This some sad shit
― calstars, Wednesday, 5 January 2022 02:59 (two years ago) link
I spent so much time over there. Took a lot of pictures too because of rapidly accelerating Old Weird New York attrition awareness.
― (I'm Not Your) Steppin' Razor (James Redd and the Blecchs), Wednesday, 5 January 2022 03:30 (two years ago) link
https://www.nytimes.com/2022/01/09/nyregion/eric-adams-mother-photo.htmlAnyone have a photo like this ( in a brandy snifter?)
― calstars, Sunday, 9 January 2022 14:37 (two years ago) link
https://i.imgur.com/c7ewC1g.png
― calstars, Sunday, 9 January 2022 15:42 (two years ago) link
Coming to NYC this December, Airbnb for comfort, got to start saving (but it's always nice when you're looking forward to something). Doing XMAS, will probably come back before new year though. Hyped. Pandemic levels withstanding of course.
― Ste, Monday, 10 January 2022 11:58 (two years ago) link
Goodbye to the R32 subway car, 1964-2022.
The first stainless steel NYC subway car, and the last to have a front window for passengers.
Rest in scrap.
― Josefa, Monday, 10 January 2022 16:59 (two years ago) link
Oh no is that the car that runs on the A and C trains??? Are they going away? That's too bad, I love riding in the front car and looking out the window.
― Ima Gardener (in orbit), Monday, 10 January 2022 17:18 (two years ago) link
You're probably thinking of the R46 trains (orange seats). The R32s have grey seats.
The A/C line now I think is mainly R179 trains, which have blue seats.
― Josefa, Monday, 10 January 2022 17:34 (two years ago) link
no I think you're right, the R32s were used on the A,C,J, and Z lines
― Piven After Midnight (The Yellow Kid), Monday, 10 January 2022 18:06 (two years ago) link
Yeah on second thought you may be right, but when they last ran on the A/C lines I'm not clear on
― Josefa, Monday, 10 January 2022 18:17 (two years ago) link
wikipedia says: "With the R179 delivery completed, the R32s were gradually phased out until the last train made its final trip on the C on March 26, 2020."
― Piven After Midnight (The Yellow Kid), Monday, 10 January 2022 18:22 (two years ago) link
it's a bummer, but a long time coming - they were originally going to replace them years ago! I like to think I got the most enjoyment out of them that I could while they were around.
― chinavision!, Monday, 10 January 2022 18:44 (two years ago) link
Ah well that explains it, it was early covid and I wasn't in the city at the time. Pour one out for the R32 front window. I lived on the C from 2000-2003 and on the AC from 2011-present, so I got a good bit of use out of them.
― Ima Gardener (in orbit), Monday, 10 January 2022 18:46 (two years ago) link
yep I was definitely dreading the day, but at least was able to make peace with the pending loss. (though tbh, it's been awhile since I've ridden one now since I'm now firmly lodged up in the bronx.)
― chinavision!, Monday, 10 January 2022 19:00 (two years ago) link
ffs
As big-box retailers reduce their brick-and-mortar presence in New York City, an emerging class of tenants is proving to be just what the doctor ordered.https://t.co/hpvvMqTKTg— The Real Deal (@trdny) January 10, 2022
― mookieproof, Monday, 10 January 2022 19:13 (two years ago) link
can't wait til these close after the pandemic and become weed dispensaries
― roflrofl fight (voodoo chili), Monday, 10 January 2022 19:22 (two years ago) link
and / or walk-in gambling parlors like they have in the uk
They are all totally going to become dispensaries
― Its big ball chunky time (Jimmy The Mod Awaits The Return Of His Beloved), Monday, 10 January 2022 19:48 (two years ago) link
โAfter the pandemicโ
― calstars, Monday, 10 January 2022 22:05 (two years ago) link
15 minute groceries delivery joints.
― dan selzer, Monday, 10 January 2022 23:01 (two years ago) link
on a block near me THREE of these things opened side by side more or less simultaneously; they are all pretty much packed.
― i cannot help if you made yourself not funny (forksclovetofu), Tuesday, 11 January 2022 05:51 (two years ago) link
Well this is quite the proposalhttps://t.co/HMvZekXzzo pic.twitter.com/T1Ps2Od1YF— Samantha Maldonado (@sssmaldo) January 14, 2022
― ้พ, Friday, 14 January 2022 17:57 (two years ago) link
lol that's so terrible
― I Am Fribbulus (Xax) (Doctor Casino), Friday, 14 January 2022 18:04 (two years ago) link
Real Estate: They're not making any more of i...
― longtime caller, first time listener (man alive), Friday, 14 January 2022 18:07 (two years ago) link
it's good but they should do more
― ๐ ๐๐ข๐จ (caek), Friday, 14 January 2022 18:17 (two years ago) link
amateur hour compared to
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FJFHaW5X0AA4lLW?format=jpg&name=large
― mookieproof, Friday, 14 January 2022 18:18 (two years ago) link
oh wow, now i wanna read up on that.
― I Am Fribbulus (Xax) (Doctor Casino), Friday, 14 January 2022 18:19 (two years ago) link
I mean I don't know if that's a "good" idea or not. It's certainly an out there idea, and it seems so grandiose and expensive that I can't imagine it ever actually gets done.
― longtime caller, first time listener (man alive), Friday, 14 January 2022 18:23 (two years ago) link
USA!
― ๐ ๐๐ข๐จ (caek), Friday, 14 January 2022 18:27 (two years ago) link
should be a quick and easy job, definitely not worth looking at how well we're using our existing land
― chinavision!, Friday, 14 January 2022 18:47 (two years ago) link
Building new land in a tidal estuary is probably easier than dealing with that tbf
― ๐ ๐๐ข๐จ (caek), Friday, 14 January 2022 18:58 (two years ago) link
absorbing governor's island must be part of the government's "hammocks for all" initiative
― roflrofl fight (voodoo chili), Friday, 14 January 2022 19:03 (two years ago) link
I mean go for it I guess, it would be a good thing. I guess so much of new york seems just kind of underdeveloped and half empty when I walk around (not in manhattan)
― chinavision!, Friday, 14 January 2022 19:04 (two years ago) link
oh but an extension of a single local train plus a couple new g train stops is not gonna cut it
― chinavision!, Friday, 14 January 2022 19:09 (two years ago) link
i suppose the other argument for this is: you've got to do *something* to protect lower manhattan, so you may was well go for it.
― ๐ ๐๐ข๐จ (caek), Friday, 14 January 2022 19:15 (two years ago) link
it's not a totally insane move fwiw. most of the urban land in hong kong is on reclaimed land
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Land_reclamation_in_Hong_Kong
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/4/45/Hong_Kong_Reclamation_Map.png
― ้พ, Friday, 14 January 2022 19:28 (two years ago) link
huh, battery park city is in fact built on reclaimed land https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battery_Park_City
― ้พ, Friday, 14 January 2022 19:31 (two years ago) link
Battery park city was built on landfill
― calstars, Friday, 14 January 2022 19:40 (two years ago) link
land reclamation has a long worldwide history, for sure. but wasn't HK dealing with more fundamental issues finding available sites, due to much more dramatic topography and to the nearby border with the PRC? and doing reclamation like this at scale in NYC is basically impossible at this point; the last realized efforts of this kind were Waterside Plaza (which is a platform on steel piles) and Battery Park City (on landfill from the WTC excavations among other things). then after that comes the Westway scheme of the 70s and 80s; that got tanked for many reasons but the silver bullet was the new regulatory regime of environmental impact review. the effect of this project on marine habitats and the hydrology of the entire Hudson and harbor system would blow Westway out of the water (ha ha).
and would this scheme actually solve any problems at all? for once the comments on that NYT story are pretty decent - reading through the first 10-20 should start to give the contours of what could be wrong here. the main thing for me is would be unspeakably expensive and take forever, versus changing policy and infrastructure to resolve the given list of problems using land that already exists, and solutions that activists are already calling for. if you have the the trillions of dollars lying around to build vast new territory all over the harbor, then it sounds like you could just acquire land to build a bunch of new public housing, incentivize developers to build middle-income stuff (through Mitchell-Lama type programs, say), and run a bunch of new transit all over the place. instead, we have a boondoggle that, based on recent experience of things like Hudson Yards, would obviously be structured such that the tax base fronts a huge amount of the cost (or at least the financial risk), while the benefits accrue to the developers of the skyscrapers and luxury condos that would actually get built here.
― I Am Fribbulus (Xax) (Doctor Casino), Friday, 14 January 2022 19:49 (two years ago) link
people maybe forget how many single family housing-based neighborhoods there are in nyc outside of manhattan too? just loads of car dependent low density places. plus loads of no-longer-super-useful declining post-industrial sites (some which would be expensive to clean up, to be sure).
I can find you 200 acres of useless golf course in the southeast bronx for starters.
― chinavision!, Friday, 14 January 2022 20:07 (two years ago) link
oh haha that's built on a garbage landfill, I dunno if that works so well for housing then
― chinavision!, Friday, 14 January 2022 20:11 (two years ago) link
I've often talked about how surprisingly busy light industry is around east williamsburg, woodside, maspeth etc, small companies needing to be on the island and have warehouse space but close to manhattan. Many are "Industrial Business Zones" which makes sense and there should be more cheap industrial spaces where there's a desire. But maybe it's the pandemic but even just before I started seeing them empty out. Big printers and other firms. Huge empty buildings on an industrial street just adjacent to very nice residential Woodside here where I live. I'd love to see some of these broken up for affordable small industry or replaced with apts for affordable apts but they're likely just going to sit empty aren't they.
― dan selzer, Friday, 14 January 2022 20:14 (two years ago) link
now they are used for underground super speeder events parties
― (โขฬชโ) (carne asada), Friday, 14 January 2022 20:19 (two years ago) link
spreader*
― (โขฬชโ) (carne asada), Friday, 14 January 2022 20:20 (two years ago) link
stoked for when greenpoint/east williamsburg is designated a superfund site https://cumulis.epa.gov/supercpad/cursites/csitinfo.cfm?id=0203407
(tbf, it's not the waterfront part it's the industrial part further in)
― ้พ, Friday, 14 January 2022 20:42 (two years ago) link
Hey Chinese character, where do you live?
― calstars, Friday, 14 January 2022 20:49 (two years ago) link
industrial maspeth sucks for public transportation but i know artist types in ridgewood who have studios there, easy bike ride. rust avenue is a wonderland.
this is a very enjoyable book about the history of landfill and building thereon in NYC, like all of laguardia and jfk are manmade land, plus most of lower manhattan.
― adam, Friday, 14 January 2022 20:49 (two years ago) link
Meeker Ave Plume is where my printshop was for a few years. Don't worry, my contribution was minor. It was also the site of the Xi'an Famous Foods factory/warehouse. Which later moved to Woodside. And is on the same block as my current printshop/office is. I walk 10 minutes to work, first I pass a halal live poultry slaughterhouse. Then I pass Xi'An. The smells can be a real trip.
― dan selzer, Friday, 14 January 2022 20:53 (two years ago) link
Xiโan is good shit
― calstars, Friday, 14 January 2022 21:19 (two years ago) link
OMG DAYO!!!!Missed you hereโI was gonna put you on ILX Milk Carton (again)
― mom tossed in kimchee (quincie), Friday, 14 January 2022 21:33 (two years ago) link