Bonfires In The Sky: What Are You Reading, Winter 2021-22?

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I know, I feel it: I'm gonna have to finally read Portis pretty soon---where should I start w the novels? How's the collection?

Dog of the South or maybe Norwood. Dipped a toe into the collection once but couldn’t really tell you. #pvmic

Santa’s Got a Brand New Pigbag (James Redd and the Blecchs), Sunday, 26 December 2021 00:44 (two years ago) link

Thanks! What does #pvmic signify?
Good point about xpost Stanford experiment, although "caste" seems right re American system, on the face of it.

dow, Sunday, 26 December 2021 01:19 (two years ago) link

The Beehive, Camilo José Cela - A Madrid neighbourhood bar circa WWII, its employees and regulars all close to financial ruin but holding on tight to their class status. A lot of talk of good customs, a lot of pettiness, a general rottenness to mirror that of the country and the times. Haven't read a book that's felt this consistently dirty, not in a lascivious way but in the sense that it makes ya want to wash your hands after reading, since Under The Volcano.

Daniel_Rf, Sunday, 26 December 2021 17:56 (two years ago) link

#pvmic means “post very much in character”

Heatmiserlou (James Redd and the Blecchs), Sunday, 26 December 2021 18:01 (two years ago) link

Johann Grimmelhausen - Simplicissimus

One of the classics of Europen Literature, although it hasn't had the work done in English that Rabelais or Cervantes have had. Like Boccaccio it takes an awful event (Thirty Years War as oposed to the Plague) as a starting point for our hero's adventures, using his eye to glimpse at every little bit of what we do: our capacities for destruction, love, friendship, knowledge, etc. I love reading it for the beginning of the novel, how characters and their myhtologies come into being in chapters and then more often than not disappear in mere sentences (the technique is so different). How it veers from a brutal realism to the fantastical last section. Its descriptions of vice and virtue and the ramdomness of encounter and event, and its wide reading of classical literature as a source of all, regurgitated and re-written for readerly pleasure. Just some of the content in this great book.

xyzzzz__, Sunday, 26 December 2021 21:58 (two years ago) link

The Beehive, Camilo José Cela

A new translation is forthcoming via NYRB classics in Autumn '22. Apparently the old one cut some of the dirty stuff out!

xyzzzz__, Sunday, 26 December 2021 22:38 (two years ago) link

One of the classics of Europen Literature, although it hasn't had the work done in English that Rabelais or Cervantes have had.
What translation should we look for? Your description is v. appealing, thanks!

dow, Monday, 27 December 2021 02:41 (two years ago) link

Just saw on the other thread that you said you read the translation by Mike Mitchell.

dow, Monday, 27 December 2021 02:49 (two years ago) link

Johann Grimmelhausen - Simplicissimus

I've been wanting to read this for a while. Maybe 2022 will be the year. Currently I'm reading Fog by Miguel de Unamuno, translated by Elena Barcia, an early Modernist Spanish novel first published in 1914. I'm a fan of his philosophical writings so giving the fiction a try.

o. nate, Monday, 27 December 2021 15:50 (two years ago) link

xxxxpost what first got me interested in readingAlways Crashing in the Same Car: On Art, Crisis, and Los Angeles, California, by Matthew Specktor
Tin House Books
: his comments here about Dream Syndicate in context of early 80s L.A.:https://saveyourface.posthaven.com/the-dream-syndicate-live-1982-1983 And the link to his DS live comp still works; I just now used it again.

dow, Monday, 27 December 2021 19:14 (two years ago) link

Specktor wrote the intro to the Eve Babitz collection I'm reading.

So who you gonna call? The martini police (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 27 December 2021 19:19 (two years ago) link

I’ve mentioned this before but if you want a book where Simplicissimus is both a recurring plot point and thematic touchstone (and many reasonably do not want that at all, fair) then perfect spy by John le carre is reet good.

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Monday, 27 December 2021 21:01 (two years ago) link

i did end up rereading harriet the spy bc of the previous thread, and will at some point next year read the long secret, but i just wanted to say that i still am delighted by this book (which i read more than once as a kid but haven’t picked up since, and also i was obsessed with the nickelodeon adaptation, which is, iirc, more faithful than you’d expect) and that it’s got the worst goodreads page of all time

STOCK FIST-PUMPER BRAD (BradNelson), Tuesday, 28 December 2021 00:05 (two years ago) link

Ann Wroe: SIX FACETS OF LIGHT (2016).

Paul McCartney: THE LYRICS (2021).

the pinefox, Thursday, 30 December 2021 09:56 (two years ago) link

I've never tasted an egg cream, I'm sorry to say.

So who you gonna call? The martini police (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 30 December 2021 10:38 (two years ago) link

Not missing much.

Heatmiserlou (James Redd and the Blecchs), Thursday, 30 December 2021 13:03 (two years ago) link

How do you like Eve Babitz so far?

Heatmiserlou (James Redd and the Blecchs), Thursday, 30 December 2021 13:04 (two years ago) link

Does anyone have book plans for 2022?

My main resolution is: more short books. I'm going to take a break from long fantasy series. That's been a lot of my reading during COVID. They've been really good distractions, and helped me avoid being online too much, but the sunk-cost of a long series can also feel like an obligation.

I’m also thinking that I want to read mainly non-fiction, specifically along the lines of memoirs, travelogues, diaries, letters, stuff like that. I have Patrick Leigh Fermor's Between the Woods and the Water and Laurie Lee's Cider with Rosie to kick things off.

jmm, Saturday, 1 January 2022 17:45 (two years ago) link

While waiting for my dog at the vet— she's okay, seems like a UTI— I finished Warner's 'The Corner That Held Them' this morning. Great book, and the bits of wit that Chinaski mentions sneak up on the reader so that they're really quite hilarious. I admit that there were moments where I got my nuns confused, but I learned to care for some of them as characters nonetheless. I also loved Sir Ralph.

we need outrage! we need dicks!! (the table is the table), Saturday, 1 January 2022 17:54 (two years ago) link

I have set myself up with a bunch of books taht I ordered from the library as inter library loans so have like 8 already set up to arrive at some point. Picked up 3 yesterday. A load of anti racism stuff plus on eof teh books by Noma Agrawal who was on one of teh teams in the Xmas University Challenge . I thought she might be the same person as wrote Sway but foun dout her work is more in explaining how buildings are built as popular science and so on.

Bought so many books over teh last year that I want to read like immediately and obviously can't. Cover a load of different subjects.
But next couple are probably goiing to be teh ones I got from my Brother for Xmas. The iNconvenient Indian by Thomas King and Surviving Genocide by Jeffrey Ostler which are both Native American history related.
Also Carl Sagan Demon haunted world, Thinking Fast & Slow by Daniel Kahneman.

Started reading Gentlemen prefer Blondes by Anita Loos which was one of the library books
& the History of The White people By Nell Irvin panter which i got through the first chapter of this morning

Also got The iNvention of teh White Race by Theodore W Allen which i bought a couple of months back when verso was selling books at 1/3 off and had heard of possibly on here about 3 or 4 years ago.
So yeah got a stack of things i have planned to read and will hopefully get to reasonably soon .
& will probably pick up others as I go.

Stevolende, Saturday, 1 January 2022 17:59 (two years ago) link

I finished Harriet the Spy last night (first read, no idea why I'd never read it before!) and will start The Corner That Held Them today. I read a lot of ADHD, PTSD, and vagus nerve/polyvagal theory books last year. Will be interesting to see what path my nonfiction reads follow in 2022.

Jaq, Saturday, 1 January 2022 18:26 (two years ago) link

> Does anyone have book plans for 2022?

Gibson's bridge trilogy in january
More Hardy in february, probably Mayor of Casterbridge
Start, at least, a long foreign thing in March, maybe Stalingrad?
April = Dickens
all four ali smith seasons books sometime

koogs, Saturday, 1 January 2022 19:18 (two years ago) link

Plans: going to jump on the Harriet the Spy and The Corner that Held Them bandwagons, The Count of Monte Cristo, Rachel Cusk's new one, re-read The Dispossessed, one Dickens, one Henry James, one Edith Wharton, one Woolf. I'm going to try and buy more real (not e) books, if the rumours of a new local independent bookshop are true.

two sleeps till brooklyn (ledge), Saturday, 1 January 2022 21:39 (two years ago) link

don quixote

no lime tangier, Saturday, 1 January 2022 21:50 (two years ago) link

plans as of now:

More Clark Coolidge, and I think that at some point, I want to try Anna Karenina, which I have not read.

we need outrage! we need dicks!! (the table is the table), Saturday, 1 January 2022 23:11 (two years ago) link

Also, I just finished Clark Coolidge's 'Melancolia,' a vanishingly scarce chapbook that a pal gave me as a gift, which is what has spurred on my desire to read more Coolidge. Last year, I read a collection of a few of his longer books, 'Solution Passage,' and it blew my mind but cashed me out on him for the year— 300+ pages of very dense poetry by one person, and a break is sometimes necessary. Ready to dive back in.

we need outrage! we need dicks!! (the table is the table), Saturday, 1 January 2022 23:13 (two years ago) link

i don't care what anyone says, i think anna karenina is a good book.

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Saturday, 1 January 2022 23:29 (two years ago) link

i read it a couple of years ago and it might look long but it's 8 parts of about 100-150 pages each and was no trouble.

koogs, Sunday, 2 January 2022 04:08 (two years ago) link

As soon as I finish the second two books of The Book of the New Sun series, I'll be starting Against the Day, which be take me the rest of the year I imagine.

ma dmac's fury road (PBKR), Sunday, 2 January 2022 12:17 (two years ago) link

JUst finished Jane Jacobs The Life And Death of Great American cities and think I will be looking out for more.
Wondering if i have missed copies of her work over the years without having noticed. I think I need to make an authors list for browsing charity shops.

Stevolende, Sunday, 2 January 2022 13:19 (two years ago) link

is there a consensus on the best version of anna karenina to read?

starting the new year with one fiction and one non:
aimez-vous brahms? -- françoise sagan
the first four georges -- j. h. plumb

(The Other) J.D. (J.D.), Sunday, 2 January 2022 18:17 (two years ago) link

I've been distracted and lazy lately, so my progress on House of Mirth has been spotty and slow. It has enough melodrama to cater to the tastes and demands of a 1905 audience, but Wharton is so scrupulous about her characters and their motives that it has far more depth than is normal with such a plot. Also, unlike pure melodrama which always has a hero and heroine, the nearest approach to a decent human being in this book is an ancillary character.

more difficult than I look (Aimless), Sunday, 2 January 2022 18:31 (two years ago) link

Decided to start Mason & Dixon today. Let's see how that goes.

Chris L, Monday, 3 January 2022 01:07 (two years ago) link

Realised last night that I had house of mirth and a couple of companions sitting on the table. Must read some this year.

Stevolende, Monday, 3 January 2022 07:18 (two years ago) link

Back to Brecht on Caesar.

the pinefox, Monday, 3 January 2022 18:53 (two years ago) link

Earthlings, Sayaka Murata - As in Convenience Store Woman, the protagonist of this is a woman confused and frustrated by society's insistence on trying to force her into a life trajectory, in terms of career advancement and marriage. But society is considerably more scarring here - the protagonist is subjected to emotional and sexual abuse - and fittingly her attempts to escape its clutches are far more radical. Things get really grotesque by the ending, which could be Murata reacting to CSW's international best seller status by going "oh yeah? well see if you can enjoy THIS", though of course there's also a long tradition of this kind of grotesquerie in Japanese literature (Tanezaki) and cinema (Takashi Miike could do the film version). A hell of a trip, either way.

Captains Of The Sands, Jorge Amado - Amado kept showing up in my end of year polls and considering that I've read almost no Brazilian literature I figured I should at least dip my toe into its biggest beast. These are chronicles of the lives of a group of homeless kid criminals in Bahia; considering it was written in 1937, I'm surprised by how hard edged and explicit it gets, totally in line with modern films on the subject like Pixote. As in that film, there are clear references to homosexuality, and while it is portrayed as a vice, it's just another one that the kids indulge in alongside purse snatching, knife fights, etc. and justified along the same "society is to blame" lines. It's pretty amusing/depressing that when the (well intentioned, inefficient) priest tries to get the kids to stop engaging in buggery on moral grounds they just laugh at him but when he changes tacks and says that it is "womanly and not worthy of a grown man" the leader immediately forbids it. Also always fascinated by the fluidity of religion in Brazil - some of the kids are catholic, some believe in African orishas, some combine the two integrating European saints into an African pantheon. I'm about two thirds in, right now a pandemic has hit Bahia (inescapable!), and it is described as an African god unleashing his wrath on the rich inhabitants of the city, but alas they are vaccinated, how could the god have known of that? And so the plague hits the shanty towns instead.

Daniel_Rf, Tuesday, 4 January 2022 10:00 (two years ago) link

Janet Malcolm - In the Freud Archives.

So who you gonna call? The martini police (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 4 January 2022 11:09 (two years ago) link

i read clark coolidge's 'the crystal text' a couple of years ago which i liked a lot. i should read more. i have a copy of a book of his called 'space' that looks good

i got andrew durbin's 'skyland' for christmas and managed to read most of it at my in-laws while they watched rugby and then finished it the other day. very enjoyable little book - perhaps it has some of the issues in contemporary fiction that i usually don't care for - blankness of the protagonist and their relationship to place, history, nature - but this was breezy enough to get away with them and with just enough grit in there to offset some of its more indulgent sections (the basic plot is the protagonist goes to a remote greek island in search of a portrait - which might not exist - of hervé guibert)

i also got the duras collection 'me and other writing' which i've only dipped into, and don mee choi 'hardly war', which i haven't quite been in the mood for yet

i finished alison rumfitt's 'tell me i'm worthless' and i can't understand all the plaudits this is getting (i've seen people calling it a state of the nation novel about britain, or about england specifically - i mean, everyone knows england is terrible, i don't need to read a novel to tell me that, or at least i felt like this novel never got much beyond just telling me it's terrible). a lot of it seemed sloppily written and uneven, some appealing moments and some insight, but overall a miss for me

dogs, Tuesday, 4 January 2022 12:38 (two years ago) link

Coolidge is a GOAT as far as I'm concerned...

I like Andrew but think his writing is meh.

we need outrage! we need dicks!! (the table is the table), Tuesday, 4 January 2022 13:26 (two years ago) link

"i also got the duras collection 'me and other writing' which i've only dipped into"

This looks fantastic!

xyzzzz__, Tuesday, 4 January 2022 13:29 (two years ago) link

8 Detectives,Alex Pavesi. The premise being that in the 1930's a mathematician wrote a book of short stories hiding within them the simple rules that all crime stories follow. Then he disappeared. ffwd to the 1960's and an editor revisits them and thinks they contain clues to a real unsolved murder. the problem I'm having so far is that the short stories as revealed, and then critiqued as paired chapters seem unremarkable and mundane. So far they're all pretty crap, but I'm not sure if that is intentional or not and if the greater mystery will hold more interest. I will finish it, but for now someone has put in a request for one of my other library books so had to get cracking on that.

The Woman In The Purple Skirt, Natsuko Imamura. Now this is more like it, 50 pages in a and rattling along, have no idea where it's going, though presumably it's somewhere other than an remarkably odd case of stalking.

oscar bravo, Tuesday, 4 January 2022 17:32 (two years ago) link

George Schuyler Black No More
Got this today because of a lack of communication with a librarian I was trying to get teo renew a couple of books I had rebewed too often to get renewed online.
I'd listened to a Backlisted on the book a few weeks back and ordered it as an interlibrary loan.
A satire on teh subject opf race by a maverick contemporary of the Harlem Renaissance . It has a basic premise that is inherently racist so has a transgressive nature of did he really go there and yes he did.
Actually set up seems to be a black ne'er do well gets stricken by a racist white woman who turns him down flat when he asks her to dance so he goes off and guinea pigs a new cosmetic technique where he becomes a caucasian.
I've read the first couple of chapters which are quite compelling, writing is pretty good.

bell hooks Sisters of teh Yam
Taking care fo oneself as part of an activist lifestyle.
Looking at the influences on a black female activist at the time>
I'm finding hooks to be a really interesting read. & keep wondering what I was doing at the time these things were coming out and if I knew anybdoy who was actually reading her at the time of release. 2005 I was getting involved in the ShellTosea campaign which was largely white outside of me. But I think this was not exactly an early book by her.
Finding I can read her pretty quickly but am trying to read as much of her as I can.

Stevolende, Tuesday, 4 January 2022 21:03 (two years ago) link

A Little Life has a new cover judging by the copies that arrived in store this week, and it is without doubt the worst cover I have ever seen whilst at the same time being an incredibly on the nose assessment of the novel therein.

oscar bravo, Tuesday, 4 January 2022 21:55 (two years ago) link

just finished the long secret. beth ellen is the best character ever

STOCK FIST-PUMPER BRAD (BradNelson), Tuesday, 4 January 2022 21:59 (two years ago) link

and Mama Jenkins!

So who you gonna call? The martini police (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 4 January 2022 22:04 (two years ago) link

scene on the beach with the fried chicken + fanning herself with Bible

So who you gonna call? The martini police (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 4 January 2022 22:04 (two years ago) link

Finished House of Mirth, but have nothing to add to what I already said. I just started Blues, by John Hershey (who also wrote Hiroshima and A Bell For Adano). It consists of a series of dialogues about fishing and is transparently modeled upon Isaak Walton's Compleat Angler, right down to the highly artificial language of the interlocutors, who are named Fisherman and Stranger, instead of Piscator and Viator. The tone hovers between pleasantry and pedantry, but the latter tends to overpower the former. Luckily it is short and offers me a change from Yet Another Novel.

more difficult than I look (Aimless), Wednesday, 5 January 2022 23:30 (two years ago) link

Wharton is an all-timer. I'm afraid to re-read it for fear of hyperventlating.

So who you gonna call? The martini police (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 5 January 2022 23:34 (two years ago) link

The back cover of my Penguin edition calls House of Mirth "a black comedy", which I think completely misreads it. Maybe someone thought the title was meant to convey that message to the reader. Wrong!

more difficult than I look (Aimless), Wednesday, 5 January 2022 23:45 (two years ago) link

My current book is Paradise Reclaimed, Halldor Laxness, an author I've greatly enjoyed for the most part. So far this one features much drily humorous dialogue and definitely qualifies as a comic novel. However, this being Icelandic literature, there's bound to be a large measure of darkness interlaced with the humor.

more difficult than I look (Aimless), Sunday, 9 January 2022 00:05 (two years ago) link

No idea where to put this, but ...

My wife is very active on Goodreads. A couple of days ago she realized that our neighbor (a friend, as far as neighbors go) was on Goodreads, too, but my wife had never checked out her activity. My wife looked at her page, and apparently it was overwhelmingly (deep breath) alien erotica. Yes, you read that correctly. Romance novels about people hooking up with aliens. Now, my wife found this kind of surprising, not just that our neighbor would be into this, but that she would be keeping a public tally of the alien erotica books she has read. And yet, when my wife went to the page today to read me a couple of the book descriptions, the page had been deleted! Or at least made no longer public.

So, what are your theories here? What are the odds that just a couple of days after my wife discovered this page the page should vanish? Is there any way for the reader/reviewer to know someone has scoped out their page? Maybe it's a coincidence and she suddenly realized her page was public and was embarrassed? That would be some coincidence. Just kind of odd all around. What's up wit that?

Josh in Chicago, Sunday, 20 March 2022 22:53 (two years ago) link

Omg.

As far as I know, Goodreads doesn’t show you that but I only use the app, so I’m not really sure.

I’d have to assume that your wife’s account is a) in her own name and b) she may have accidentally friended the neighbour or liked a post?

mardheamac (gyac), Sunday, 20 March 2022 22:56 (two years ago) link

She's visiting her secret love and won't be back for a while?

Stevolende, Sunday, 20 March 2022 22:57 (two years ago) link

No idea. I do know that there are some good stories about this topic from James Tiptree Jr and Kij Johnson, but yeah, this does seem a bit something.

Mardi Gras Mambo Sun (James Redd and the Blecchs), Sunday, 20 March 2022 22:58 (two years ago) link

Of course the other option here is that the neighbour had her Goodreads linked to her Facebook and was posting status updates until someone noticed and had a word but it was just bad timing on your wife’s part.

mardheamac (gyac), Sunday, 20 March 2022 22:59 (two years ago) link

lmao stevolende

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Sunday, 20 March 2022 23:04 (two years ago) link

Yeah, lol at that.

Mardi Gras Mambo Sun (James Redd and the Blecchs), Sunday, 20 March 2022 23:06 (two years ago) link

Seems most likely
Of course the other option here is that the neighbour had her Goodreads linked to her Facebook and was posting status updates until someone noticed and had a word but it was just bad timing on your wife’s part.
Happiest!
She's visiting her secret love and won't be back for a while?
So no more need for books!

dow, Monday, 21 March 2022 00:50 (two years ago) link

There is definitely not a "x viewed your profile" function on Goodreads. More to the point, what's the big deal with alien erotica? Not like it's a Left Behind novel, a Jordan Peterson book, or the complete works of Jeffrey Archer.

Chuck_Tatum, Monday, 21 March 2022 10:34 (two years ago) link

Yeah it could've been a lot lot worse. Now to take a sip of morning coffee, Google alien erotica and see what comes up.

xyzzzz__, Monday, 21 March 2022 11:06 (two years ago) link

I've started walking further afield in London and have picked from the shelf Geoffrey Fletcher's THE LONDON NOBODY KNOWS (1962, but seems to have been revised a bit later?). It contains drawings by the author, and a rolling discourse about London in a style that's now gone - as is a great deal of what Fletcher mentions. Indeed very little that he's specifically mentioned is familiar to me at all, even in areas I know - except The Roundhouse. He's rather obsessed with music halls.

Have you seen the film, the pinefox? Can be accused of poverty porn in places, but there's some astonishing footage in there and a lot of narrator James Mason looking awkwardly at the camera.

Daniel_Rf, Monday, 21 March 2022 11:40 (two years ago) link

I think I haven't seen it. I seem to recall hearing that the film was very different from the book and shared little more than a title. Unsure.

the pinefox, Monday, 21 March 2022 12:11 (two years ago) link

i think there is a thing that suggests people to add on goodreads, neighbor was probably recommended to add your wife which made her think "oh no i wonder if people can see this" and then realized her profile was public

towards fungal computer (harbl), Monday, 21 March 2022 12:34 (two years ago) link

It certainly has a lot of footage of old music halls!

Daniel_Rf, Monday, 21 March 2022 14:08 (two years ago) link

Any Flanagan and Allen action?

Mardi Gras Mambo Sun (James Redd and the Blecchs), Monday, 21 March 2022 14:15 (two years ago) link

alas no, just ghostly choruses intoning music hall chants in abandoned buildings.

Daniel_Rf, Monday, 21 March 2022 14:25 (two years ago) link

Any Flanagan and alien action?

Les hommes de bonbons (cryptosicko), Monday, 21 March 2022 14:41 (two years ago) link

lollllll

mardheamac (gyac), Monday, 21 March 2022 14:48 (two years ago) link

Read Torrey Peters' "Detransition, Baby," and also some chapbooks for an upcoming piece.

I recommend the Peters, though I found its ending a bit sudden for my tastes. I have a feeling that she's writing the sequel right now.

we need outrage! we need dicks!! (the table is the table), Monday, 21 March 2022 14:51 (two years ago) link

Any Flanagan and alien action?

New borad description

Mardi Gras Mambo Sun (James Redd and the Blecchs), Monday, 21 March 2022 14:57 (two years ago) link

The first time I read Herodotus I often found the long preliminary lead-up to Darius's invasion of Hellas to be tedious and confusing. This time I can see the structure he employed much better, and I am not nearly as confused by how it all connects, but the density of proper names for places and peoples who have sunk into obscurity over the millennia makes it slow going. Just processing a single sentence that may reference three or four distinct geographic features, cities, gods, peoples and personages by totally archaic and abandoned names can take multiple readings.

Aside from that, it's an amazing treasury of facts, myths, tall tales, and crazy cross-cultural misunderstandings that will generate arguments among historians forever.

more difficult than I look (Aimless), Monday, 21 March 2022 18:26 (two years ago) link

Hey, all you reading people!!! LOOK at this brand new WAYR thread:

Lilacs Out of the Dead Land, What Are You Reading? Spring 2022

more difficult than I look (Aimless), Tuesday, 22 March 2022 03:23 (two years ago) link


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