Down With the Sickness: Canadian Politics 2022

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thx! i'm constantly frustrated by how infrequently they update the data on hospitalizations on that dashboard (which i otherwise like a lot). i'm not sure where justin gets it. i was bummed when he stopped daily updating his covid by the numbers page on cbc

flopson, Friday, 7 January 2022 01:17 (two years ago) link

the jump in hospitalisations in quebec last week was pretty scary, but still no real ICU action there either

flopson, Friday, 7 January 2022 01:18 (two years ago) link

that's reassuring that there hasn't been an ICU rise there. big rise in hospitalization could still wreak havoc of course...I wonder what pctg of the ICU numbers are Omicron. Not that I expect that data to be available anytime soon

symsymsym, Friday, 7 January 2022 01:31 (two years ago) link

I would imagine there’s actually always an increase in those stats in Canadian hospitals this time of year. Seems the biggest problem (and probably why few are acknowledging it) is because healthcare staffing has collapsed to the point they can’t even handle normal numbers.

Kim, Friday, 7 January 2022 15:29 (two years ago) link

Libs plan to increase funding to CBC, with a goal of reducing private advertising, ultimately eliminating it during news and public affairs shows: https://nationalpost.com/news/politics/liberals-move-to-modernize-cbc-making-public-broadcaster-less-reliant-on-advertising

The sensual shock (Sund4r), Wednesday, 19 January 2022 02:35 (two years ago) link

Recently, I looked into what came of the new francophone university in Toronto, which had been discussed in these threads. It seems... puzzling. It opened in September, with something like 130-150 students (my high school had 2000), 75% of whom were international students. It offers degrees in four disciplines, none of which sound like programmes I've heard of at any other university: Studies in Digital Culture, Studies in Human Plurality, Studies in Urban Environments, and Studies in Economy and Social Innovation. You can also take 'microprogrammes' that lead to 'micro-certificates'. Meanwhile, the province let Laurentian University, a bilingual and tricultural university located in a non-overpopulated and more bilingual (in the English/French sense) city, go bankrupt last year. (My bias being that my partner had been contracted to teach online courses at Laurentian just before that happened + I had a family member that taught there as a career when I was growing up.)

https://ici.radio-canada.ca/nouvelle/1821979/uof-universite-ontario-francais-rentree-inauguration-etudiants-cohorte
https://ici.radio-canada.ca/nouvelle/1812788/universite-ontario-francais-demandes-septembre

The sensual shock (Sund4r), Wednesday, 19 January 2022 02:47 (two years ago) link

this was a pretty stupid thing to do: https://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/jagmeet-singh-chair-gift-reimburse-1.6319704

symsymsym, Wednesday, 19 January 2022 05:17 (two years ago) link

If I'm understanding, Singh's wife was essentially being paid (in kind) to advertise the chair in the first place? Seems pretty dumb, if relatively small potatoes.

The sensual shock (Sund4r), Wednesday, 19 January 2022 14:01 (two years ago) link

This take, which I'm seeing right wingers melt down about on Twitter, seems curious: https://torontosun.com/opinion/columnists/lilley-trudeau-made-trucker-shortage-worse-but-youll-pay-for-it

For one thing, as I understand it, the feds already backtracked on requiring vaccination for Canadian truckers returning from the US a week ago, which Lilley doesn't mention at all. Did something change?: https://www.reuters.com/world/americas/canadian-truckers-stay-exempt-covid-19-vaccine-requirements-2022-01-13/

For another, the US is imposing the same rules at their border. But also, why would there be so many unvaccinated truck drivers in the first place, as to create the kinds of issues described here?: https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2022-01-14/trudeau-plays-dangerous-game-demanding-vaccines-from-truckers
Isn't the US requiring vaccination in all larger trucking firms anyway?

The sensual shock (Sund4r), Wednesday, 19 January 2022 14:16 (two years ago) link

I don’t think they actually did backtrack on that, though it was reported for a while. It was an “error”
https://ottawa.citynews.ca/national-business/ottawa-to-go-ahead-with-trucker-vaccine-mandate-after-stating-it-would-scrap-it-4952646

I’ll promote those monte chairs for free, lol. Splurged on one with the first kid 14 years ago, and it’s still well loved - in fact I’m sitting in it right now.

Kim, Wednesday, 19 January 2022 14:49 (two years ago) link

Ah, OK.

The sensual shock (Sund4r), Wednesday, 19 January 2022 14:56 (two years ago) link

This is the dumbest shit: https://ottawa.ctvnews.ca/expect-large-police-presence-in-downtown-ottawa-as-trucker-convoy-arrives-1.5757761

Most infuriating:

Ottawa Public Health has closed two vaccination clinics in the Glebe and Lowertown in anticipation of traffic disruptions this weekend.

The sensual shock (Sund4r), Friday, 28 January 2022 16:48 (two years ago) link

I hadn't realized Tories like Pierre Poilievre and Andrew Scheer are actually backing this nonsense.
https://www.cbc.ca/player/play/1996667971692

Thank you Truckers! Trudeau is attacking personal liberty and threatening everyone's ability to get groceries because of his overreach on vaccine mandates. He is the biggest threat to freedom in Canada.https://t.co/5b5k5ZjuY3

— Andrew Scheer (@AndrewScheer) January 24, 2022

The sensual shock (Sund4r), Friday, 28 January 2022 16:59 (two years ago) link

isn't O'Toole meeting them too?

rob, Friday, 28 January 2022 17:04 (two years ago) link

Think there's going to be a riot?

jmm, Friday, 28 January 2022 17:04 (two years ago) link

hm Erin kind of splitting the difference I guess: https://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/otoole-convoy-protest-meeting-1.6330575

rob, Friday, 28 January 2022 17:06 (two years ago) link

Parliament Hill is a 10-15 minute walk from my apartment. I'm a little curious to rubberneck at this. Hope I'll still be able to get groceries today.

The sensual shock (Sund4r), Friday, 28 January 2022 17:14 (two years ago) link

Curiosity got the better of me. I left my mask on, thinking it would be enough of a signal that I wasn't there in support. They had shut down much less of the downtown core than I'd feared. Until I got up to Queen St., there wasn't too much of a presence. White guys with beards, a lot of horns, and obv vehicles that take up space, a bunch of "FUCK TRUDEAU" signs and a lot of flags. At the same time, a protest where most people are staying in their vehicles is less impressive than people actually getting out there in person - and ironically socially distanced.

The sensual shock (Sund4r), Friday, 28 January 2022 19:58 (two years ago) link

Also kind of silly considering the city is still mostly locked down and Parliamentary staff are afaik mostly working from home.

The sensual shock (Sund4r), Friday, 28 January 2022 20:14 (two years ago) link

Users on social media have miscaptioned videos and photos claiming to show the "Freedom Convoy" protest in Canada over the government’s COVID-19 vaccine mandate for truckers. The thread below includes some examples. pic.twitter.com/oFdH68WztX

— Reuters Fact Check (@ReutersFacts) January 27, 2022

The sensual shock (Sund4r), Saturday, 29 January 2022 15:10 (two years ago) link

This is consistent with what I've seen so far - mostly honking SUVs, vans, cars, with the odd truck in there:

If its so big and so great, why all the fake shit? I’ve yet to see a photo of an actual truck convoy. Cars and SUV’s don’t really count.

— Vicki Campbell 🇨🇦 (@merry123459) January 29, 2022

The sensual shock (Sund4r), Saturday, 29 January 2022 15:10 (two years ago) link

This sounds like the supposed trucker protest in DC during the Obama years when one of the few truckers who actually showed up wailed into his CB “where is everybody?!”

Johnny Mathis der Maler (Boring, Maryland), Saturday, 29 January 2022 17:49 (two years ago) link

From Reddit:

A friend in downtown told me that all the porta-potties are full of shit now. Can’t be used

There is no place to poop

jmm, Saturday, 29 January 2022 20:13 (two years ago) link

Ugh, ok, downtown is way more clogged today. Still seeing more SUVs than trucks. Eventually I started giving the finger to anyone who honked or walked by with a sign or flag when I was stuck in stationary traffic around the corner from home.

The sensual shock (Sund4r), Saturday, 29 January 2022 23:06 (two years ago) link

Sorry to have infected your country with our shit.

Johnny Mathis der Maler (Boring, Maryland), Saturday, 29 January 2022 23:17 (two years ago) link

they were honking up and down burrard street all afternoon. carhorn protests are really the most annoying form of protest

symsymsym, Sunday, 30 January 2022 00:01 (two years ago) link

Hanging an upside-down flag on the Terry Fox monument really seems to crystallize everything these people stand for.
https://www.thestar.com/politics/federal/2022/01/29/terry-fox-statue-defaced-in-ottawa-sparking-condemnation.html

The sensual shock (Sund4r), Sunday, 30 January 2022 00:03 (two years ago) link

This statistic is striking considering how white the protest is:
https://www.theglobeandmail.com/canada/article-almost-one-in-five-canadian-truckers-is-south-asian-but-many-dont-see/
xp

The sensual shock (Sund4r), Sunday, 30 January 2022 00:08 (two years ago) link

Ooh, that is enraging.

The sensual shock (Sund4r), Sunday, 30 January 2022 00:09 (two years ago) link

I passed the Vancouver protest earlier on when it was out in East Van - 1st and Grandview Hwy roughly. Surprisingly there were a lot of vehicles. Hundreds. Then the people on the street corners cheering them going past and waving PPC signs were mostly Asian. When I got home my next door neighbor was setting off to join them lol. Makes no sense.

everything, Sunday, 30 January 2022 00:19 (two years ago) link

o_O.

I have seen exactly one visible minority openly participating or supporting this here so far. But good to hear other perspectives - never good to stereotype.

The sensual shock (Sund4r), Sunday, 30 January 2022 00:24 (two years ago) link

Lot of Asian people in the neighbourhood, but still...

everything, Sunday, 30 January 2022 00:55 (two years ago) link

This video, shared by a supporter, looks, uh, consistent in demographics with what I've been observing around here:

Are you serious man pic.twitter.com/4m9qC7spBM

— David Laflamme (@davidlaflammme) January 29, 2022

The sensual shock (Sund4r), Sunday, 30 January 2022 05:27 (two years ago) link

also in beards

The sensual shock (Sund4r), Sunday, 30 January 2022 05:27 (two years ago) link

Sorry, don't want to misrepresent what was going on...the protest did look to be all white guys tbh but on the two or three main intersections along the way there was little crowds of people with canada flags and ppc signs and there were lots of non white people there. Probably faith groups from the suburbs?

everything, Sunday, 30 January 2022 09:07 (two years ago) link

Nice and quiet this morning

The sensual shock (Sund4r), Sunday, 30 January 2022 14:30 (two years ago) link

Today will almost certainly be the last 'big' day. An employee at the hotel I'm at say more or less *everybody* who checked in Friday and Saturday are checking out today.

Obviously, the long-haulers are going to stay nestled in their trucks when Parliament resumes Monday.

— Justin Ling (@Justin_Ling) January 30, 2022

jmm, Sunday, 30 January 2022 14:47 (two years ago) link

Spoke too soon. Horns just started up again.

The sensual shock (Sund4r), Sunday, 30 January 2022 14:49 (two years ago) link

edmonton:

From CBC: Edmonton MP on Parliament Hill handing out coffee to protestors, with upside-down Canadian flag with swastika in background. Disgraceful. #FluTruxKlan #FluTrucksKlan #KarenKonvoy pic.twitter.com/RoU2tmh2Kl

— Barre Campbell (@bgrantcampbell) January 29, 2022

Punster McPunisher, Sunday, 30 January 2022 18:35 (two years ago) link

i'm just catching up with all of this and apparently there were more nazi and confederate flags being flown at these protests in various cities.

these people are so utterly confused. you can't even have a rational discussion with them

https://www.reddit.com/r/pics/comments/sfql2g/nazi_flag_during_freedom_convoy_protest_at/

Punster McPunisher, Sunday, 30 January 2022 18:57 (two years ago) link

Yep, both pictures are from Parliament Hill here. The MP is Michael Cooper:

Conservative Member of Parliament Michael Cooper, supporting the anti-vaxx convoy being interviewed in front of a swastika.

Just a normal, peaceful protest. pic.twitter.com/Xou4sb9beu

— Chris Bittle (@Chris_Bittle) January 29, 2022


He has caught flak from Edmonton's mayor and some councillors: https://edmonton.ctvnews.ca/edmonton-st-albert-mayors-concerned-by-local-mp-s-presence-at-freedom-convoy-rally-in-ottawa-1.5760323

The sensual shock (Sund4r), Sunday, 30 January 2022 19:20 (two years ago) link

I can't make out what was written on the QC flag behind him. Can anyone read it?

The sensual shock (Sund4r), Sunday, 30 January 2022 19:21 (two years ago) link

I really wish the CBC would stop calling this a protest against Covid restrictions

Nothing says "grassroots campaign to end vaccine mandates" like professionally-made transphobia placards. Via @TheCanuckMD pic.twitter.com/G4DvflHSOI

— Michelle Cohen, MD (@DocMCohen) January 30, 2022

If there are any journalist lurkers here please read this thread

🧵Want to know how protests like today's #FluTrucksKlan benefit alt-right extremists? Here's some 101 on how hat operates.

First, they pick an issue that has reached a boiling point. In this case, it's the pandemic and health mandates. They know a lot of people are exhausted.
1/

— Mx. Amanda Jetté Knox (@MavenOfMayhem) January 30, 2022

At least they are reporting this: https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/calgary/convoy-protest-border-lethbridge-alberta-1.6332936

rob, Sunday, 30 January 2022 19:30 (two years ago) link

Ugh. Hopefully it’s broken up a bit out there sund4r? I just drove a couple hours eastbound on the 401, and passed at least 100 westbound convoy vehicles (flag draped) that had to be headed home. Not nearly as many trucks as smaller vans and pickups though. Still seemed like a lot.

Kim, Sunday, 30 January 2022 20:32 (two years ago) link

We got the thumbnail version in St. Marys: one guy standing at the town's main intersection, Unknown Comic paper bag over his head, anti-vaxx signage (and a People's Party sign hanging from a drainage pipe inside his car parked nearby). Thankfully, he wasn't looking to engage as I walked by; not something I'm particularly up for at the moment.

clemenza, Sunday, 30 January 2022 21:32 (two years ago) link

Took some pictures en route to the drug store: https://photos.app.goo.gl/v5VnPUWy2nkYoMyQ9

The sensual shock (Sund4r), Sunday, 30 January 2022 22:06 (two years ago) link

I wandered up Bank St. for a bit until the honking got to be too much.

Definitely a surreal weekend.

jmm, Sunday, 30 January 2022 22:22 (two years ago) link

I love the "WE ARE THE FRINGE" signs. Like... okay, I believe you.

jmm, Monday, 31 January 2022 02:47 (two years ago) link

Friends, it's been a difficult 24 hours. Staff harassed for meals. A service user and security guard assaulted. Through it all, you have donated and filled our hearts with gratitude. Every cent will support people experiencing homelessness. Thank you. See our statement ⬇️ pic.twitter.com/TYHD8r8aLo

— Shepherds of Good Hope (@sghottawa) January 30, 2022

The sensual shock (Sund4r), Monday, 31 January 2022 13:34 (two years ago) link

Amazing!

https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/toronto/toronto-mayor-john-tory-statement-1.6745144

(No posts in two months? Was Canada shut down?)

clemenza, Saturday, 11 February 2023 02:35 (one year ago) link

"Tory will also be remembered as a mayor on the move." lol.

maf you one two (maffew12), Saturday, 11 February 2023 02:43 (one year ago) link

The scandal no one could have predicted.

FRAUDULENT STEAKS (The Cursed Return of the Dastardly Thermo Thinwall), Saturday, 11 February 2023 15:43 (one year ago) link

Except for maybe the Beaverton; who fucking slayed me with this headline:
“John Tory’s career inevitably cut short by his raw, unstoppable sexual magnetism”

FRAUDULENT STEAKS (The Cursed Return of the Dastardly Thermo Thinwall), Saturday, 11 February 2023 15:45 (one year ago) link

I hope our next sober, asexual mayor gives an ounce of a shit about the unhoused

Murgatroid, Saturday, 11 February 2023 18:27 (one year ago) link

Couldn't believe the picture they had of Tory on the front page of the Star today. He looked like he'd aged 40 years--he looked like a corpse.

clemenza, Sunday, 12 February 2023 04:29 (one year ago) link

Is there any reason to believe that this clears the way for a more progressive mayor? I wouldn't be surprised if we get another Ford (maybe literally).

Halfway there but for you, Monday, 13 February 2023 15:09 (one year ago) link

read a few rumours this weekend that Doug is stepping down as premier to run for mayor (unlikely) and that Michael is running (more likely)

Murgatroid, Monday, 13 February 2023 16:43 (one year ago) link

Ford must be reveling in this. Tory, on his radio show, was (correctly, I'd say) really hard on both Fords when the crack story broke. Whatever public front they've put up the past few years, pretty sure they despise each other.

clemenza, Monday, 13 February 2023 17:13 (one year ago) link

two months pass...

about time that michael york was suitably honoured

https://i.imgur.com/BPWIn7D.jpg

mookieproof, Monday, 8 May 2023 02:23 (eleven months ago) link

any other Torontonians paying attention to the mayoral by-election? are there even any Torontonians here other than Simon (does he count if he doesn't post anymore) and I?

anyway I'm volunteering for the Josh Matlow campaign though I can't wait until all of this is over

Murgatroid, Monday, 8 May 2023 04:38 (eleven months ago) link

what do people in the city think of Chow?

symsymsym, Monday, 8 May 2023 04:50 (eleven months ago) link

can't speak for anyone else but she seems to be doing well in the polls (which lol are like a thousand or less respondents each, fuck polling seriously) so she's coasting by on name recognition basically since she's put out like two policy positions while Matlow's put out like 10+ costed, detailed positions

it's a bit annoying

at any other time, ofc I'd be voting Chow and she'd still be better than the last how many years of conservative mayors but still, it's a bit depressing that Matlow's not doing better in the whatever polls are being made public (even though it's still early)

Murgatroid, Monday, 8 May 2023 05:05 (eleven months ago) link

and yes, I know Matlow "plagiarized" his platform (i.e. his policy writer came from last year's Penalosa campaign and basically reused it) who fucking cares except a few people on Twitter who ended up being used by Nick Kouvalis and Ana Bailao good job y'all

Murgatroid, Monday, 8 May 2023 05:07 (eleven months ago) link

Matlow and Chow both seem fine and clearly several orders of magnitude better than my councillor, Bradford. Rest of the field seem like they’ll just roll over for Dougie. Or worse.

KPH, Monday, 8 May 2023 05:39 (eleven months ago) link

oh god, Bradford Bradford (that's his actual name, look it up), what a fucking clown, never seen a guy so transparently craven

Murgatroid, Monday, 8 May 2023 05:42 (eleven months ago) link

Saunders might be worse than Rob Ford and Tory combined, truly nightmare scenario mayor

Murgatroid, Monday, 8 May 2023 05:44 (eleven months ago) link

until tonight (when I just saw a video of Danielle Smith comparing the vaccinated to those following Hitler's orders), the video Saunders posted about naloxone might have been the most evil video I've seen in Canadian politics

sorry, so many thoughts about Toronto politics

Murgatroid, Monday, 8 May 2023 05:47 (eleven months ago) link

Vancouver mayors are pretty crap, but they'd be a lot worse if the entire Lower Mainland voted

symsymsym, Monday, 8 May 2023 14:58 (eleven months ago) link

three weeks pass...

Alberta election day is tomorrow; please send us sane vibes.

The land of dreams and endless remorse (hardcore dilettante), Monday, 29 May 2023 04:52 (ten months ago) link

As someone who moved out of AB years ago and who still has family and friends there, wishing you all the best but honestly expecting the worst from years of conditioning (living in AB)

Murgatroid, Monday, 29 May 2023 05:51 (ten months ago) link

it's just so great that it can get worse than Jason Kenney.

sending good vibes from BC

symsymsym, Monday, 29 May 2023 05:54 (ten months ago) link

Rachel Notley did threaten to cut off all our gas once, but y'know, bygones

symsymsym, Monday, 29 May 2023 06:07 (ten months ago) link

tbh I can barely muster up the enthusiasm to tell my family and friends to vote for the NDP - I know D. Smith is evil and blah blah blah etc but it's such a bummer to see how centrist the ANDP have gotten, I realize they have to pander to the O&G folks to win but most of them aren't going to vote for y'all anyway and you're alienating a large part of your core with your pipeline-fucking bullshit

Murgatroid, Monday, 29 May 2023 14:52 (ten months ago) link

why is it so slow

symsymsym, Tuesday, 30 May 2023 04:41 (ten months ago) link

I think Elections Alberta is using new tabulating technology and at some point, only 72 or something out of 250 machines were working

Or so I heard

Anyway lol lmao

Murgatroid, Tuesday, 30 May 2023 04:58 (ten months ago) link

As someone who moved out of AB years ago

As someone also in this position - 15+ years gone and no plans to move back - I'm surprised how annoyed I am at the result. Like, it shouldn't be much of my business by now, but I still care, I guess on behalf of friends and family who are still there.

salsa shark, Tuesday, 30 May 2023 17:09 (ten months ago) link

TO by-election lawn sign report: Biked from the Beaches to Port Credit and back this evening. Mostly Chow signs along with a hilarious amount of Gongs. Not too surprised to see Bradford signs south of Queen here as it’s his ward and all but also saw a goodly amount of Chow and a few Matlows (huzzah!). No Saunders anywhere, guessing he is focused elsewhere.

KPH, Sunday, 11 June 2023 03:41 (ten months ago) link

I was in North York a lot this past week cause my parents were in town and they decided to stay in that area (I was born and raised there), sorry for sounding like the typical downtown Torontonian but shit, that area might as well be a different city/country

barely any frontrunner signs except a few Bailao signs, mostly Gong and Heather He (who? and who????) signs

Murgatroid, Sunday, 11 June 2023 03:44 (ten months ago) link

two weeks pass...

Not our dude but I’m relieved when Bailao had the early lead, etc.

KPH, Tuesday, 27 June 2023 01:27 (nine months ago) link

Was closer than I expected.

FRAUDULENT STEAKS (The Cursed Return of the Dastardly Thermo Thinwall), Tuesday, 27 June 2023 04:53 (nine months ago) link

I'm gone, but glad to hear it.

clemenza, Tuesday, 27 June 2023 10:36 (nine months ago) link

Gong's 11th place finish (he must have had more signs on the streets than votes) leads me to wonder if he was running to increase general name recognition, perhaps business related.

Halfway there but for you, Tuesday, 27 June 2023 14:37 (nine months ago) link

one month passes...

I have nothing to say about this but: https://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/trudeau-gregoire-separation-1.6925254

rob, Wednesday, 2 August 2023 18:42 (eight months ago) link

one month passes...

absolutely HUGE news.

Every single political party in Canada admits that Indian state was involved in POLITICAL ASSASSINATION of Canadian-Sikh community leader Hardeep Singh Nijjar this summer.

Let that sink in, comrades. https://t.co/brMdtpBJj0

— Harsha Walia (@HarshaWalia) September 18, 2023

xyzzzz__, Tuesday, 19 September 2023 08:49 (seven months ago) link

reminding myself who Anthony Rota is: https://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/ndp-jagmeet-singh-rota-racist-therrien-1.5616661

rob, Monday, 25 September 2023 13:47 (six months ago) link

Canada right now: pic.twitter.com/HP10CKST7k

— The Leninist Lawyer ☭📕 🏳️‍🌈 🏳️‍⚧️ 🇵🇸 (@MarxistLaw) September 25, 2023

xyzzzz__, Tuesday, 26 September 2023 15:04 (six months ago) link

what's up Manitoba

symsymsym, Wednesday, 4 October 2023 02:49 (six months ago) link

Wab Kinew will become the first First Nations premier to lead a Canadian province!

A historic win for the Manitoba New Democratic Party! pic.twitter.com/TxIwTZODVe

— Khelsilem (@Khelsilem) October 4, 2023

symsymsym, Wednesday, 4 October 2023 04:22 (six months ago) link

two weeks pass...

Ontario lefties: I think I'm just done with electoral politics period after the ONDP kicked Sarah Jama out of caucus, absolutely livid at these spineless fucks

Murgatroid, Tuesday, 24 October 2023 18:51 (six months ago) link

three weeks pass...

I thought I maybe posted about this on this thread, but I guess not. Not sure where to put it--not politics, but a huge national story. They got a verdict today in the London hate-killing case.

https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/london/london-attack-guilty-verdict-1.7029754

clemenza, Friday, 17 November 2023 02:50 (five months ago) link


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