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PHWOAR is right! I'm not over bothered by the wides, I can't shoot wide for tofu, and 4/3 does give you extra reach on longs, at the expense of a bit of d-o-f.

TOP has delayed their e-p1 review, grr.

stet, Tuesday, 21 July 2009 13:20 (fourteen years ago) link

TOP?

Michael Jones, Tuesday, 21 July 2009 13:22 (fourteen years ago) link

The Online Photographer.

stet, Tuesday, 21 July 2009 14:38 (fourteen years ago) link

That review is up. It's pretty good: only complaints are the AF performance and the low-res screen. Am not bothered about the screen -- it's miles better than the one I have now anyway. The AF could be a pain, but am more likely to have manual lenses on it anyway, right? Hmm.

stet, Wednesday, 22 July 2009 18:14 (fourteen years ago) link

Just saw the review as well - figure I'll add my comments to the mix, despite having only had a fully functioning lens attached to it since this morning, so take them with grain of salt. I think the screen is pretty good - viewing angles are excellent and it's nice and bright. I have youthful eyes so have no problem with using the screen - you can definitely use it to ballpark focus without zooming in. Haven't used a 460k dot screen so don't know if a higher res screen would be better for nailing focus in this regard.

Magnifying while using manual focus lens is a pain - you have to press a button to zoom in, and then press it again to zoom out. You specify the area of the screen to zoom in on using a green square on the screen. You move the green square using the four-way d-pad. Unfortunately, the functions that the 4-way d-pad used to control - ISO, AF, WB, and drive mode - are no longer accessible. That means you have to switch to another mode in order to change any of those functions. Out of these four, ISO's probably the only one that warrants frequent changing - so maybe assigning ISO control to the Fn button can sidestep this issue. The camera's interface is extremely customizable, so I'm sure I'll eventually find a configuration that works for me.

It's definitely not as convenient as using a rangefinder or a split screen focusing screen if you're trying to nail focus using a manual lens. People who routinely scale/zone focus shouldn't have too much of a problem. NB Some adapters will allow you focus slightly past infinity, so the focus scale will be off a by a little bit.

All of the above is moot though if you're just gonna HF the lens at f/8 with high ISO. Which is what I'll probably end up doing most of the time!

Armageddon Two: Armageddon (dyao), Wednesday, 22 July 2009 19:14 (fourteen years ago) link

AF seemed kinda quick when I played with the Pen but then I s'pose I was expecting traditional compact contrast-AF performance and it's loads better than that. But if it's in place of yr SLR phase-AF, well...I couldn't be doing with it really. Not for the sort of pictures I take (though I do take a good proportion with a manual focus lens). Panasonic G1 seemed to get rave notices for its AF, so perhaps the system can be improved.

The danger with these 920k LCD screens on the newer Sony/Nikon/Canon DSLRs, it seems to me, is that you run the battery down by just endlessly gazing at videos and images you've shot. Having played with a 500D, it's very moreish.

Michael Jones, Thursday, 23 July 2009 10:18 (fourteen years ago) link

Perhaps I should just buy an M6. Buy the time I'm frustrated with film again and sell it either the E-P1's focus will seem brilliant, or the E-P2 will be out. :)

stet, Thursday, 23 July 2009 10:26 (fourteen years ago) link

I want one of these: http://www.luminous-landscape.com/reviews/cameras/gh1.shtml

caek, Thursday, 23 July 2009 10:31 (fourteen years ago) link

My cine lenses came in. 5 of em, all 25mm (50mm equivalent FOV), f1.9. You can get f1.4's and f0.95's but they're a bit more expensive. Have already dinged the bottom of the camera. Somehow I am less distraught over this than when it happened to my MBP.

Some Japanese company has come out with a black leatherette covering for it. Doesn't look quite right to me. Also the thought of scraping off icky bits of adhesive in a couple of years is not so appealing.

http://aki-asahi.com/store/html/E-P1/leatherette/Type1/E-P1_Leatherette.jpg

Armageddon Two: Armageddon (dyao), Thursday, 23 July 2009 18:27 (fourteen years ago) link

Alright dudes, time to buy a bag. Which color would you choose:

http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/4103Vk-t45L._SS500_.jpg

http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/41sTG1Yzp7L._SS400_.jpg

Armageddon Two: Armageddon (dyao), Saturday, 25 July 2009 00:18 (fourteen years ago) link

The top one, I think.

Michael Jones, Saturday, 25 July 2009 00:47 (fourteen years ago) link

Yeah that's what I was leaning towards initially but the second color is growing on me. Gametime decision, I think.

Here's a pic of the set up so far. I have a Voigtlander 12mm coming next week which will be my main lens I think. Thinking about picking up a cheap Russkie 50mm. (I sold all my Oly gear to finance this, in case you guys think I'm a rich bastard). Each of these cine lenses cost about $25.

http://i975.photobucket.com/albums/ae232/daggerlee/Photo2.jpg

Armageddon Two: Armageddon (dyao), Saturday, 25 July 2009 01:32 (fourteen years ago) link

Dante Stella weighs in.

He makes some good points but a lot of struck me as 'I am a pro photographer, how do you expect me to use this' elitism. Kinda like dudes who still stick by the mantra that "if it has a built-in flash, it ain't a professional camera.' What really me go WTF was the whole "if you can afford this you might as well buy a Epson R-D1 or M8 - they're only 50% and 150% more expensive than the EP-1."

Sadly, his point that legacy lenses may not ever be ideal on a digital sensor may be correct, from what I understand about sensors and how they work. Ah well!

a being that goes on two legs and is ungrateful (dyao), Monday, 27 July 2009 22:17 (fourteen years ago) link

DPReview gives the E-P1 a highly recommended with a few reservations. I got my 12mm in the mail today, for an equivalent of 24mm on the camera. Going to NYC this weekend, will give it a thorough working out.

a being that goes on two legs and is ungrateful (dyao), Thursday, 30 July 2009 01:55 (fourteen years ago) link

As so many of the other threads have disappeared into the mists of time and this is a good record of our various product lustings, I thought newsy stuff could go here.

So...two new Nikon bodies - D3000 and D300S.

The former is a 10.1MP entry-level model, basically the D60 with a bigger (but no higher-res) LCD and improved AF. The latter is the D300 with added 720p video recording and a faster continuous frame-rate (better than the prosumer Canons, dammit).

Which means: now is the time to go out and buy a D60.

Michael Jones, Thursday, 30 July 2009 13:54 (fourteen years ago) link

pretty yawnsome micro-updates from nikon there, along with the 70-200 and 18-200 lens updates. although i'm kind of relieved they're not working too hard to take my cash away at the moment.

rumoured new 24mm 1.4 and 35mm 1.4 would be much more interesting to me. and i definitely want an ep-1 sized camera at some point, although i'm not sure they've got it quite right. looking forward to seeing dyao's first shots.

joe, Thursday, 30 July 2009 14:07 (fourteen years ago) link

Yeah, as much as anything it seems to be an effort from Nikon to tidy up their product numbering. Dxxxx = consumer, Dxxx = prosumer, Dx = pro. Oh, hang on, what about the D90?

Michael Jones, Thursday, 30 July 2009 14:25 (fourteen years ago) link

Meanwhile, £16,000 gets you a Leica S2 medium-format DSLR. I wonder why they've gone with focal-plane AND lens-based shutter options? To allow the use of third-party MF lenses?

Michael Jones, Thursday, 30 July 2009 14:57 (fourteen years ago) link

Yes, I was wondering about that. It must be an all-bases-covered type of thing.

stet, Thursday, 30 July 2009 17:50 (fourteen years ago) link

Hah joe I dunno if my shots would be all that interesting!

NYC camera store hours are pretty awesome - not to be sacreligious/demeaning, but jeez, aren't any big ones not opened by orthodox Jews? I'm looking to arrive in the afternoon and both B&H and Adorama will be closed by 2, and closed on Saturday too.

a being that goes on two legs and is ungrateful (dyao), Thursday, 30 July 2009 20:24 (fourteen years ago) link

ok guys i am in no way good at photography nor do i really know anything about it, but having used an M8 for the last month (borrowed from my dad, who can afford these things) i can say that i never want to use anything else ever again

(braggin 2009)

ovum if you got 'em (gbx), Monday, 10 August 2009 12:30 (fourteen years ago) link

Pictures please!

Michael Jones, Monday, 10 August 2009 12:47 (fourteen years ago) link

gonna try and upload some, but i think my ugandan connection blows. i'll be back in the states in a couple days, so they'll be up then

i was actually gonna ask you guys about things like color correction, etc, etc, because i know nothing. or you could just do it for me :D

ovum if you got 'em (gbx), Monday, 10 August 2009 13:11 (fourteen years ago) link

We could all have a bash. I for one would be delighted to have some Leica M8 images in my Lightroom...

Michael Jones, Monday, 10 August 2009 13:41 (fourteen years ago) link

great. will upload soon. --ish

ovum if you got 'em (gbx), Tuesday, 11 August 2009 02:29 (fourteen years ago) link

so i have hte originals in iphoto, and there are a couple up on my africa thread

many of my favorites need to be cropped/color-corrected---should i just used iphoto for this, or should i try and get learn how to use something like aperture/lightroom (which i can get student prices on)

(full disclosure: i'm not even sure what color-correction MEANS, just that Michael Jones' pics always look so lush while a lot of mine are a little blown-out looking. due, likely, to wide-open apertures (i like narrow depth of field for portraits) and equatorial sun

ovum if you got 'em (gbx), Friday, 14 August 2009 14:36 (fourteen years ago) link

They look pretty good to me. What lens is on there, btw? Lens info isn't showing up in the EXIF data. (Just curious).

If I get 5min this afternoon I'll do what I reflexively do to most things I import into Lightroom (this is only the 640x427 images from the ILE thread, mind) and stick 'em up here. See what you think.

I'm no expert, I just generally fill in the blacks on the histogram, brighten a little, add clarity* and vibrance*, knock out colour noise in the shadows, maybe a gentle film-like S-shape on the tone curve if appropriate. But I do often shoot quite saturated JPEGs to begin with, so this is all kinda moot. (* LR terms that don't necessarily translate to other retouching software).

Michael Jones, Friday, 14 August 2009 14:46 (fourteen years ago) link

Lens: Leitz 28mm (wanted to bring a 50mm, but the mere fact that my dad was letting me borrow his bazillion dollar camera in a thirdworld country seemed like enough to me).

should i post up bigger/original size versions? i just sent them from iPhoto to Flickr in the interests of getting them on the web for other's perusal. i'm hoping to make prints of the ones i like, and to include them in a piece i'm writing, so that'll probably require the real-deal 4000xwhatever versions

ovum if you got 'em (gbx), Friday, 14 August 2009 14:52 (fourteen years ago) link

and thank you!

ovum if you got 'em (gbx), Friday, 14 August 2009 14:52 (fourteen years ago) link

Here you go - S-curve, bit of (attempted) recovery on some blown-out highlights (clothing, mostly), vibrance/clarity/(very slight) saturation boost, bit of bottom end on the histogram, brightened things (identical treatments to both):

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3515/3819993663_5c3ee10f44_o.jpg

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2437/3819993617_505dd4efa2_o.jpg

(Are you a Flickr contact of mine?)

Michael Jones, Friday, 14 August 2009 14:56 (fourteen years ago) link

oh yeah, they're definitely warmer looking, i like

and no, i don't think so---i've just seen the pics you've posted here on ilx

ovum if you got 'em (gbx), Friday, 14 August 2009 14:58 (fourteen years ago) link

Would love to have a bash at the originals - Leica does .dng rather its own proprietary raw format, is that right? Or did you shoot .jpg? YSI, perhaps?

This is me (and my wife) on Flickr: http://www.flickr.com/photos/pernfors88/

You could probably get similar results to the above with iPhoto though. I've never used it but I didn't do anything particularly fancy.

Michael Jones, Friday, 14 August 2009 15:22 (fourteen years ago) link

I made sure to shoot with the high-rez JPG, not DNG

i'm going to upload the full-rez versions when i get home from the cafe, can also zip and YSI, if you like, too

ovum if you got 'em (gbx), Friday, 14 August 2009 15:24 (fourteen years ago) link

I'll just grab the originals from Flickr, no worries. May not have a chance to do anything this weekend but it'll make a nice change from photos of the kids and grimy old London.

Michael Jones, Friday, 14 August 2009 15:28 (fourteen years ago) link

that would be dope, imo

ovum if you got 'em (gbx), Friday, 14 August 2009 15:30 (fourteen years ago) link

like, see, this one definitely needs cropping. get out of the frame, nathan!

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2539/3820979518_ca016e6360_o.jpg

ovum if you got 'em (gbx), Friday, 14 August 2009 16:11 (fourteen years ago) link

Ah, cropping. OK - that's a bit more subjective. Happy to have a bash anyhow. What's yr Flickr details?

Michael Jones, Friday, 14 August 2009 16:13 (fourteen years ago) link

ok so apparently iphoto won't send the fullsize versions to flickr, what the heck

ovum if you got 'em (gbx), Friday, 14 August 2009 17:10 (fourteen years ago) link

two months pass...

http://www.dpreview.com/news/0910/09100603leicax1preview.asp

http://a.img-dpreview.com/previews/LeicaX1/images/frontpage.jpg

high ISO performance looks great, makes the EP-1 and EP-2 look cheap though.

American Fear of Pranksterism (Ed), Monday, 9 November 2009 12:57 (fourteen years ago) link

yeah the high ISO shots had that 'film-grain' look to them, at least at web-viewing resolutions.

I'm extremely puzzled by the Ricoh system that was just announced - who would ever pick it over M4/3 or an entry level Canikon DSLR, especially when in its large sensor configuration it's actually bigger than a E-P1 or GF1?

囧 (dyao), Wednesday, 11 November 2009 02:44 (fourteen years ago) link

according to Michael R.'s take at LL, the X1 has a nearly silent shutter - but about a quarter of a second shutter lag. why can't you get it right Leica????

囧 (dyao), Friday, 13 November 2009 04:06 (fourteen years ago) link

one month passes...

so i think i'm getting a cam for xmas

but which one????

being being kiss-ass fake nice (gbx), Sunday, 13 December 2009 00:31 (fourteen years ago) link

nine months pass...

*swoon*

dayo, Monday, 20 September 2010 12:34 (thirteen years ago) link

Was completely psyched til I found out it's not a real rangefinder (ie Leica killer at $1000-1500).

Still kind of psyched if the autofocus is fast. A camera like that needs to have excellent reaction times. The fiddliness and slowness of the E-PL1/etc. turned me off of them.

a cross between lily allen and fetal alcohol syndrome (milo z), Thursday, 23 September 2010 20:05 (thirteen years ago) link

two weeks pass...

yeah that thing looks RAD

does it shoot RAW?

the only truffuluther on ilx (gbx), Saturday, 9 October 2010 19:45 (thirteen years ago) link

It does.

a cross between lily allen and fetal alcohol syndrome (milo z), Sunday, 10 October 2010 09:36 (thirteen years ago) link

lately I've found that I've become pretty good at guesstimating focus. so if it just has a real focus scale on the lens I'd be happy.

dayo, Sunday, 10 October 2010 09:49 (thirteen years ago) link

or, even if there was some way to set hyperfocal distance through the menus. and then just frame using the (optical) viewfinder. swoon

dayo, Sunday, 10 October 2010 09:49 (thirteen years ago) link

What camera is that pic of?

stet, Sunday, 10 October 2010 13:46 (thirteen years ago) link

http://cameraquest.com/voigt_5015_nokton_classic.htm

Pricing "not announced" uh huh

stet, Friday, 1 February 2013 02:20 (eleven years ago) link

lomo are introducing some aerochrome-esque film btw. i sorta think of their film as just weird rebadged bait or people who don't know you can just buy film in regular camera stores but i will play around w/some purple-making film.

schlump, Friday, 1 February 2013 03:16 (eleven years ago) link

anyone ever made redscale film by flipping it backwards?

❏❐❑❒ (gr8080), Friday, 1 February 2013 03:35 (eleven years ago) link

two years pass...

i think i'm gonna pick up the new richo gr d with the aps-c sensor

:)

, Saturday, 15 August 2015 16:37 (eight years ago) link

*ricoh

, Saturday, 15 August 2015 16:37 (eight years ago) link

:)

jason waterfalls (gbx), Saturday, 15 August 2015 18:01 (eight years ago) link

two weeks pass...

https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/peak-design/the-everyday-messenger-a-bag-for-cameras-and-essen

I was looking for a bag and then I found a bag, and heaven knows I'm miserable now.

suffeeciant attreebution (aldo), Saturday, 29 August 2015 19:08 (eight years ago) link

oh that does look nice

jason waterfalls (gbx), Saturday, 29 August 2015 19:28 (eight years ago) link

one month passes...

This looks pretty interesting: https://light.co

schwantz, Friday, 9 October 2015 16:26 (eight years ago) link

Yeah, I was looking at that the other day. Don't doubt the tech, or that something like this is probably the future, but do you think the gallery pics are up to much? They look like superior iPhone snaps. And the chess piece macro shot has got some major artefacts on it, probably a result of all that image combination.

Michael Jones, Friday, 9 October 2015 19:50 (eight years ago) link

Yeah it seems like whenever some company tries something new (Foveon, Lytro for example) in digital photography, the results don't live up to the hype. Nothing really beats one big-ass sensor (yet).

schwantz, Friday, 9 October 2015 20:01 (eight years ago) link

one month passes...

Quite a markdown!

http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/1134592-REG/hasselblad_1100182_lunar_camera_brown.html

schwantz, Wednesday, 2 December 2015 23:56 (eight years ago) link

one month passes...

I've got that Peak Design bag now and blimey it's nice.

suffeeciant attreebution (aldo), Wednesday, 6 January 2016 14:11 (eight years ago) link

https://www.keh.com/226529/fuji-medium-format-gw670iii-90-f3-5-67

only then I'd have to buy a scanner and expensive film and processing and yada yada yada

Kiarostami bag (milo z), Thursday, 7 January 2016 05:41 (eight years ago) link

I don't even want to know how much film has gone up since the last time I bought any (2011ish)

Kiarostami bag (milo z), Thursday, 7 January 2016 05:41 (eight years ago) link


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