golden state warriors thread

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of which your interceding post demonstrates an astute understanding

the problem with stats isnt so much a problem with stats as it is a problem with philosophy

anyway rudy gobert the player in which the jazz scheme is largely built around is easily exploited by any good team with then motivation to, maybe some day lottery balls with drop from heaven and change this fact, but probably not

the best teams tend to do better in the playoffs but the teams in the east have kevin durant and the giannis this is an important thing to remember

the playoffs are a different game is something that is said often but unlike many axioms its also true

anyway rudy gobert the player in which the jazz scheme is largely built around is easily exploited by any good team with then motivation to, maybe some day lottery balls with drop from heaven and change this fact, but probably not

― lag∞n, Tuesday, January 4, 2022 3:32 PM (three minutes ago)

also they can't defend the perimeter at all it's actually quite a bad way to build a team for the playoffs can't just have guys knifing into the paint at will 50 times per game

it wouldn't shock me if the jazz came out of the west especially depending on how injuries shake out. but i don't think they can beat the bucks or the nets they just don't have the high end talent, imo, and are too exploitable based on how they're constructed, think that would be a pretty clean finals for either of the east teams

upgrading their perimeter defensive talent would definitely help but part of the problem there does imo go back to gobert in that in the modern game you want a center who has the ability to rotate out to the perimeter and gobert does not so they built this old fashioned D where everything is funneled to him in the paint which teams can render inoperative by going small, then as weve discussed they dont even have the strategic counter of gobert taking advantage of a small team by dunking on them on the other end since he has zero ball skills

the funny thing about the money ball nba era with all the high variance hoisting where over matched teams have a prayer is dunks are still dunks baby, shots that you shoot 99% on are very low variance, start letting teams get to the rim and you could play a hundred series and never win

stats guy: a bounce here and bounce there can swing a series between what are ultimately teams with razor thin edges

me: the famous basketball rim is soul death for defense

the jazz are basically a very nice sports car you only can drive in good conditions and they have an additional problem which is that there are almost no improvement candidates on their roster. donovan mitchell has been having basically the same season for a couple years now.

mitchell could still improve or just have a great year and theyd still need to solve the gobert problem which is unsolvable

prob the best approach to the gobert problem is to surround him with great dynamic defenders but unfortunately the jazz are very far from that

mitchell doesn't need to have better years than he's having for them to get high seeds. they're made to punish bad teams and collect regular season wins. and it could still work for a playoff run too with some health, matchup luck, a mitchell hot streak, etc. but they haven't made it easy on themselves by going all-in on very specific ways of playing offense and defense.

if they were to somehow draw four rounds of opponents decimated by injuries it wouldnt even count imo, much like the lakers bubble championship

ben simmons for conley/ingles works in the machine

i think ultimately we can look at this through the lens of karma, having one of your main guys not be able to do anything good with the basketball summons cursed vibes

the celtics were spared this hex via bill russell being a great outlet passer, and from all that happening in the beforetime

also he started the corona virus xp

otm

simmons and gobert offense is a nightmare concept

the jazz *do* have a player in mitchell who can score against loaded up playoff defenses making crazy contested shots and can get to the rim/foul line. that's not nothing... he shot 43% on 11.5 threes per game last playoffs. the issue to me is that he's still not better at that than steph or booker, so even at the high end they get trumped by the dubs and suns, and those other teams are better constructed and more malleable than the jazz. they're in a tier below the suns and dubs for me who are prob in a tier below the east teams

https://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/32994009/perfect-fit-us-golden-state-warriors-reclamation-former-no-1-pick-andrew-wiggins

Thanks for posting that :)

klay back 2moro

After 941 days away from game, Warriors’ Klay Thompson announces he will make season debut Sunday against the Cavaliers in the Bay Area. https://t.co/3M9nORJXcL

— Shams Charania (@ShamsCharania) January 8, 2022

bless

I didn't find out til today that he actually uses his boat to get to and from Chase Center.

Clearing my schedule. Also, got more dubs tix for 1/20 (a friend's school had a block for a fundraiser)! Looking forward to some balling.

The most underrated klay moment by far

pic.twitter.com/ancICb1OHl

— Jared Gross (@jaredmgross) January 8, 2022

lmao

nice article on Klay & getting through rehab ... hyped to see him play again

https://www.sfchronicle.com/sports/warriors/article/He-never-gave-up-How-Klay-Thompson-endured-16760192.php

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Welcome back Klay. He didn’t look too rusty. In fact looked pretty damn good. Dunks, 3s, defense…

Yah looked pretty sharp. Didn’t look to pass once lol

"they pay me to shoot"

Apparently Kerr drew up that first play for Klay to kick it out but he took the shot anyway.

of course haha

dubs going through a tough stretch and got the bucks n bulls up next. need dray back asap and/or curry to snap out of it.

klay looks pretty good all thing considered. Iggy looks considerably more cooked since coming back from injury. GP2 should probably be playing 30 minutes per game honestly.

but perspective if you woulda said to me last year that 40 games into the season they'd be 30-10 with klay just coming back i'd take that any day.

idk feel like it could be a good time to ease back work klay in get guys rest, and maybe if they lose some games management will make a trade

in fact i think kerr and the team should engage in a conspiracy of losing for this purpose

thye should def take it easy. they proved theyre still a contender and now just need to get right for the playoffs and get dray/klay/curry used to playing together again

yeah theyve had their foot on the gas all season

they should still try to get one of indys guys for wiseman tho

wiseman has to show something first he has pretty much zero value rn. and if he does show something then joey lightyears isnt trading him no way in hell

i would trade for wiseman

big rob? sounds good

lol rob would be nice for the warriors

Yes

Think Steph might need a meditation retreat. Vow of silence for a week type thing.