What Can't You Find On The Internet?

+/- indirectly to be concluded from this, I guess: https://get.bandcamp.help/hc/en-us/articles/360007903093-How-does-a-subscriber-cancel-and-what-happens-when-they-do-

Okay, thanks— I kind of came to that conclusion, but it's fucking weird that it isn't spelled out anywhere!

where were folks talking about the kenny g doc? i thought maybe beatles doc megathread but doesn't seem to be that

i want to post some poems i'm writing. there are probably threads for that. which one?

You might consider this one: Resurrection: The 2006 Poetry Thread

am i a jerk if i just make a new one? it's been 15 years!

greta thunberg was still shitting her pants in 2006. hell, I was still shitting my pants, even though i was 23. some habits die hard

If you can afford the new thread title fee, go ahead. After all, it's only money.

you know what, for this new year, i'm saying FUCK THE THREAD TITLE FEES. in lieu of #paymentforposts, i'm just going to ignore the fee and see if ILX mod enforcement has any real teeth

come at me, mods

There was an album cover I used to see posted on ILX sometimes with a picture of a weird-looking dude with a big red beard which covered a larger percentage of his face than a beard would normally cover. Any ideas?

https://i.imgur.com/3hraMo4.jpg

maybe try https://www.reddit.com/r/tipofmytongue/

xp: Hatcat forever.

Gentle Giant debut perhaps?

No, it was an actual photograph, but I do think that it was progressive rock of some kind.

probably the Simply Red album after Mick's head shrunk

Julie's 16th Birthday? They Only Come Out at Night?

Gary Higgins Red Hash?

https://www.discogs.com/release/3581939-Jonathon-Round-Jonathon-Round

Red Hash is what came to mind for me too!

i can't seem to find the thread that invited everyone to the ilx slack a couple years ago. i remember seeing it once, but my searches are coming up empty.

there's an ILX slack?

I could have sworn that when the Pretenders were nominated for their first Grammy, Chrissie Hynde said something about that making all the blowjobs she had to give worth it. I cannot find that quote anywhere, so I suspect I may have made it up in my own mind.

xpost yeah

i still can't find the ilx thread that contains the link to the ilx slack. i do remember seeing it at one point, and the ilx slack has over 100 people, so it's definitely a thing, i'm just trying to find where it was ever mentioned on ilx

oh nevermind, i found it. no dedicated thread for it, but a passing mention in 5-6 threads. i mentioned it myself in a couple!

Is HG Wells's character Dr. Moreau named after the artist Gustave Moreau? There would appear to be a connection via a vis "fauvism", the movement which Gustave Moreau founded is derived from "les fauves", I.e. the French term for wild beasts, which the mad scientist experimented on, but I cannot see this either confirmed or denied.

I think the the answer may or may not be in this article/

https://www.jstor.org/stable/4240981

Maupertuis: Doppelgänger of Doctor Moreau

is there a thread for posting things you find? i found a nice short little shopping list at my supermarket, gotta share it

The name of a book published around 1912 that contained offensive (for the time) songs and poems. I think the title started with an I. And it was available on Google Books.

is it possible on today's internet to encounter opinions that challenge the hegemony of Content? it seems now that 99% of search results are phony blog posts (etc.) that were obviously only written for the clicks. and so the industry of content marketing seems to dominate. searching for "criticism of content marketing" and other such terms just leads to more phony content, stuff like: "How to persuade the naysayers on your team to get on board with content marketing"

should i just accept that this is the internet now? i'm asking because i have a hunch that there is some overlap here with people who advocate for a free and open internet. or, you know, people who desire to foster real community or, failing that, to inhabit digital space that isn't 100% monetized?

is it partially my fault (through ignorance and laziness) for relying too much on the big search engines? are there alternatives for research and discovery that i'm not aware of?

Ironically, since the original message was posted way back in 2001 there was a complete track listing of the Now That's What I Call Music albums - on Wikipedia. But because the US audience isn't aware of those albums it was deleted and merged into a Now That's Etc (UK Series) stub. So there's a good example of content being available, and then not being available entirely because I am not in charge of the internet. I remember a similar thing happened with Playboy Playmates. Individual Pages -> "Playmates of the 1970s" -> Individual Pages Again -> "Playmates of the 1970s" etc.

As for the hegemony of content, there is an awful lot of robo-generated rubbish, typically with "solved [2022]" in the titles. However the internet circa 1995 was Usenet, forums, and the occasional user-generated page, all of which still exists in one form or another. I have to admit that I don't have the slightest clue what you're talking about, but I can't just write one paragraph, and in any case it doesn't matter as long as I sound authoritative.

is it possible on today's internet to encounter opinions that challenge the hegemony of Content? it seems now that 99% of search results are phony blog posts (etc.) that were obviously only written for the clicks. and so the industry of content marketing seems to dominate. searching for "criticism of content marketing" and other such terms just leads to more phony content, stuff like: "How to persuade the naysayers on your team to get on board with content marketing"

should i just accept that this is the internet now? i'm asking because i have a hunch that there is some overlap here with people who advocate for a free and open internet. or, you know, people who desire to foster real community or, failing that, to inhabit digital space that isn't 100% monetized?

is it partially my fault (through ignorance and laziness) for relying too much on the big search engines? are there alternatives for research and discovery that i'm not aware of?

― budo jeru, Wednesday, July 6, 2022 1:26 AM (yesterday) bookmarkflaglink

sorry glib answer but go to a library.

longer answer is that it's always been this way to a degree, sourcing has always been a challenge, there isn't some golden age of "type in search engine" -> "get oed quality source". idk what you're actually looking for but it's still more productive to collect good sources in some kind of feed (like twitter) than it is to google something imo.

is it possible on today's internet to encounter opinions that challenge the hegemony of Content? it seems now that 99% of search results are phony blog posts (etc.) that were obviously only written for the clicks. and so the industry of content marketing seems to dominate. searching for "criticism of content marketing" and other such terms just leads to more phony content, stuff like: "How to persuade the naysayers on your team to get on board with content marketing"

― budo jeru

serious answer:

https://collectiveliberation.org/wp-content/uploads/2013/01/Lorde_The_Masters_Tools.pdf

thanks, Kate.

so if i could re-write my post, it would go like this.

1. can anyone recommend an interesting / critical perspective -- via book, blog post, article, twitter thread, etc. -- about the ubiquity of content and the techniques of content marketing?

2. seeking recommendations for twitter feeds, blogs, authors, even ILX threads i'm not aware of, that focus on the internet, and particularly advocates for free / open online spaces.

thanks

i'm gonna bump an old DJP thread, "Enter... THE DISCOURSE", to give my serious thoughts

A recording of a quiz where a guy correctly identifies Bob Marley tunes from their intro drum rolls?

^ i tried to find that, too, and failed

this is a book that seems to be investigating some of the issues i was trying and failing to articulate. basically it's a book that argues that the internet needs to be de-privatized. i'm hoping to track down a copy and read it soon.

https://www.versobooks.com/books/3927-internet-for-the-people

have you read any Jaron Lanier?he kinda of goes into this thing in who owns the future

What Can't You Find On The Internet?

An explanation of the Burt Shotton Syndrome.

brimstead, no i haven't read him. thanks for the recommendation.

Looking for some evidence that back in the 70s, ICI developed a soft drinks packaging which kept the drink cold. IIRC it was tube shaped and had a plastic seal at the top.

― Dan Worsley, Monday, August 28, 2017 5:05 PM (four years ago) bookmarkflaglink

Still looking.

does this help?

maybe not 100% ICI *exactly* but

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IMI_plc : "The company, by then known as Nobel Explosives, was one of the four businesses that merged in 1927 to create Imperial Chemical Industries."

"an unofficial history of Kynoch works" (lined on that Wikipedia page) -> http://www.staffshomeguard.co.uk/KOtherInformationKynochV2B.htm

- 1969 A 51% stake is acquired in Paxman Cooler Manufacturing Co. of Brighouse (beverage cooling and dispensing).
- 1990 MK Refrigeration Group (drinks cooling equipment and optics) is acquired
- 1997 also mentions beer coolers
- 2010 as well

+ 1979 as well: A new group is formed, IMI Drinks Dispense, comprising Paxman and Redditch Controls and a new company is established with Cornelius, USA.

(just look for "cool" and "drinks" on that page :-) )

Thanks, Stan. Some good info there, but not any further forward.

My Dad worked for ICI in the UK during the late seventies, I'll ask him if he knows anything about that.

A recording of a quiz where a guy correctly identifies Bob Marley tunes from their intro drum rolls?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3KkoLsuWYsY

gotcha

ah cool, I went looking for it too, cause yes, I remembered, and even though I was pretty sure the guy was either Danish or Norwegian, I wasn’t able to find it.