DRAY v KLAY

this round to dray

draymond is just the best

Truly

Quin: Dray

Quin Snyder believes Draymond belongs in the MVP conversation for the way he impacts the game pic.twitter.com/PcbGZ05RPM

— Warriors on NBCS (@NBCSWarriors) January 2, 2022

At first I read that as Klay, not Dray and wondered wtf Quin was up to.

he has the look of a man who has seen the future

Pop on Klay's return: "It's another big thrill for the fans. I don't mean just Golden State. The league is about players, it's about talent ... and him being one of the best shooters in the world, and also a hell of a defender, just adds to the aura of their team and to the NBA."

— Nick Friedell (@NickFriedell) January 9, 2022

klay day y'all

Praise be

https://i.imgur.com/dMVvJUt.jpg

the sea was angry that day my friends

Based on today, gotta say Dray.

after 2 long years, we are back klay 🥺pic.twitter.com/BJb89Lx8dN

— ✸ (@seacaptainklay) May 27, 2022

KRAY

kray confirmed

the kray brothers

oh wait

This moment made me laugh out loud. Dray with the most Dray answer possible:

"I didn't learn anything about myself, I been knew I was resilient" _ Draymond Green pic.twitter.com/NZ828ZhvqV

— CJ Fogler AKA Perc70 #BlackLivesMatter (@cjzero) June 17, 2022

He really hasn't changed that much

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RsvC8bRQ_T0

perfect answer to a dumb question

Perfect

Klay & Dray pic.twitter.com/pIdXqXVcc4

— Jack Perkins (@purehoop) June 19, 2022

Klay lost his championship hat while boating to the parade 😭pic.twitter.com/8UJ6f5r4sS

— Warriors on NBCS (@NBCSWarriors) June 20, 2022

LMAO KLAY pic.twitter.com/U8XNnaLkER

— Chris Montano (@gswchris) June 20, 2022

careful with those ACLs man

I suspect Klay was using a performance decreasing drug

did he stage losing the champs hat just so he could wear his sailor hat to the parade

hah i think so

Dying.

"Real mature, Draymond"

Steph and Dray were losing it while Klay had the mic 🤣 pic.twitter.com/Ym1h27836u

— Warriors on NBCS (@NBCSWarriors) June 20, 2022

https://sports.yahoo.com/how-draymond-green-cj-mccollum-navigate-the-double-dipping-player-media-dynamic-200541988.html

McCollum, a journalism major, felt a responsibility to inform Green of his Finals prediction in person rather than the forward being surprised to learn McCollum’s position on national television.

Being a bystander amid the conversation, McCollum and Green allowed Yahoo Sports to publish the details of their conversation.

“I’ve got to tell you this. I picked Boston to win Game 3, I picked you guys to win Game 4. But ultimately, I’ve got the Celtics winning the Finals,” McCollum told Green. “I just want you to hear it from me first before you hear me say it on TV.”

Green, without hesitation, responded, “That’s fine. Those Celtics will still be ringless just like you. Respect.”

while I think the basketball part of this question is pretty settled (in favor of dray), klay definitely wins the wkiw battle

Klay just demolished this beer at the Giants-Dodgers game 😂 pic.twitter.com/20e49t3mOM

— NBC Sports Bay Area & CA (@NBCSAuthentic) July 24, 2022

We are the same fr pic.twitter.com/0L2PbqM8iK

— villalobos (@RamonVillalobos) December 16, 2022

Took me way too many takes to understand what actually happened in this shot

Give Dray the max now! 🤣 pic.twitter.com/rUcosSaMCe

— ²³ (@PlayoffDraymond) January 28, 2023

that’s trippy

did we ever figure this one out?

both going through a rough patch

Pretty clear say is the 2nd best player on the team now (when he’s available)

total value the past 10 years not even close imo from outsider perspective

well you like rudy gobert

oh come on man lol

something to think about

I’m sorry who is putting klay over dray when it is all said and done apart from various grudge holding francophones I shallnt hear it

francophobes****

Dray delivers a lot of solid defense, plenty of ugly nut hunting, flops, technical fouls and childish jawing, very competent passing and rebounding, minimal points scored, and frequent suspensions. What you see is what you get. He's disruptive in both the good and bad sense.

i mean we could just review the thread instead of posting the same arguments again but on any team but the steph klay warriors dray wouldve been a huge offensive liability, a pure defensive specialist, granted the best defender around many years, but still he got very lucky if he had spent his career on normal teams he would be thought of radically different than he is now

and thats not even getting into all the extracurricular stuff like recruiting kd

it’s not just that he was a defensive specialist (and it seems worth pointing out, probably one of the 3 most important defenders of his generation), but he was also such an important connector on offense esp in an era where such skills were less commonplace. that’s not to say he didn’t need great offensive teammates to unlock his full potential but contrast that with klay who was more of a straightforward “piece” (tho obv at his best an elite one) rather than a foundational mold-breaking dude

he was a great connector because he played with a guy who was consistently trapped high meaning dray was consistently operating with an advantage, connecting skills in a normal halfcourt set up where everyone is being guarded when a guy (dray) is just no threat to score from anywhere arent that valuable

i invite you to peruse his numbers from the year steph missed, theyre not great

i think it’s true that klay’s game would more easily adapt to different situations… he has prob one of the most complimentary skillsets/playing styles you could imagine

but i’m of the opinion that the steph & dray offensive combo is more so what makes the warriors sui generis than the steph & klay combo. i think you could very easily take the other side of the argument! but i think the chemistry between steph & dray is what makes the warriors offense — i think steph hits all the same individual accolades as a player if draymond ends up on a different team but i don’t think he hits nearly the same team accolades. and i think you could have taken klay off the warriors and maybe found a player who got you to 90% of his contributions, i think it would have been harder to find a replacement for peak draymond, bcuz of how much of his play with steph is just mindmeld type stuff, and how much his defense powered their offense in those years in terms of getting out on the fast break and avalanching teams. maybe you can find another great small ball 5 defender (tho prob not!) but i just buy into the idea that there is something about him & steph that is just him & steph

so in a sense you’re both making correct points. i think in this poll, my understanding of it, i’m voting (i voted?) DRAY

i think dray absolutely fit beautifully with this warriors team, and that does include klay, but i also think you could build a million different great teams of all different configurations around steph, one reason dray really takes steph to the next level with this team is theyve always been short on ball handling and playmaking and dray provides that

of course one of the reasons they were short on ball handling and play making is klay does not dribble or pass