Star Trek Discovery: The Bryan Fuller TV reboot

yeah this was a pretty decent episode
always glad when ole d-crone pops up

...and it's back to cringe. That slow clap scene...

Did I spot a Ferengi in this ep? He had pointed ears though which was odd.

"I feel seen" - the writing is just embarrassingly bad

like i must say that i genuinely enjoy watching this show but part of that enjoyment is based on laughing at the dumb bits - and the computer saying “i feel seen” was probably the pick of this one for me

i think of myself as a sensitive respectful individual but there is something about the way this show “does” “feelings” that makes me feel like a grouchy right-wing knuckle-dragger

It's clumsy and unnatural. Instead of the sentient AI just steadily becoming part of the crew until they realize "oh shit, it's a being" they make it a stilted B-plot and finish up by telling instead of showing with the "I feel seen."

I’m pretty sure that was a Ferengi in the Federation vote, and possibly another one who was tending bar at some point.

first ep back after season break was pretty enjoyable! only one “you got this” & it wasnt even bc someone was sad

really liked the makeup on the mac tonight/ max-headroom-looking broker

I kept thinking of G'Kar from B5. It felt like there were loads of older Trek refs in this ep which made me realise how little of that Disco has been doing.

Some ferengis in the background, a shapshifter (who turned into a tribble, lol), payment with gold pressed latinum, and I think one camera pan went past an alien who looked the same as Morn from the DS9 bar. I'm sure there was more.

yeah there def was a lot!

i also liked “Oh Wow” and her fight scene, also felt very old Trek, like a scheme dreamed up by jim & bones

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FLpjynpXIAgeX0A?format=jpg&name=small

sad to sour the generally posi vibes here but i found the first ep back lame & snoozy esp for a mid-season premiere or whatever -

but most recent one was ok? like, pleasingly overwrought i would say. the DSP or whatever is a pretty soft focus Season Threat tho - I want to be feeling v’ger/voyage home probe levels of unknowable cosmic power vibes but it just isn’t landing - although this ep kind of felt like it was building to something i guess? but hard to get real excited about this season, bring back that nutso Disco energy, it was weird but at least it was something

also lol at returning character reveal that leaves me squinting and going “oh yeah i kind of remember that person?” - the second-tier characters are so epically under-written on this show, it is kind of avant garde - like the shuttlecraft spat between beard guy and non-beard guy - I kind of blank as soon as they start talking, because you know it’s an anaemic fifth-priority subplot that will be resolved with no consequences

ok i have thought too much now about this dumb show that i still watch and like

new episode bugged me a little bc the mirroring of Michaels situation on her ship & Bookers situation on his ship like do u seee every 5 minutes ughhhhh WE GET IT

but fine otherwise

absurd that they didn’t open fire

hate it when the needs of the many are outweighed by the needs of this one guy people find likeable

am I going crazy or did they not try to explain to Book the crucial plot point they uncovered at the end of the prior episode about what the device was

i thought they mentioned they’d sent him the info and then there was a bit of dialogue where he said “that’s interesting but if doesn’t make any difference”

yeah, they did

i have no faith that they'll wrap it up well, but i do respect the turn they've taken with this species 10c. there are good storytelling reasons why humans/vulcans/klingons/romulans/etc. have more or less the same level of technology, but they really should have been running into civilizations that are much more advanced -- and not necessarily friendly -- way more often. (and without turning them into easily thwarted clowns, as voyager did with the borg.)

I think I have a pretty low tolerance for characters acting well below real-life stupidity as a cheap and easy way to raise the stakes and dramatic tension, so I have yet to finish the second episode back.

this last one was all about everyone's feelings again

tbh i just want a show about kovach; everyone else (except grudge) can fuck off

star trek: therapy

i had so hoped we’d moved on from all these fucking feeelings uuuuuugh

I wonder if Species 10C (?) have feelings

Maybe the series is gonna be resolved by Discovery telling them all about feelings for the first time and they’ll feel so fuckin seen that they’ll call off the DMA and do yoga together

I didn’t mind this ep

(but lol at the “Saru’s farewell to beard guy” scene, I couldn’t even remember what his position was - I guess maybe the actor took a break and it was just housekeeping but honestly these guys are so anonymous that it would have been better to just handwave the crew change with one line of dialogue)

that was either reese or bryce iirc. happily, removing one of them means they can no longer have made-up disagreements about strategy

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cf9RU3ykbY0

this fuckin show swear to god

oh i forgot that i watched it

cool so turns out that species 10c love their children too, what a relief that they weren't an unknowable cosmic horror with motives beyond human comprehension because that woulda been a bit interesting

ok so next week i guess they have to work out a way to convert human feelings into fairy dust, then pack it all into a photon torpedo of emotion and fire it into the heart of the CGI thing

then everyone will feel seen and we can finish a season that never really felt like it started

in ni'var and cardassia
there's a growing feeling of hysteria
conditioned to respond to all the threats
ruon tarka pours out for paul stamets
'this dma will bury you'
i don't subscribe to this point of view
but what might save us, me and you
is that the 10c love their children too

the off world background art was really cool
, is one thing i liked abt this ep

lol mookie

also lol

So Q is still a thing in Picard. Why cant he just pop in here and fuckin fix this crap.

The IMDB user scores for these recent episodes are absolutely brutal.

Are they deserved or is it a woke reactionary type thing?

if you look at imdb user ratings you’re going to get exactly what you’re looking for, in my experience

IMDB is bizarrely anti-woke/anti-SJW/anti-anything not white male nerd. They will EVISCERATE any show that big-ups women, POC, assault victims, sci fi shows not using all wite ppl etc. Like to the point where I feel like there's brigading going on?

Buuuut... I think that last ep's rating is probably deserved.

as probably mentioned upthread, i try and be a painstakingly respectful and humble human but there is something about the scripting of this show that makes me feel like a cranky conservative asshole, maybe this is the true magic of star trek

right!? i was complaing to mr veg last week about how the fuck do they get ~anything~ done or achieve any objectives as part of starfleet when they’re constantly talking out their feelings on every single decision!? i felt like a cranky old boomer lmao

but in my defense: FFS

just thinking of old episodes where
“they communicate.. through emotions?”
kirk fucks something
picard grimaces a lot, data gives his weird non-emotional android thing, they act with egalitarian aplomb
janeway appoints a team to figure out emotions, they all fight and come to halfassed consensus
sisko boldly acts emotionally
idk whatever bakula was, they do something but a plot device from some showrunner fucks them

yesterday I got halfway through a bitchy post about how Discovery can be at red alert with shaky camera and smoke and blood on the bridge and an assailant relentlessly hurling crackling death energy at a terrified crew... then Burnham will say "Saru, a moment?" and they'll jump cut to the ready room where everything is soft focus and ferns and water features, and Michael and Saru gently touch each other's upper forearms and express their appreciation for togetherness at this difficult time

then I felt unkind and didn't post the post but I'm posting it now because GEEZ sometimes its like the show is its own SNL Parody (if anyone cared enough about this show to parody it)

heh should have mentioned i did quite enjoy this episode! altho can’t help thinking that s1-s2 gonzo discovery would have got here by about ep 4 and spent 3 eps hallucinating inside 10-C’s hyperstructure before undergoing a shocking paradigm shift that changed everything, with Detmer revealed to be the borg queen

that moment where Michael & Saru have their yelling therapy moment in the middle of idk diplomatic negotiations? idk idk but omg it just about brought me to full red mist like are you fucking kidding me with this fucking shit

ha yeah and Saru fretting about getting laid with 4 hours left til the destruction of the universe… actually when i put it like that maybe it seems reasonable

lmao

i guess yelling scenes are necessary when the pacing is so s l o w

i mean it took them a whole episode just to get through the galactic barrier! this flash, i love you but we only have 48 hours to save the earth mission is going to be fully half the season

also way too much time spent on tarka, and book being endlessly stupid about tarka, but, you know, ~grieving~

yeah otm re book, hes been charlie brown footballed by tarka the whole fkn time

and deep eternal eyerolls over this fkn emotion based math language i am so over it all yet here i am watching bc it might get good again 😬

tbh i like the language stuff even if it's ripped straight out of arrival. it beats the endless aliens who are just humans with weird nose wrinkles or whatever

true

i found the language stuff irritating bc it all seemed to meaningless handwavery but i was in a bad mood by then anyway

have not seen this in a while is tarka an otter?

to a species as technologically advanced as the 10C, we must all seem like otters

(but, sadly, no he is not)

he is however a weasel

:D

lol v.good!

I haven't felt compelled to pick this back up especially now that Picard might possibly be watchable -- seems like it's a justifiable choice!