos. This lent a dimension of danger to the weekly unfolding of each episode, even if the overarching motif was still that of marrying two ultimately conservative forms: the Western and the Space Opera. It seems, at least so far, Boba has doubled down on the more conservative aspects of the Mando series - more of a burrowing into a small section of the mythos than a pushing outward of the envelope.

Mandy was also (mostly) fun, even when it was junky fun. Fett isn’t much fun, IMO, not sure why

o nate - yeah that seems right

i love the digging-in aspect of it, i think bc slow pacing is not as common in these kinds of shows it is good that there’s a lot of room to explore

also i know its been a thing w this character for ages now but it occurred to me just the other day that it is so powerful that Morrison uses his native accent & is not having to do some kind of generic american accent or something

I hope the Obi-Wan series is better, but GD do I have Tatooine burnout

Oh god, so much this. With such an expansive universe, I'm over Tatooine. But I'm sure Obi-Wan will spend at least some time there.

we all need to appreciate that Favreau+Dis wrote a script that let the Star Wars universe have Jerri Blank

There's been at least one thing in each episode I've enjoyed, but overall, this Boba Fett season has felt kind of flat

I'm more of a Star Trek person than Star Wars, but I think for TV that is basically aimed at the enteral 12 year old, The Mandolorian/Boba Fett has been pretty cool.

I've been both Star Wars and Star Trek but have been slowly rebranding as a Dune guy

Still, too much sand on these Star Wars shows

sand wars: the series

Tatooine is like Smallville in the old Superboy comics; a sleepy backwater where thrilling adventures constantly happen, out of narrative necessity.

Just wanna say it was extremely cool to see a torus space cityscape in this.

I hope the Obi-Wan series is better, but GD do I have Tatooine burnout

Good job the Mandalorian featured several other planets! Which were mostly indistinguishable from Tatooine.

I've been both Star Wars and Star Trek but have been slowly rebranding as a Dune guy

Star Wars seems to be rebranding as a Dune guy as well.

Considering finally watching Zardoz to decide whether I could be a Zardoz guy

in terms of your personal style? I'd say yes, absolutely!

oh man, the latest episode reminded me of just how much I love Star Wars <3