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Without fetching my giant 'R Wright NO.1' foam finger and waving it about, See-Saw and IWBSN are both fantastic sketches of tiny little moments of psychedelic ennui of the kind that Rick captured perfectly. People will write them off as a load of tum-tee-tum bullshit (himself included even perhaps) but not me. The pre-chorus of IWBSN is the juiciest bit of psychedelia, see also 'I open the door to an empty room, Then I forgeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeet' from Paintbox

Maresn3st, Thursday, 16 December 2021 22:51 (two years ago) link

The pre-chorus of IWBSN is the juiciest bit of psychedelia

That's true, and the chorus and coda are worthy, shame about the verse which is as bad as everyone says.

Halfway there but for you, Thursday, 16 December 2021 23:01 (two years ago) link

noooo I love the little do-doodle-oos in the verses

chaos goblin line cook (sleeve), Thursday, 16 December 2021 23:05 (two years ago) link

I love the whole thing, but I can totally understand why it's not liked.

Maresn3st, Thursday, 16 December 2021 23:14 (two years ago) link

do-doodle-oos-do-doodle-RULES

Precious, Grace, Hill & Beard LTD. (C. Grisso/McCain), Thursday, 16 December 2021 23:17 (two years ago) link

Where were you all in 1968, when it needed defending?

Halfway there but for you, Thursday, 16 December 2021 23:36 (two years ago) link

I was two and I'm sure I would have loved it if I had heard it (which seems unlikely, but you never know)

chaos goblin line cook (sleeve), Thursday, 16 December 2021 23:39 (two years ago) link

I'm imagining a world where this and "Dogs" by the Who became the biggest hits of 1968, changed both bands trajectories into whimsical musical theatre, and set rock history on a different path.

Halfway there but for you, Thursday, 16 December 2021 23:52 (two years ago) link

I've often wondered if it would be possible to make a satisfying LP comprised of only Rick Wright PF songs. I think it would fall a bit short. But his songs are definitely some of my favourites - See Saw included (and Paintbox would make my top 5).

One of the surprises of that remixed Momentary Lapse was being able to sit through Dogs of War without having an extreme allergic reaction.

lemmy incaution (emsworth), Thursday, 16 December 2021 23:54 (two years ago) link

^It absolutely would

Maresn3st, Thursday, 16 December 2021 23:56 (two years ago) link

This may well have been posted somwhere upthread, but here 'tis again -

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oLEwuo5R-tQ

Maresn3st, Thursday, 16 December 2021 23:58 (two years ago) link

Some of my dislike of "Dogs of War" came from seeing it live in 1987.
They showed a film of hounds running through the woods towards a big mansion over the intro music; it was clear we were meant to be on the edge of our seats. The dogs run up the stairs, down a hallway, into a room, towards a man standing by a desk with his back to the camera... tension! The man turns around; it's Gilmour and he's meant to mouth the words "Dogs of War" just as the real Gilmour starts singing the song onstage. However, the sync must have been off by a second or two, because this giant Gilmour on the screen has his mouth moving before the singing starts, and the whole effect was idiotic. Plus the sax player with the terrible haircut.

Halfway there but for you, Friday, 17 December 2021 00:06 (two years ago) link

Here's a quote from Guy Pratt's book.

‘Dogs Of War’ was another full-on onslaught, and Jon’s big nerve-racking moment. The song started with a film of Alsatians running out of the sea, and the music had to be perfectly in sync, as the film ended with a shot of David mouthing the line ‘Dogs of war’ as the real David sang the line Jon had to hit ‘start’ on his sequencer at the exact moment the second dog from the right’s back left leg hit the water. No pressure there, then.

Maresn3st, Friday, 17 December 2021 00:17 (two years ago) link

Thanks for that information, I still prefer to blame the sax player with the terrible haircut.

Halfway there but for you, Friday, 17 December 2021 01:30 (two years ago) link

I've often wondered if it would be possible to make a satisfying LP comprised of only Rick Wright PF songs.

likewise. i wish he had written a few more songs with PF, though saying that i have never bothered to check out his solo albums.

i never followed Gimour era PF but do love this Richard Wright Remember A Day tribute he recorded just days after he left us.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=39C_ZW5k4nI

stirmonster, Friday, 17 December 2021 01:37 (two years ago) link

I haven't heard Wet Dream for more than 30 years, it's missing a certain "pay attention to this" quality. Wright really benefited from flashier collaborators who could put his skills into more of a context than he was able to generate on his own.

Halfway there but for you, Friday, 17 December 2021 02:12 (two years ago) link

That Remember a Day was from Jools Holland...and has Phil Manzanera on guitar. I think if you watch the whole thing it's that he was going to be on the show to promote whatever thing he was doing but it was like 2 weeks after Wright's passing and he's really broken up about it and then they do this. Such a great song.

dan selzer, Friday, 17 December 2021 04:33 (two years ago) link

FYI, all of the copyright dumped official bootlegs are on USENET now.

Elvis Telecom, Thursday, 23 December 2021 05:46 (two years ago) link

TIL usenet still exists

StanM, Thursday, 23 December 2021 08:48 (two years ago) link

The first rule of usenet is that we don't talk about usenet

doug watson, Thursday, 23 December 2021 11:04 (two years ago) link

Some of these are better quality than what I had so I'm happy for the upgrade. Big thumbs up for keeping the original bootleg cover art too.

Elvis Telecom, Thursday, 23 December 2021 11:43 (two years ago) link

Just checking that 20 Worst Pink Floyd songs list, wtf, half of those are great!

I Can't See Gervais In My Mind (Tom D.), Thursday, 23 December 2021 11:48 (two years ago) link

most of their worst songs will come from atom heart mother and the final cut!

xzanfar, Thursday, 23 December 2021 12:56 (two years ago) link

The only bad thing on "Atom Heart Mother" is "If".

I Can't See Gervais In My Mind (Tom D.), Thursday, 23 December 2021 12:57 (two years ago) link

And the only bad thing on The Final Cut is "Not Now John"

joni mitchell jarre (anagram), Thursday, 23 December 2021 13:06 (two years ago) link

most of their bad songs are on momentary lapse of reason… imo

STOCK FIST-PUMPER BRAD (BradNelson), Thursday, 23 December 2021 13:18 (two years ago) link

cosign

joni mitchell jarre (anagram), Thursday, 23 December 2021 13:27 (two years ago) link

I’ve never dug deep into Floyd bootlegs. Which of this new dump do people especially stan for?

Lavator Shemmelpennick, Thursday, 23 December 2021 13:36 (two years ago) link

xxxp funny, that's the only cut I really like on that album. ("The Fletcher Memorial Home" is probably the only other one I'd listen to again.)

birdistheword, Thursday, 23 December 2021 17:18 (two years ago) link

Critical reaction to the suite has always been mixed, and all band members have expressed negativity toward it in recent times. Gilmour has said the album was "a load of rubbish. We were at a real down point ... I think we were scraping the barrel a bit at that period" and "a good idea but it was dreadful... Atom Heart Mother sounds like we didn't have any idea between us, but we became much more prolific after it." Similarly, in a 1984 interview on BBC Radio 1, Waters said "If somebody said to me now – right – here's a million pounds, go out and play Atom Heart Mother, I'd say you must be fucking joking."

xzanfar, Thursday, 23 December 2021 21:57 (two years ago) link

It's been long established that if Gilmour and Waters hate something it's almost certainly worth listening to.

I Can't See Gervais In My Mind (Tom D.), Thursday, 23 December 2021 22:08 (two years ago) link

Anyway, hasn't Gilmour played the title track a few times in recent years?

I Can't See Gervais In My Mind (Tom D.), Thursday, 23 December 2021 22:09 (two years ago) link

Atom Heart Mother is at least 75% great. Pretentious hippie twaddle, but what twaddle!

war mice (hardcore dilettante), Friday, 24 December 2021 03:41 (two years ago) link

I remember seeing footage of Gilmour sitting in with a PInk Floyd cover band to play Atom Heart Mother, which I thought was a pretty great thing to do. Imagine being in a PF tribute and playing with big Dave himself! I think Ron Geesin was involved in the performance, so it wasn’t totally random.

lemmy incaution (emsworth), Friday, 24 December 2021 04:27 (two years ago) link

tbf Nick Mason is in a Pink Floyd cover band.

The 25 Best Songs Ever Ranked In Order (Deflatormouse), Friday, 24 December 2021 04:29 (two years ago) link

A very good one!

I Can't See Gervais In My Mind (Tom D.), Friday, 24 December 2021 09:38 (two years ago) link

Wasn't too impressed when I saw them at the Roundhouse in 2018. After a promising start, they played most of the songs with a fast the same insistent tempo and no variation - it was like early Pink Floyd mixed with the sense of timing of a Bavarian Ompah Band.

Luna Schlosser, Friday, 24 December 2021 10:48 (two years ago) link

I was ready for that list to have Corporal Clegg (which rules) on it, but not most of the rest of Saucerful (which is my favourite PF album). Violence

imago, Friday, 24 December 2021 10:53 (two years ago) link

Some unseen 8mm footage of the Wall live has been upped, apparently from different London dates, with sound too.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dBCEKUpMssw

Maresn3st, Tuesday, 28 December 2021 14:28 (two years ago) link

so which one is pink? it is not gilmour because he was not there when it was first named and it was not klose because it was still named so when he left early and it was not barrett because he went mad and it still kept going and it was not waters when he thought the final cut was the end and it came back and it was not wright because he was not officially part of it when they made amlor so pink must be mason who was in the beginning till the end!

xzanfar, Tuesday, 28 December 2021 19:19 (two years ago) link

Best to address that question from a non-dual perspective. When you investigate more closely, you'll find that there is no Pink.

doug watson, Tuesday, 28 December 2021 20:04 (two years ago) link

Matter of fact it's all Pink.

joni mitchell jarre (anagram), Tuesday, 28 December 2021 21:18 (two years ago) link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_plPOedWjbw

xzanfar, Thursday, 30 December 2021 21:56 (two years ago) link

And a genie appeared and granted David Gilmour 3 wishes ...

“I’d like a joint.”

“Your wish is my command.”

“Wow. Ok, I wish Paul McCartney was here with me.”

“It is so, master. You have one more wish remaining.”

“Make McCartney look more like a struggling magician.” pic.twitter.com/zGg1jWpVhJ

— Super 70s Sports (@Super70sSports) January 5, 2022

Precious, Grace, Hill & Beard LTD. (C. Grisso/McCain), Wednesday, 5 January 2022 03:23 (two years ago) link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FKZZEqoXFaU

Starts at 19'13"

Maresn3st, Sunday, 16 January 2022 13:57 (two years ago) link

i am liking the post barrett pre and post waters dominated period i call the other side of the moon and i ordered on cd
A Saucerful of Secrets (1968)
More (1969)
Meddle (1971)
Obscured by Clouds (1972)
A Momentary Lapse of Reason (1987)

xzanfar, Sunday, 16 January 2022 17:55 (two years ago) link

The adrift period post-Syd, pre-Atom Heart Mother is their most interesting and rewarding imo, and probably what I return to the most having burnt myself out on Syd as a bratty tween. Not so much the proper albums but could probably put together a comp of stuff from that time incl. bootlegs, radio, soundtracks etc that I'd prefer over any of their albums.

A few of the best things are included on 'The Early Years', you should pirate that.

The 25 Best Songs Ever Ranked In Order (Deflatormouse), Sunday, 16 January 2022 19:25 (two years ago) link

Re: Post-Barrett era, something I posted 5 years ago:

Mix tape I put together in (probably) 1984 after getting the Dark Side of the Moo bootleg, the Holy Grail of then-unavailable non-LP Floyd tracks:

- Side 1
Cymbaline
Lucifer Sam
It Would Be So Nice
Take Up Thy Stethoscope and Walk
Ibiza Bar
Chapter 24
Point Me at the Sky
See Emily Play
Jugband Blues
Arnold Layne
Candy and a Current Bun
Corporal Clegg
The Nile Song
Green Is the Colour

- Side 2
The Grand Vizier's Garden Party, Part 1: Entrance (just the flute part)
Astronomy Domine (Ummagumma live version)
Let There Be More Light
Embryo
Sysyphus, Part 4 (the first 3 minutes, with bird SFX leading nicely into...)
Grantchester Meadow
Set the Controls for the Heart of the Sun
A Saucerful of Secrets
The Grand Vizier's Garden Party, Part 3: Exit

Hideous Lump, Sunday, 16 January 2022 22:54 (two years ago) link

Dark side of the moo was life changing. I posted my half hour invention of Floyd as late 60s psyche folk band somewhere above.

dan selzer, Sunday, 16 January 2022 23:27 (two years ago) link

agree, one of the best bootlegs ever

bad milk blood robot (sleeve), Sunday, 16 January 2022 23:47 (two years ago) link


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