haha good to see — he's been MIA on the Denver scene for the past few years (even pre-pandemic). I assume he's still here, I think that's a rocky mountain chocolate factory bear.
― tylerw, Tuesday, 21 December 2021 16:25 (two years ago) link
https://www.cbsnews.com/colorado/news/3-denver-police-officers-injured-suspect-neil-hagerty-arrested/?utm_source=dlvr.it&utm_medium=twitter
― ⓓⓡ (Johnny Fever), Saturday, 15 April 2023 00:23 (eleven months ago) link
3 Denver police officers injured, suspect Neil Hagerty arrested https://t.co/bdCMqYr8cF pic.twitter.com/nmaZeVCYzS— CBSColorado (@CBSNewsColorado) April 14, 2023
― ⓓⓡ (Johnny Fever), Saturday, 15 April 2023 00:24 (eleven months ago) link
Holy shit
― morrisp.fandom.com (morrisp), Saturday, 15 April 2023 00:26 (eleven months ago) link
More detailed report here
― morrisp.fandom.com (morrisp), Saturday, 15 April 2023 00:30 (eleven months ago) link
"The suspect in this case has the same date of birth, full name and eye color as the famous musician."
― morrisp.fandom.com (morrisp), Saturday, 15 April 2023 00:31 (eleven months ago) link
wtf
― global tetrahedron, Saturday, 15 April 2023 02:10 (eleven months ago) link
feel bad for the dude but anyone who tries to slit a cop's throat with their own badge is a fucking hero in my book. they shoulda sent social workers.
― Perverted By Linguiça (sleeve), Saturday, 15 April 2023 02:11 (eleven months ago) link
Goddamn I got the sense he wasn't in great shape but this is heartbreaking
― Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Saturday, 15 April 2023 02:17 (eleven months ago) link
It really has me shook. He cut the one cop on the throat, and tried to grab the other one’s weapon… I’m grateful he is alive tonight
― morrisp.fandom.com (morrisp), Saturday, 15 April 2023 02:24 (eleven months ago) link
Yes, it's kind of amazing (and very fortunate) he wasn't killed. Hope he's OK
― Paul Ponzi, Saturday, 15 April 2023 02:28 (eleven months ago) link
yeah, it could be way worse. still, this is terribly sad news. i also began to worry after his socials disappeared, covid time, etc. ugh.
― sknybrg, Saturday, 15 April 2023 02:29 (eleven months ago) link
xxp again, cops should never ever be the first responders to a "wellness check", they don't know how to do anything other than escalate
― Perverted By Linguiça (sleeve), Saturday, 15 April 2023 02:50 (eleven months ago) link
and ofc the only reason dude is alive right now is because he's white, yeah
I mean
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7QnPFfqVwT0
― Perverted By Linguiça (sleeve), Saturday, 15 April 2023 03:59 (eleven months ago) link
oh jeez.
― dicbo=v2-ubswizzb&hrt (stevie), Saturday, 15 April 2023 08:10 (eleven months ago) link
was cranking Thank You in the car yesterday, the soloing on Shadow Of The Wasp is just majestic
― dicbo=v2-ubswizzb&hrt (stevie), Saturday, 15 April 2023 08:11 (eleven months ago) link
So wild. And sad.
― SQUIRREL MEAT!! (Capitaine Jay Vee), Saturday, 15 April 2023 11:45 (eleven months ago) link
Glad he's uninjured, hope he's OK, and in awe of how good that mug shot looks tbh
― the banshees of ed sheeran (flamboyant goon tie included), Saturday, 15 April 2023 12:58 (eleven months ago) link
JH on FB
― jaywbabcock, Saturday, 15 April 2023 14:49 (eleven months ago) link
idk if healing energy and posi vibes are gonna help as much as a good lawyer?
― sarahell, Saturday, 15 April 2023 16:30 (eleven months ago) link
i am reminded now of the time I booked JH at my diy warehouse venue when we were basically one "complaint" away from being shut down by the City ... that was a tense night
― sarahell, Saturday, 15 April 2023 16:33 (eleven months ago) link
just based on that fb post alone jh seems like an awful person
― ꙮ (map), Saturday, 15 April 2023 16:42 (eleven months ago) link
Why?
― morrisp.fandom.com (morrisp), Saturday, 15 April 2023 16:48 (eleven months ago) link
Yeah, why? I'm sure they're former business partners more than actual friends, but that post isn't shitty at all.
― ⓓⓡ (Johnny Fever), Saturday, 15 April 2023 17:54 (eleven months ago) link
I mean they were married
― Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Saturday, 15 April 2023 18:08 (eleven months ago) link
given everything that went down over the years though I'd imagine it's more a deeply shared trauma which is better way to describe RT than a business
― Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Saturday, 15 April 2023 18:10 (eleven months ago) link
true
― ⓓⓡ (Johnny Fever), Saturday, 15 April 2023 18:13 (eleven months ago) link
It's nice to read all the comments under her post (including a few names I recognize). I reached out to a few folks last nite, but I feel like the RT "fan community" is thinned out & atomized, so it's heartening to see ppl come together in one place like that (the few tweets I was seeing were snarky and unhelpful). I'm not on FB so don't usually see what happens there.
― morrisp.fandom.com (morrisp), Saturday, 15 April 2023 18:31 (eleven months ago) link
I am hopeful that someone in a position to get money/help to him will set up a fund or other initiative to make that happen.
― morrisp.fandom.com (morrisp), Saturday, 15 April 2023 18:34 (eleven months ago) link
listening to Accelerator right now, what an incredible album
― Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Saturday, 15 April 2023 18:40 (eleven months ago) link
all time
― brimstead, Saturday, 15 April 2023 18:43 (eleven months ago) link
it's heartening to see ppl come together in one place like that (the few tweets I was seeing were snarky and unhelpful). I'm not on FB so don't usually see what happens there.
― morrisp.fandom.com (morrisp), Saturday, April 15, 2023 11:31 AM (seventeen minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink
For all of its drawbacks Facebook at least is less of a descent into hell competition to see who can be the most snarky about a terrible irl situation.
Bad news obv, really had no idea he was in a place that would have led to this.
― omar little, Saturday, 15 April 2023 18:54 (eleven months ago) link
I've been an on-off Patreon supporter of his and uh... man have y'all see his uploads from the past few years? He's always ridden the line between genius and insane but his patreon is really strange. Filming a bandaid on the wall and layering 5 rambling voice recordings on top. I don't know.
And there were some replies to the denver police twitter post saying 'he's been a nuisance to our neighbors'.
He needs to get off the legal weed and have someone who cares for him to support him. Doesn't he have a daughter? Just wild. I want good things for Neil.
― trux tracker (edges), Sunday, 16 April 2023 00:40 (eleven months ago) link
I was so close to seeing Denver album Hex in Dallas but it got cancelled for the new Trux album. Really beat up about that loss.
I'm sure I've already said once above I felt the new Trux record halted both Hex and Bananas at their strongest moments. I think Bananas is working on new shit, I saw them in Denton and they were fucking strong.
I hope Knuckleball isn't the last Neil offering. I hope the Trux catalog gets into the right label's hands and we finally get Outtakes, Alternates, & Practice Jams on a 3 vinyl set lol. And Sweet Sixteen. I'm gonna need a 4 terabyte large 'Twin Infinitives Sessions Uncut' pretty please.
― trux tracker (edges), Sunday, 16 April 2023 00:50 (eleven months ago) link
and those 3 mail-order tapes from 1997 too plz
again I'm sure the dude is having a hard time, but I wish that social workers had responded instead of cops. I know that Denver is trying: https://conversableeconomist.com/2022/06/10/cahoots-in-denver-experimenting-with-alternatives-to-police/
― Perverted By Linguiça (sleeve), Sunday, 16 April 2023 01:01 (eleven months ago) link
I want good things for Neil.
and this, yeah.
another recent anecdote from FB:
"Saw Neil Michael Hagerty open for Circuit Des Yeux in Denver in 2018, was a pretty out there performance. People were quite puzzled. Maybe a year before that though he played one of the stranger shows I've ever seen, on the second floor of a French wine bar on South Broadway in the middle of the afternoon with all the window blinds closed. With a small band that played a very peculiar style of almost Ranchera type instrumental music. Neil played hidden behind a Japanese screen, and then talked about brunch a lot in-between songs. But then, he talked about brunch in-between songs at the CDY show too. He was looking good though both times, sad to see this photo going around. The last few years have been hard on people, hope he is able to get it together."
― Perverted By Linguiça (sleeve), Sunday, 16 April 2023 01:03 (eleven months ago) link
I felt the new Trux record halted both Hex and Bananas at their strongest moments.Can’t speak to Jennifer, but by the time White Stuff came out, Neil had slowed down significantly – it had been 3 years since Denver, and the last Hex album was 3 years prior to that.
― morrisp.fandom.com (morrisp), Sunday, 16 April 2023 04:16 (eleven months ago) link
(FWIW, I have a soft spot for White Stuff… due to recency, it’s the Trux album I’m most likely to reach for (including earlier today). Even retread Trux beats most bands at their prime… and I actually do like it a bit better, on its own merits, than P4P and the 2nd half of VoD.)
― morrisp.fandom.com (morrisp), Sunday, 16 April 2023 04:48 (eleven months ago) link
I dig White Stuff. A member of Royal Trux is probably pretty high up on the list of people you do not want as neighbors. Possible poll?
Sorry, I don’t mean to make light of the situation, I hope he gets help. That is an amazing beard tho.
― Cow_Art, Sunday, 16 April 2023 11:54 (eleven months ago) link
It’s not totally clear if the guy on the DPD Twitter thread is in fact referring to Neil (some other dude thought he meant a guy named Joel).
― morrisp.fandom.com (morrisp), Sunday, 16 April 2023 15:08 (eleven months ago) link
Woof. I didn’t even recognize him from his mugshot.
― Allen (etaeoe), Sunday, 16 April 2023 16:51 (eleven months ago) link
Denver DA Charges Neil Hagerty with Assaulting a Peace Officer
― jaywbabcock, Thursday, 20 April 2023 19:01 (eleven months ago) link
Charges sound fairly serious. I wonder what kind of representation he has (public defender?)
― morrisp.fandom.com (morrisp), Thursday, 20 April 2023 19:12 (eleven months ago) link
I don't think the dude's even on a record label anymore, and I have the impression (from a few places) that he's cut various personal ties over the past few years... I hope he has someone in his corner.
― morrisp.fandom.com (morrisp), Thursday, 20 April 2023 19:23 (eleven months ago) link
Yeah, hoping for the best for him, sounds like he's hit a really rough patch. Hard to read between the lines with the cops' version of events, seems weird that Hagerty would just seemingly come out of nowhere to rip the badge off, and I'm speculating here, but can't help but wonder what the outcome would have been had we lived in a country where trained mental health professionals responded to this instead of cops.
― Maxmillion D. Boosted (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Thursday, 20 April 2023 19:36 (eleven months ago) link
The story is totally weird... but considering they apparently didn't end up shooting him or anything (thank god), I'm not sure what incentive they would have to tell a CYA-type story(?) Like even if the cops had initiated the contact (and did it poorly), wouldn't they at least say he was resisting arrest or something? I say this not b/c I'm Mr. Trust-a-Cop, but rather b/c (in trying to make sense of it) my fear is that the narrative may be accurate, and that it illustrates how seriously bad his state of mind may be.
― morrisp.fandom.com (morrisp), Thursday, 20 April 2023 19:59 (eleven months ago) link
Yeah, you may be right. I'm just naturally distrustful of cop pushed narratives, it's just weird that it doesn't really explain whether the initial call even had anything to do with Hagerty or if he just burst out onto something else? Can't help but speculate a little since I'm concerned for him.
I will say I don't think he looks that great in his mugshot, he looks a little scared and confused to me.
― Maxmillion D. Boosted (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Thursday, 20 April 2023 20:03 (eleven months ago) link
They said they were making a "welfare check." Not sure I'd ever want the police to come check on my welfare.
― immodesty blaise (jimbeaux), Thursday, 20 April 2023 20:09 (eleven months ago) link
Not sure I'd ever want the police to come check on my welfare.
I am very certain I would not want the police to come check on my welfare, unless I was being held hostage by other men with guns, and then it would basically be a shitshow no matter what.
― sarahell, Thursday, 20 April 2023 20:16 (eleven months ago) link