something glorious is about to happen
― mookieproof, Saturday, 8 January 2022 23:05 (two years ago) link
real "it's so coooooold. in this house" hours
― J0rdan S., Saturday, 8 January 2022 23:11 (two years ago) link
my heat is in fact out
― STOCK FIST-PUMPER BRAD (BradNelson), Saturday, 8 January 2022 23:16 (two years ago) link
though not on the album itself, "two more years" is a perfect song
― ufo, Saturday, 8 January 2022 23:21 (two years ago) link
i remember returning this cd to fopp because i thought it was terrible and the guy at the counter just looked at me and shook his head in dismay. have always liked banquet though. maybe i should give it another go
― o shit the sheriff (NickB), Saturday, 8 January 2022 23:37 (two years ago) link
cheers for letting me know of the existence of "Two More Years", ufo. I haven't liked much from this band post-Silent Alarm, so it's cool to discover this new-to-me song from that early era. I see there's also a few songs I've never heard on the early EPs
― Vinnie, Sunday, 9 January 2022 11:30 (two years ago) link
“Little Thoughts” and “Tulips” are great too.
― hamicle, Sunday, 9 January 2022 11:49 (two years ago) link
they have a ton of great non-album material, just from the silent alarm era there's the following non-album tracks and most of them are excellent:
always new depthsstorm & stressskeletonstaying fatlittle thoughtstulipsherothe marshals are deadthe presenttwo more yearsthe answer
"the present" especially is one of their very best too and they just gave it away to a charity compilation.
the a weekend in a city b-sides also have some particularly strong tracks among them, that really could have been a great album if they'd put the right material on it. "rhondodendrons" especially
― ufo, Sunday, 9 January 2022 12:04 (two years ago) link
Thank you for the list! Yeah I really like 3 or 4 tracks from Weekend but as a whole, found it disappointing, and Intimacy ... bleh. I'll check out the Weekend b-sides though
― Vinnie, Sunday, 9 January 2022 12:18 (two years ago) link
i think AWITC is still good, just disappointing compared to what it could have been and let down by production that didn't really do it any favours. maybe half of intimacy is worthwhile? they really became a band that was absolutely determined to ignore & avoid their own strengths
― ufo, Sunday, 9 January 2022 12:27 (two years ago) link
Of the ‘AWITC’ b-sides “England” is my favourite. Should have been on the album.
― hamicle, Sunday, 9 January 2022 12:29 (two years ago) link
“cain said to abel” >>>>>
― STOCK FIST-PUMPER BRAD (BradNelson), Sunday, 9 January 2022 14:18 (two years ago) link
damn the way i played the shit out of "staying fat", "little thoughts," "always new depths" etc driving around in high school. fuck
― J0rdan S., Sunday, 9 January 2022 17:30 (two years ago) link
I think a lot of bands that begin as "a spectacular sum" on early records will, over time, find the primary creator subconsciously shunting and/or minimizing the work of the other contributors. It's not like they're "determined to ignore and avoid their own strengths" so much as it's a natural by-product of the maturing process. I do miss Tong with the band he was an incandescent drummer
― flamboyant goon tie included, Sunday, 9 January 2022 22:25 (two years ago) link
the whole band was pretty direct in interviews for a while about being bored by rock music and wanting to make more experimental music influenced by radiohead, hip-hop & dance music but this often lead to pretty bad and bizarre results, it wasn't just okereke & lissack leading, though it does seem like they increasingly became the dominant creative force as a duo.
there's definitely some of what you're talking about with increasingly sidelining tong in favour of programmed beats etc. on awitc & intimacy though.
then when they did the back-to-basics rock album with four, it was actually the biggest departure for them & showed that they weren't really very interested in what they'd done before at all anymore, they all talked about being really into grunge when making it. you can kinda hear that influence in the heavier sound of it but it's a pretty idiosyncratic (& not very good) album. i saw them live on that tour and they put on a good show though, despite there apparently being a ton of bad blood behind the scenes which lead to tong & moakes quitting a few months later.
― ufo, Monday, 10 January 2022 04:53 (two years ago) link
they were also regularly pretty disparaging of silent alarm as boring rock music etc. for quite a while, i'm not sure they gave that up until they did the playing-it-in-full tour (which was great even without tong & moakes)
― ufo, Monday, 10 January 2022 04:54 (two years ago) link
Even though I didn't care for about half of AWITC, I thought they put on an amazing show during that tour (the only time I've seen them). Even the AWITC songs I didn't like were carried by the band's energy. Tong was insane to see live
― Vinnie, Monday, 10 January 2022 10:47 (two years ago) link