golden state warriors thread

I think they may freeze the league tonight

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Perhaps my favorite stat:

In the regular season, Golden State is now 341-91 since Oct. 2014 when Steph Curry and Draymond Green are active.

— Shane Young (@YoungNBA) December 26, 2021

yikes

i wonder what the jordan/pippen w/l line is

Warms the heart

Splash Bros shooting together 🤩pic.twitter.com/CVbkifbUTQ

— Warriors on NBCS (@NBCSWarriors) December 31, 2021

I want iguodala

The jab step had the Eifffel Tower leaning 😭😭😭😭 pic.twitter.com/YOtFYAKeQx

— warriorsworld (@warriorsworld) January 2, 2022

Lol, I thought of Kellerman as soon as that went in. Great win! They kept their composure on the road after blowing a big lead.
I wonder if they'll wait for Dray to clear protocols before bringing Klay back.

I think this win may have been their best win of the season. Or at least tied with the Christmas suns game.

another really solid win especially with curry having another stinker. the defense in the 4th was insane especially the last few minutes.

Draymond Green had 3 blocks in the final 3 minutes of the game last night.

HE IS BACK. pic.twitter.com/RIVLYXd3lH

— Antonin (@antonin_org) January 4, 2022

Ok when do we start Poole and move Curry to 6th man? :P

haha. speaking of:
https://theathletic.com/3018577/2022/01/04/grooming-the-warriors-new-sixth-man-behind-the-scenes-of-jordan-pooles-maturation/

when i look at the warriors i say a lot of the stuff theyre doing seems unsustainable but then i also say they have klay coming back

whats unsustainable? currys having his worst shooting season and they are winning. wiggins 3p% might drop a bit but i'd imagine that would coincide with currys coming back up to normal.

they have not that different of a team than could absolutely not put the ball through the hoop last year

@Spottie
Yeah I posted just after reading that! I love JP3. And GP2, for that matter!

warriors were a good team the last 3rd of last season.. but there are some big differences between this season and last:

- warriors committed to winning from the start and not forcing minutes for young/bad players
- draymond didnt start the season with covid complications and has been playing like playoff draymond on a nightly basis
- poole continuing to play like he did 2nd half of last season
- adding normal vets who fit the system bjelica, porter, iggy, gp2 and removing nico mannion, brad wannamaker, oubre, bazemore & mychel mulder

theyve got a bunch of dubious guys playing very well is how i break it down to an extent, like none of these guys bjelica, porter, iggy, gp2 are good, poole and wigdawg are ok players also playing out of their minds, but on the other hand they have klay coming back

i think they would as currently constructed without klay have a hard time scoring against a good playoff defense

i'm a little worried about steph and it's not a given that klay is going to come back and be awesome

i know ive said this a number of times but they should go allin with a trade for another guy, be willing to move any non core non kuminga player and any pick

and i dont think they should trade wigdawg, you want to bolster their success not radically change the team

i'm a little worried about steph and it's not a given that klay is going to come back and be awesome

― call all destroyer, Tuesday, January 4, 2022 10:09 AM (five minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink

he usually has a slump every year but this one seems to be sticking around a bit longer

I'd rather keep this roster together for the long haul and roll the dice on a championship this season than make some big move to try to guarantee something this year.

https://i.imgur.com/SzV1Ae4.png

I'd rather keep this roster together for the long haul

― DJI, Tuesday, January 4, 2022 12:19 PM (six seconds ago) bookmarkflaglink

the guys are old!

Not that old, but fair. And I'm intrigued by your trade concept.

steph is 33 entering the no more peak years guaranteed zone, klay is 31 and has been injured, draymond 31 with a game that relies on very high motor so to speak, i mean their core could keep rolling for another few years but could also easily not

their ideal trade is prob for a wing or guard who can create shoot and defend but guys like that prob arent available to them unless they want to really push a lot of chips in, which considering how well theyre doing they prob do not, however trading for one of indys centers does seem doable

theyve got a bunch of dubious guys playing very well is how i break it down to an extent, like none of these guys bjelica, porter, iggy, gp2 are good, poole and wigdawg are ok players also playing out of their minds, but on the other hand they have klay coming back

― lag∞n, Tuesday, January 4, 2022 10:00 AM (eighteen minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink

our definitions of good may be different but all those guys are positive impact players and only wiggins is playing out of his mind (really just with his 3p shooting tho). porters always been this guy, his shooting numbers are on par with his career averages same w bjelica. gp2 isnt doing anything crazy, just playing great defense and cutting backdoor at the right time and hitting the open corner 3 on occasion. pooles shooting numbers are avg and could tick up going against bench units. iggy has missed half the season and is shooting 24% from 3. idk nothing seems like a major outlier to me.

they wont make any moves this season unless another injury happens

porter is theoretically the most legit player out of them but the thing with him is he just hasnt been healthy in like five years, idk if you told me all those guys were getting rotation minutes for a contender i would be skeptical

every contender has dudes like that tho.

warriors just have a lot of them, and theyre not a top heavy multiple mvp candidates team either

unless you ask quinn snyder i guess lol

Dray is for sure playing at an all-nba level this season tho

they have not that different of a team than could absolutely not put the ball through the hoop last year

― lag∞n, Tuesday, January 4, 2022 11:48 AM (forty-one minutes ago)

on a basic level this is just untrue tho.

top 8 in minutes last year:

curry
wiggins
draymond
oubre jr
wiseman
toscano-anderson
bazemore
poole

oubre, wiseman, and bazemore were all terrible for them and have all played zero minutes for them this year. toscano-anderson is a borderline NBA player and is tenth in minutes for them this year. so they've turned over half their rotation basically. dumping those guys and replacing their minutes w/ guys like igoudala and porter -- going from below average/actively harmful to average/actively useful -- is a huge change, and tbh it was evident in the first game they played this year (vs the lakers) that putting decent pros who can play their system was going to be a major difference for them. and poole has taken on way more minutes and is better than he was last year, he can make plays as a secondary scorer which they just didn't have last year, this is also pretty obvious to me.

now, whether they can win the finals, i think that's totally up for debate. personally i still have the bucks and nets at the front of the line and i'm not sure any of the west teams can beat either of them in a 7 game series. but i would put the warriors as currently constructed as the favorites to come out of the west. i wouldn't say huge favorites and they could not afford an injury to steph but they're back to playing death line up style warriors basketball again and there's a track record even pre-durant of that being a finals level team

Exactly

are porter and iggy better players than oubre? i dont think so, which is the thing were talking about

it’s just one game and they’re gonna need good health but this warriors team kinda feels night and day from where they were last year.

poole gives them someone else in the starting line up who can do something the ball, and lee can score a bit off the bench. and then just putting guys like igoudala and bjelica in the rotation who are actually competent NBA players is such a step up from a lot of what they we’re running out last year. no wiseman, no oubre, no paschall, no nico mannion

― J0rdan S., Wednesday, October 20, 2021 12:34 AM (two months ago)

i posted this on opening night

Dray is for sure playing at an all-nba level this season tho

― Spottie, Tuesday, January 4, 2022 12:48 PM (three minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink

he has been killing it def

the other thing is that the dubs have just had extremely good health at a time where most teams have had very bad health

this is looking like a down year in the west and their core is indeed old, they should absolutely be trying to upgrade this team.

are porter and iggy better players than oubre? i dont think so, which is the thing were talking about

― lag∞n, Tuesday, January 4, 2022 12:51 PM (twenty-seven seconds ago)

completely stripped of context, no. but w/ the warriors absolutely. oubre shot 31% on 6 threes per game last year, he was flat out bad for them, couldn't hit a shot, was just not a good player. he's been much better this year in charlotte & has had better shooting years previously so maybe it was just a bad year but he just didn't seem to play their style, not really a high IQ player, has never totaled even 2 assists per game in his career. they're better off w/ iggy and porter style guys who can keep the offense moving & getting the ball to the right ppl. also porter is shooting 40% on threes this year, which is right in line w/ his career number. that shooting ability alone makes him >>>> than oubre for the warriors in the sense that they primarily need role players who can make open shots

Oubre seemed like a bad system fit. I remember him getting pulled a lot after bad swings.

every year teams like the warriors sign a bunch of minimum guys and they're all crapshoots--this year the warriors have gotten insanely lucky to have a bunch of those guys work and stay healthy so far. another reason to upgrade this year's team.

My big question is whether Wiseman will ever be good. I'm not sure he has the mean disposition that is usually needed in a big man.

i'm actually stunned that oubre's career high in assists per game is 1.6, which happened four years ago. lol. like, i never thought of him as a distributor but damn.

i just think it's hard to overstate how obvious it was lsat year that steph was a one man offense and how different that is from this year

the thing is all those bench guys as mentioned before are just not that good, the fit might be better but i mean adding some guy who struggled to get minutes in sacramento, a guy whos had a fork in him so long the fork fell out, and a guy who hasnt been healthy in five years generally doesnt take you from bottom third to top five offensive team, which is why i think its unsustainable, tho there was def an aspect of them running cold/having bad luck last year so they prob werent actually that bad, but still just on talent theyre pretty clearly playing over their heads so far

also worth noting this is the no 1 defense in the NBA by a full point in defensive rating. no 4 offense, no 1 defense, championship pedigree on the roster and w/in the organization, top 3 offensive player in the league, top 3 defensive player in the league, good role players, i wouldn't overthink this in terms of considering them a genuine title contender