blonde on blonde vs. highway 61 revisited.

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BoB is great but it is an epic listen as a whole, and one best done at 2AM, furthering the difficulty. It's a pretty strung-out album.

ma dmac's fury road (PBKR), Tuesday, 21 December 2021 18:46 (two years ago) link

eight months pass...

Vinyl Me Please is doing a MONO Blonde On Blonde pressing as their Essentials title for December.

an icon of a worried-looking, long-haired, bespectacled man (C. Grisso/McCain), Thursday, 15 September 2022 16:57 (one year ago) link

Oh yeah, that seems right. Check that, people. I first heard it in mono because I always bought mono because it was cheaper (not that much, but I was on an allowance). I thought stereo was corny parental stuff anyway, like Cinemascope. Much cooler to hear the wild sounds pressing the wall---Wall of Sound, yeah---and Dylan's crew blaring down Highway 61. with "It Takes A Lot To Laugh" {" I been up all night, leanin' on the window sill") and the beginning and end of moodswinging "Desolation Row" locating the Row pretty close to the funky old high-rise hallways of BoB (which I thought of re Village, Lower East Side, the Dakota, the Chelsea, and then realized it was all recorded in Nashville, which fit too, with my 70s visits to the Nashville of Altman's Nashville, with newspapers blowing around wet narrow little old streets, and even childhood memories of Chicago: all those scarred-up bad cough American cities back then, where thee action was).
Yeah blaring along Hwy61, then floating through rooms and halls of Bob, with moodswing to sneer also in "Visions of Johanna," in context of the narrator's own search-flailing: he's fogged and stoned and floating but can't relax---"my conscience explodes"---and "The ghost of electricity/Howls in the bones of her face" not far from "with her fog (Vogue?) her ampheta-meen, and her pearls," which is the key line of otherwise ho-hum-ish "Just Like A Woman," and the post-moodswing, crucial wordplay turning one "stone" to another, dodging terminal self-pity, is crucial in "Rainy Day Women." So there are enough bits standing out even in the foggiest, draggiest tracks (and "Visions," of course is far more than that, or that appproach at its best, but I think there are enough effective lines/contrast all through this thing to carry me between the most consistently compelling stand-alone tracks).
Even "Sad-Eyed Lady," which I don't think I ever paid that much (enough?) attention to, has "With your mercury mouth/In the missionary times" at the beginning, and "my Arabian drums" awaiting Milady's instructions all through: they're gonna be parked somewhere, this exotica imagery, so he can go off to the sere, clear(er), though even darker, backwoods streets ov John Wesley Harding.

(Some great comments on this thread, which I'd never seen before. Good to compare these albums, but don't know that I prefer one over the other, though Hwy61 plays itself without warning in my head pretty often, as it has for many a year.)

dow, Thursday, 15 September 2022 19:16 (one year ago) link

So what I meant to convey was that his albums came out so quickly and had just enough intimations on one of what the next soon led to---and Bringing It All Back Home had the isolation of being young etc. in the sticks, then jumping onto Highway 61, to city fog of BoB, back to the boonies, in a bloodstained historical way, still unfurling, for JWH, closing tracks of which foretold Nashville Skyline in different context, of course.

dow, Thursday, 15 September 2022 19:24 (one year ago) link

blonde on blonde hands down. it just seems less self conscious, like he’s not looking over his shoulder or winking as much, just letting it all spill out. It’s an ornate maroon and gold carpet. it sounds like home.

“like a rolling stone” is so awesome, tho, I will never deny that

brimstead, Thursday, 15 September 2022 19:47 (one year ago) link

It’s an ornate maroon and gold carpet. it sounds like home. So much so that I couldn't listen to it for several decades: when I tried, there were too many associations pressing in. Though very eventually, that was okay, and I was just amazed, that's all (in part by what he could do while obviously in his mid-twenties, an age range I was also much impressed by when I was much, much younger than that).
Now my fave version of "Stone" is by Hendrix at Monterey, the way the pointedness of the song comes through thee canny cuetness of his delivery's dynamic.

dow, Thursday, 15 September 2022 20:04 (one year ago) link

I'm 40, and my parents were big Dylan fans. These two + Bringing It All Back Home were in regular rotation when I was growing up and were thus among the first "adult" music that I heard somewhere other than the radio that I really tried to develop my own connection with. Predictably, my relationships with all 3 albums have continued to evolve throughout my life.

Posts upthread by marcos and Dr. C describing the airier, more limp mix of BoB had me sold on where I would put my allegiance between these 2. While I have always loved the poetry of Dylan's phrase "thin, wild mercury sound," the actual SOUND he seems to be describing leans a little too heavily on the "thin" part, on BoB anyway. But then I read brimstead's gorgeous

like he’s not looking over his shoulder or winking as much, just letting it all spill out. It’s an ornate maroon and gold carpet. it sounds like home.

and I'm back to thinking of these two deeply similar albums as incomparably different.

Also, cannot believe I have never noticed before today that Blonde on Blonde abbreviated spells BOB!

Lavator Shemmelpennick, Thursday, 15 September 2022 20:07 (one year ago) link

Re: trimming the fat on BoB to create a regular length LP, it would be interesting to see if there's any consensus. A lot of the songs are quite similar, and I suspect that aside from a few obvious standouts (and cutting Rainy Day Women) the ones you keep and cut are very personal, based on specific lines and moments that resonate. I won't try to get into track order - it definitely wouldn't be this - but a very quick pass for me says something like

A:
Stuck Inside of Mobile with the Memphis Blues Again
I Want You
Visions of Johanna
One of Us Must Know (Sooner or Later)
Temporary Like Achilles

B:
Leopard-Skin Pill-Box Hat
Most Likely You Go Your Way (and I’ll Go Mine)
Fourth Time Around
Sad-Eyed Lady of the Lowlands

Cut:
Rainy Day Women #12 & 35
Pledging My Time
Just Like a Woman
Absolutely Sweet Marie
Obviously Five Believers

Lavator Shemmelpennick, Thursday, 15 September 2022 20:18 (one year ago) link

But wait! Whut about

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aKqQJuJqN6Q

dow, Thursday, 15 September 2022 20:30 (one year ago) link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NlnlrtsHC6s

dow, Thursday, 15 September 2022 20:32 (one year ago) link

I'd keep "Absolutely Sweet Marie" because it's got am instrumental hook and interesting chord changes, which I bet no-one ever said about half of the songs on the record.
I admit I never got "Visions of Johanna".

Halfway there but for you, Thursday, 15 September 2022 20:58 (one year ago) link

It's like Bob saying, "do you see what I did there?" for seven minutes straight.

Halfway there but for you, Thursday, 15 September 2022 21:01 (one year ago) link

Johanna vs. Sweet Marie is exactly the kind of personal preference I alluded to - neither has much in the way of hooks, both long, but both have lots of indelible lines. "The ghost of ’lectricity howls in the bones of her face" - cmon

Lavator Shemmelpennick, Thursday, 15 September 2022 21:09 (one year ago) link

I do like "Sweet Marie" a lot but it is sort of Blonde on Blonde by numbers to me. It doesn't stand out.

"Just Like a Woman" also has plenty of great moments but could've been a non-album single

Lavator Shemmelpennick, Thursday, 15 September 2022 21:10 (one year ago) link

Oh, I love Sweet Marie. I could see maaaaybe losing Five Believers.

mosh pit insurance agent (morrisp), Thursday, 15 September 2022 21:36 (one year ago) link

People. Just enjoy the record. Also if anybody so much as *touches* the Kenny Buttrey tour de force of “Marie”, I will be over with the enforcers.

assert (matttkkkk), Thursday, 15 September 2022 21:43 (one year ago) link

^otm

brimstead, Thursday, 15 September 2022 21:55 (one year ago) link

Inspired by this revive, I listened to BoB tonight and was thinking about how the album is kind of divided between serious or intense songs (Visions, One or Us Must Know, etc.) and lighter/funnier material (Rainy Day, Leopard Skin, etc.). It's its own little White Album. I was imagining the single album version of BoB not in terms of my favorites (I'd take some from both styles), but solely from the serious or intense side. There isn't quite enough for an entire album imo, so I added "She's Your Lover Now" and came up with this:

Emo Blonde on Blonde
Side A:
1. She's Your Lover Now
2. Visions of Johanna
3. One of Us Must Know (Sooner or Later)
4. Just Like a Woman

Side B:
1. Stuck Inside of Mobile with the Memphis Blues Again
2. Sad-Eyed Lady of the Lowlands

That fumble at the end of She's Your Lover Now leads into Visions really well.

Abel Ferrara hard-sci-fi elevator pitch (PBKR), Friday, 16 September 2022 00:40 (one year ago) link

So I've been listening to this version, which I now call Blonde on the Tracks, and it is killer imho (I know ppl don't like Just Like a Woman, but it works in this much more thematic context).

i need to put some clouds behind the reaper (PBKR), Friday, 23 September 2022 22:12 (one year ago) link


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