The Kinks post -1970. Classic or Dud + Search and Destroy

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Yes, it's like a snapshot of a certain drunken, horn-laden idea of the Kinks in 1972, more Fandango than Made in Japan.

Halfway there but for you, Sunday, 9 January 2022 16:35 (two years ago) link

(now thinking of Lou Reed interrupting "I Wanna Be Black" with a rendition of "The Banana Boat Song")

Halfway there but for you, Sunday, 9 January 2022 16:36 (two years ago) link

"I wanna be black
I wanna have a banana..."

Mark G, Sunday, 9 January 2022 17:42 (two years ago) link

"Take No Prisoners" = methamphetamine
"Everybody's in Showbiz" = Tetley's Bitter

I Can't See Gervais In My Mind (Tom D.), Sunday, 9 January 2022 17:45 (two years ago) link

lol

The Door into Summerisle (James Redd and the Blecchs), Sunday, 9 January 2022 18:04 (two years ago) link

The record is kind of lost, but the version of Celluloid Heroes on To the Bone is absolutely terrific.

Naive Teen Idol, Tuesday, 11 January 2022 04:02 (two years ago) link

one month passes...

"Give the People What They Want".

This album is pretty much a write-off until the last three songs. So much of it consists of an out-of-touch middle aged rocker's idea of what punk/new wave sounds like, with shouty vocals from Ray and hideous heavy rock guitar from Dave. The song that recycles "All of the Day and All of the Night" is an abomination. Plus it just sounds crap. Then Ray comes up with a jokey song written from the point of view of a would-be paedophile, a pretty bleak song about spousal abuse and follows those up with a song hoping for better times!

Alfred Ndwego of Kenya (Tom D.), Tuesday, 8 March 2022 21:47 (two years ago) link

That's what the people wanted!

Halfway there but for you, Tuesday, 8 March 2022 21:53 (two years ago) link

Not I.

Mardi Gras Mambo Sun (James Redd and the Blecchs), Tuesday, 8 March 2022 21:56 (two years ago) link

I'd actually rather listen to "Destroyer" than "All Day and All of the Night", I don't even mind the medley of the two that Ray did with Billy Corgan.

Halfway there but for you, Tuesday, 8 March 2022 21:59 (two years ago) link

Para-noi-a! the destroy-er!

It's absolutely appalling! I really wish Ray had split the band up some time in the mid 70s.

Alfred Ndwego of Kenya (Tom D.), Tuesday, 8 March 2022 22:02 (two years ago) link

Pretty much

Mardi Gras Mambo Sun (James Redd and the Blecchs), Tuesday, 8 March 2022 22:03 (two years ago) link

I think it's the one "heavy" song they did in their arena rock phase that can handle the overstatement.

Halfway there but for you, Tuesday, 8 March 2022 22:06 (two years ago) link

lol it even starts with "met a girl named Lola..."

funny enough I am listening to the Kink Kronikles right now and it is nuts how Ray could basically do no wrong for like that entire 5 year period. practically every song here is gold and it's still missing a lot of the best album tracks. then he just kind of fucked around for a few years and when he tried to make hit records again it's like he forgot how to write a song. I remember reading some article about all the stuff from Sleepwalker on pointing out all the instances of self-plagiarism and stolen riffs. it's like two-thirds of the songs. kinda goes with his fuck-you-I'm-a-star attitude I guess

frogbs, Tuesday, 8 March 2022 22:15 (two years ago) link

Ray Davies used to - and still does probably - make a song and dance about how Pete Townshend had ripped the Kinks off on "Can't Explain", which Townshend admitted to, and so kick started the Who's career. So what does Ray do? He rips off the Who on at least one track on every second album from the mid 70s onwards.

Alfred Ndwego of Kenya (Tom D.), Tuesday, 8 March 2022 22:39 (two years ago) link

Nice use of "fa fa fa fa fa" here (not really)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2QhUma34j7s

PaulTMA, Tuesday, 8 March 2022 23:12 (two years ago) link

Recycled the Father Christmas riff too, it seems.

Mardi Gras Mambo Sun (James Redd and the Blecchs), Tuesday, 8 March 2022 23:14 (two years ago) link

I don’t think Ray was too upset about “I Can’t Explain” at the time, but it probably stung considerably in the ensuing years when the Who got huge while the Kinks floundered commercially (and ended up opening for the Who in 1969). Similarly, the Kinks initially outsold the Stones in the US (and Avory had been a Stone), but the Stones quickly overtook them; and “Zeppelin?! That Page kid used to play on our records!” Ray seemed content to follow his muse in the ‘70s with the theatrical records — he knew those albums weren’t trying to compete with the Who, Stones, or Zep — but probably felt frustrated by 1976 since the Kinks had laid the groundwork for those stadium-filling bands while not able to fill stadiums (or arenas) themselves. So the clumsy following of trends, and jumping head-first into arena-rock hackery, became their defining qualities.

Montgomery Burns' Jazz (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Tuesday, 8 March 2022 23:23 (two years ago) link


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