ILM's 2021 End of Year Tracks & Albums Poll / VOTING THREAD

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Are we allowed write-ins btw? Just thought of something I forgot to nominate. It's okay if it would be easier for you if I didn't

imago, Thursday, 6 January 2022 10:28 (two years ago) link

Goddamit I knew I shouldn’t have rushed it, there’s three tracks that I want to change from the ballot I submitted

✖✖✖ (Moka), Thursday, 6 January 2022 17:46 (two years ago) link

Playboi Carti - Whole Lotta Red

is on the album noms list but it placed in last year's poll iirc

rob, Thursday, 6 January 2022 18:16 (two years ago) link

iirc you can simply resubmit ballots if you're not happy, or if you discover things subsequently on the playlists

imago, Thursday, 6 January 2022 18:31 (two years ago) link

Mmm is it true? Can I resubmit a ballot?

✖✖✖ (Moka), Thursday, 6 January 2022 21:24 (two years ago) link

Voted.

Legalize Suburban Benches (Raymond Cummings), Friday, 7 January 2022 00:02 (two years ago) link

(And I didn't even get a stinkin' sticker)

Legalize Suburban Benches (Raymond Cummings), Friday, 7 January 2022 00:02 (two years ago) link

If you want to resubmit just enter a new ballot and post on this thread - I'll go in and delete the old ballot.

Vangelis fleadh (seandalai), Friday, 7 January 2022 02:31 (two years ago) link

Are we allowed write-ins btw? Just thought of something I forgot to nominate. It's okay if it would be easier for you if I didn't

― imago, Thursday, 6 January 2022 10:28 (yesterday) bookmarkflaglink

Write-ins are generally tolerated so long as everyone doesn't start relying on them and they don't come in close to the voting deadline.

Vangelis fleadh (seandalai), Friday, 7 January 2022 02:33 (two years ago) link

Hi - in my nomination, somehow I misspelled the artist name Raveena as Ravenna (for the track "Tweety") – and the misspelling carried over to the nomination spreadsheet. I'm doing my ballot now, and will copy & paste with the misspelling included (to avoid confusion). Sorry 'bout that.

i woke up alarmed (morrisp), Saturday, 8 January 2022 05:28 (two years ago) link

Can't believe this is the first year I haven't submitted a full albums ballot on account of I have heard literally 10 albums all the way through more than once.

Urbandn hope all ye who enter here (dog latin), Monday, 10 January 2022 18:10 (two years ago) link

I know it's clearly stated that you need to copy directly from the sheets, but just wanted to flag that this track has no space after the artist/before the hyphen, which feels like an invitation for some votes being missed.

arooj aftab- mohabbat

Indexed, Tuesday, 11 January 2022 19:30 (two years ago) link

It's on my ballot, so I guess we'll see.

Ⓓⓡ. (Johnny Fever), Wednesday, 12 January 2022 04:44 (two years ago) link

voted

oscar bravo, Thursday, 13 January 2022 14:51 (two years ago) link

650 more points in

Nabozo, Friday, 14 January 2022 18:36 (two years ago) link

Last week of voting - keep voting!

Vangelis fleadh (seandalai), Sunday, 16 January 2022 22:45 (two years ago) link

Voted

Jeff W, Monday, 17 January 2022 01:03 (two years ago) link

Last week of voting - keep voting!


I thought we could only vote once

rob, Monday, 17 January 2022 01:34 (two years ago) link

Voted!

Gavin, Leeds, Monday, 17 January 2022 10:24 (two years ago) link

I'm probably going to be right up against the deadline, just haven't been in the right frame of mind to finish up assembling my ballot, ugh.

emil.y, Monday, 17 January 2022 14:31 (two years ago) link

flagging that "Pa Salieu ft. Obonjayar - Style & Fashion" should be "Pa Salieu ft. Obongjayar - Style & Fashion"

roflrofl fight (voodoo chili), Tuesday, 18 January 2022 04:39 (two years ago) link

^^ just voted for this as is on the spreadsheet, but hoping this will be corrected come results time

roflrofl fight (voodoo chili), Wednesday, 19 January 2022 05:23 (two years ago) link

voted!

paolo, Wednesday, 19 January 2022 08:34 (two years ago) link

Voted! Weird year for me musically, didn't spend a huge amount of time with 2021 albums, but had no problem finding a bunch of tracks I liked enough to vote for. Made a last minute change to my number one album just because I happened to listen to it this morning.

silverfish, Wednesday, 19 January 2022 15:13 (two years ago) link

Thanks to everyone that's reporting corrections - I'll make sure the fixes show up as such in the results.

Vangelis fleadh (seandalai), Wednesday, 19 January 2022 16:42 (two years ago) link

Oh man, I have managed to listen to maybe 10% of the nominees -- I love voting in this but don't know if I'll manage it this year. What's the moral status of submitting a short ballot?

Guayaquil (eephus!), Wednesday, 19 January 2022 16:44 (two years ago) link

I'd say go for it. Personally, I like my ballot to reflect my year as I lived it, rather than attempting to do a comprehensive survey of all the unheard music and then judiciously selecting the "best" stuff. Obviously others here enjoy using the noms list for exploration, but I don't think that's the only way

rob, Wednesday, 19 January 2022 16:48 (two years ago) link

Likewise. If I vote, it will be a short albums-only ballot that will have zero impact on anything.

o. nate, Wednesday, 19 January 2022 16:57 (two years ago) link

The problem is, my year as I live it seldom involves very much or any new music, and my main way of interacting with what happened in a given year is listening to the ILX noms each January...

Guayaquil (eephus!), Wednesday, 19 January 2022 16:58 (two years ago) link

I re-sent my tracks ballot

Saxophone Of Futility (Michael B), Wednesday, 19 January 2022 17:21 (two years ago) link

procrastinating making my ballot. posting here in attempt to commit myself into making one today

flopson, Wednesday, 19 January 2022 17:28 (two years ago) link

I didn't get around to nominating so I'm sad not to see any of the following in the tracks list:

Arab Strap - Fable of the Urban Fox
Buke & Gase - Ancient Tool Gadget feat. So Percussion
GusGus - Stay the Ride
oddcouple - Reflections feat. Jamila Woods
Rebecca Ferguson and Nile Rodgers - No Words Needed
The Mountain Goats - Dark In Here
Tobe Nwigwe and Fat Nwigwe - FYE FYE
Tune-Yards - Hold Yourself
Tune-Yards - Hypnotize

castanuts (DJP), Wednesday, 19 January 2022 18:23 (two years ago) link

short ballot >>>> no ballot

Vangelis fleadh (seandalai), Thursday, 20 January 2022 00:03 (two years ago) link

so yes please vote!

Vangelis fleadh (seandalai), Thursday, 20 January 2022 00:04 (two years ago) link

diving in

Bee OK, Thursday, 20 January 2022 02:06 (two years ago) link

so that took about two an a half hours

Bee OK, Thursday, 20 January 2022 04:26 (two years ago) link

Voted

Bee OK, Thursday, 20 January 2022 04:26 (two years ago) link

Voted, albums only. Most of the music I listened to this year, even Bobbins-wise, was full records, didn't really pay attention to singles.

we need outrage! we need dicks!! (the table is the table), Thursday, 20 January 2022 18:10 (two years ago) link

How many ballots are in ?

Nabozo, Thursday, 20 January 2022 18:31 (two years ago) link

Hot damn, we’re almost there!

Legalize Suburban Benches (Raymond Cummings), Thursday, 20 January 2022 18:35 (two years ago) link

Voted!

Been away from ILX/ILM for the last 12 months for personal reasons but I won't miss being part of the 77 rollouts.

Thank you to all who make the upcoming fun happen X

lefal junglist platton (wtev), Thursday, 20 January 2022 21:10 (two years ago) link

does this end tonight or tomorrow night?

Muad'Doob (Moodles), Thursday, 20 January 2022 21:55 (two years ago) link

Tomorrow night hopefully, or I'm fucked. I read it as tomorrow night, anyway.

emil.y, Thursday, 20 January 2022 22:06 (two years ago) link

iiiit has to be tomorrow night riiiight?!

guys i love too much music

maf you one two (maffew12), Friday, 21 January 2022 00:45 (two years ago) link

I'm excited about this one

Urbandn hope all ye who enter here (dog latin), Friday, 21 January 2022 00:51 (two years ago) link

oh yeah i should vote in this

aegis philbin (crüt), Friday, 21 January 2022 02:41 (two years ago) link

Voted! Excited for next week!

kitchen person, Friday, 21 January 2022 02:46 (two years ago) link

voted

The sensual shock (Sund4r), Friday, 21 January 2022 05:05 (two years ago) link

at least managed to submit an ALBUMS ballot, we'll see if I can tackle tracks tomorrow

Muad'Doob (Moodles), Friday, 21 January 2022 05:39 (two years ago) link

Annual bitch that having to select just 25 tracks is inhumane

groovypanda, Friday, 21 January 2022 09:09 (two years ago) link

eh, thanks, I wasn’t fishing for that tho (mostly joking)

Rockin’, and rollin’, and whatnot (morrisp), Saturday, 22 January 2022 20:53 (two years ago) link

Sorry, I didn’t vote. I had like 5 albums to nominate and no tracks. Reflecting on that makes me feel bad that I didn’t have the energy or focus to investigate further for the sake of the poll or especially myself. Definitely lacking the energy to be cheerleader for the few albums I actually nominated. Maybe it’s these times we’re living in, or my obsession with older music. I’ll hopefully do better in the future.

― Evan, Saturday, 22 January 2022 18:16 (four hours ago) bookmarkflaglink

I definitely feel this. I've had a better pandemic than many others, but I can't remember a year when I was so disengaged from music and other interests...even the releases I liked were "more of the same". The only thing that felt new to me was a dive into solo Beatles albums - I'd never heard Ram, or Plastic Ono Band, or Ringo the Fourth before. When it was time to vote I was a bit stuck as to what to vote for.

Vangelis fleadh (seandalai), Saturday, 22 January 2022 23:08 (two years ago) link

Also means that everyone who voted has comparatively more influence than in previous years

― Nabozo, Saturday, January 22, 2022 2:12 PM

It means my picks are more likely to be pointed to as evidence of the board's decline into irrelevance and decrepitude.

Chris L, Sunday, 23 January 2022 14:47 (two years ago) link

Depends. We're all still waiting for Johnny Fever to announce that #1 Boys was a joke entry.

Nabozo, Sunday, 23 January 2022 17:07 (two years ago) link

fwiw, I've never voted in one of these *until* this year, and the only reason i felt compelled to do so is that my job kept me more tethered to a computer than I've been in years. Downtime at work? I'll investigate some music, download it, listen to it while working. Rinse, repeat, for 365 days— I listened to more new music this year than I have in almost any year in my adult life, saving a year or two of my time at uni.

we need outrage! we need dicks!! (the table is the table), Sunday, 23 January 2022 19:05 (two years ago) link

new music hits different imho

flopson, Sunday, 23 January 2022 19:53 (two years ago) link

Forks! I can rollout tracks results tomorrow no problem. The only day I might be m.i.a. for a couple of hours is Tuesday.

✖✖✖ (Moka), Monday, 24 January 2022 00:06 (two years ago) link

I suck at doing any sort of observations / jokes / reviews of the tracks, but if noone minds it I can do it.

✖✖✖ (Moka), Monday, 24 January 2022 00:08 (two years ago) link

guys! already talked to forks. He is running the tracks poll!

If you're anxious for results I could perhaps do the albums rollout next week (23-28) and forks will do tracks rollout on Jan. 31.

Or... we do it as we usually do... tracks first and then albums on Feb. 7.

✖✖✖ (Moka), Monday, 24 January 2022 02:02 (two years ago) link

i don't have a problem with albums first if you're fine with doing it that way

ufo, Monday, 24 January 2022 02:09 (two years ago) link

sounds good to me

flopson, Monday, 24 January 2022 02:22 (two years ago) link

Hold up. I'm still working on album images and we need to do base code/text.

Seems fairly simple but there's actually a lot of work behind the scenes! We'll stick to the usual schedule of tracks first, then albums. Better not to rush it!

✖✖✖ (Moka), Monday, 24 January 2022 03:58 (two years ago) link

It's worth it, though. I know I say this every year since I've been on the eoy team, but results are interesting! I don't know if my musical taste was very insular in 2021, but think this is the first year that I'm not acquainted with most of the tracks/albums that made it. I still haven't listened to the winners, I'll wait until the actual rollout to discover them.

✖✖✖ (Moka), Monday, 24 January 2022 04:03 (two years ago) link

I don't mind waiting a week. I don't expect more than a couple things I voted for to place anyway and I have no idea what the ILM hivemind even looks like anymore. At least there wasn't a 1975 album afaik.

We're all still waiting for Johnny Fever to announce that #1 Boys was a joke entry.

Come back in 2027. It's a ten year reveal.

Ⓓⓡ. (Johnny Fever), Monday, 24 January 2022 04:21 (two years ago) link

I expect Low will win the album poll in a cakewalk. Tracks I think is anyone's guess.

monotony, Monday, 24 January 2022 04:38 (two years ago) link

I didn't vote because I genuinely thought we had another week, boooo

boxedjoy, Monday, 24 January 2022 11:44 (two years ago) link

otoh i feel my selections were mostly pretty ilm hivemindey... and yet i didn't vote for Low. sorry Low

maf you one two (maffew12), Monday, 24 January 2022 12:26 (two years ago) link

Depends. We're all still waiting for Johnny Fever to announce that #1 Boys was a joke entry.

Otm

The sensual shock (Sund4r), Monday, 24 January 2022 12:45 (two years ago) link

I have nothing against Low but them winning again would be kind of a bummer. Does that album have its own thread? searching Low threads is a pain

rob, Monday, 24 January 2022 15:52 (two years ago) link

I'm torn. It would be a bummer for variety's sake, but it is a more interesting album than the one they won with the first time. Made my peace with it tbh

imago, Monday, 24 January 2022 15:56 (two years ago) link

xp I mean that Low record was one of the best of the year, if it wins, it deserves it.

octobeard, Monday, 24 January 2022 17:19 (two years ago) link

I had a really intense period of listening to Hey What when it came out and haven't really touched it since. It'll be interesting to see if the longevity is there.

I'm all about the Karima Walker album at the moment. I doubt it'll place but damn it's so beautiful.

Vanishing Point (Chinaski), Monday, 24 January 2022 17:21 (two years ago) link

I haven't heard Hey What. I have never quite warmed to Low and have given them many many chances, but I suppose I'll try it when it places. Anyway, I just meant what imago said: we've never had a repeat artist #1. OTOH I have zero idea what would be a more logical winner. It would also be a little disappointing if ILM simply ratified the FP/Pharaoh S record

No idea who/what Karima Walker is, will put that on now :)

rob, Monday, 24 January 2022 17:32 (two years ago) link

I love Low but didn't get around to this one - I feel like I already have so many albums of theirs that I love that I should wait until I'm properly feeling like I need a new one, rather than feeling pressured into listening just because it's new.

emil.y, Monday, 24 January 2022 17:38 (two years ago) link

I definitely feel this. I've had a better pandemic than many others, but I can't remember a year when I was so disengaged from music and other interests...even the releases I liked were "more of the same".

Yup - I bet many artists feel this too. Honestly it felt like this year was a relatively uninspiring year in music. Perhaps this is me projecting my ennui and despair and but I can't shake the feeling it also feels like 2021's music was the result of the degradation of conditions conducive for creativity and collaborative inspiration. The focus on old music feels like a nostalgic escapism that helps to distract us from the utterly disgusting and horrifying contemporary realities we live with atm

octobeard, Monday, 24 January 2022 17:56 (two years ago) link

imo, as someone who's tried to listen as exhaustively as possible since about 2014, it WAS a relatively weak year, yes - but there was still plenty of brilliance, as we'll hopefully ;) see

imago, Monday, 24 January 2022 17:59 (two years ago) link

we've never had a repeat artist #1.

kendrick won in 2015 and 2017 (and susanne sundfor was second both times too)

ufo, Monday, 24 January 2022 18:03 (two years ago) link

Ah, missed it. Thought it was 31st, too many polls to get my head around.

Dan Worsley, Monday, 24 January 2022 18:09 (two years ago) link

I still submitted a full ballot of 25 albums, there was indeed a lot of great stuff, but compared to years like 2018, where my entire top 10 felt like AOTY candidates and timeless classics (many of which I still listen to and inspire me), this year feels like a sigh.

octobeard, Monday, 24 January 2022 18:28 (two years ago) link

xp oh lol you're right ufo, not sure how I missed that

rob, Monday, 24 January 2022 18:48 (two years ago) link

this year was about as strong as ever for me and much better than 2017 and 2014 which were the two noticeably weaker years in recent times for me

ufo, Monday, 24 January 2022 18:58 (two years ago) link

For me it was one of the strongest year ever, but I also got a job registering music for a radio station, so I've spent seven hours listening to new music three days a week. Still, for the first time in a while it felt to me like new stuff was happening all over the place, in drill, footwork, hyperpop, hardcore, jazz, etc. If someone had told me last winter that I would be disappointed by the new music from Lorde, Lana Del Ray, Billie Eilish and St Vincent, yeah, I would have thought it would be a weak year too. But then different stuff made up for it.

Frederik B, Monday, 24 January 2022 19:33 (two years ago) link

I feel like I'm living on a different planet than many of you. I thought it was a great year for music, just perhaps not for pop music. Jazz, experimental, fusion, ambient— so many great records from these genres.

we need outrage! we need dicks!! (the table is the table), Saturday, 29 January 2022 15:53 (two years ago) link

Tbh a little mystifying to me, but i also pay *no* attention to pop music, and don't care to.

we need outrage! we need dicks!! (the table is the table), Saturday, 29 January 2022 15:53 (two years ago) link

Yeah, I also had a great year.

The sensual shock (Sund4r), Saturday, 29 January 2022 16:12 (two years ago) link

I almost admire the self-confidence to assert an entire calendar year was "bad for music." Maybe I should toughen up, but I tend to think it's my own taste or mood or a failure to pay attention to the right corner of the world that's the cause. It's tempting to conclude things like "rap no good now" but if I think about it more, I usually switch to "I'm not in sync with contemporary rap"

rob, Saturday, 29 January 2022 16:22 (two years ago) link

To me, my ballot felt relatively weaker than prior years, but I also think that there was a ton of really good music this year, just not so much truly great. So my top 10 felt weak compared to prior year but I bet my 100th favorite song was better than my 100th favorite song of any other year.

justfanoe (Greg Fanoe), Saturday, 29 January 2022 16:36 (two years ago) link

2019 and 2020 were hopeless for me, but I got back into things in the second half of 2021, and discovered loads of good stuff via the Hype thread and Tom Ewing's World Cup of 2021 polls. The areas of music which I Just Do Not Get have widened, but other areas have opened up, so it's all good.

mike t-diva, Saturday, 29 January 2022 17:05 (two years ago) link

for me it's 100% me being stuck in a rut, I'm sure there was awesome music but I didn't have the energy to seek it out

Vangelis fleadh (seandalai), Saturday, 29 January 2022 17:50 (two years ago) link

As a big "if you think there's no good music any more you're just not looking hard enough" person, I actually think the last couple of years are maybe the only time when one can validly complain about certain aspects of music being fallow. My ballots had almost no DIY guitar bands on, and this year I'm not sure if it's because I just wasn't in tune with the scene or if covid has made it too tough for that sort of band to get together and do stuff, and my (informed-by-experience) suspicion is that it's the latter.

emil.y, Saturday, 29 January 2022 17:58 (two years ago) link

And obviously certain scenes being fallow doesn't translate into a bad year *in general* for music, but it does mean that there's more of a chance of not being able to find exactly what you're looking for even if you are looking hard.

emil.y, Saturday, 29 January 2022 18:01 (two years ago) link

I think that makes sense, emil.y. The only guitar led band that I really loved this year was Ducks LTD.

we need outrage! we need dicks!! (the table is the table), Saturday, 29 January 2022 20:48 (two years ago) link


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