dont think were going back to physical dials and gauges, but i see no reason to not have normal door handles
Oh but won't someone please think of the dystopian science fiction filmmakers?
Because surely there will be a scene where someone desperately needs to enter and start their car, but their fingertips have been sliced off, so they can't get in using fingerprint recognition, so they're like helplessly stuck outside their perfectly functional car
― Jeremy Ironist (Ye Mad Puffin), Tuesday, 14 December 2021 17:19 (two years ago) link
real live version standing in rainy parking lot charging your dead phone on the outlet in the bumper of your car so you can get into your car
― lag∞n, Tuesday, 14 December 2021 17:23 (two years ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4XJxFAoiWSY
― Jeremy Ironist (Ye Mad Puffin), Tuesday, 14 December 2021 17:27 (two years ago) link
Micro Box reminds me of the Johnny Cab.
― ma dmac's fury road (PBKR), Tuesday, 14 December 2021 17:34 (two years ago) link
fixed it
Oh, you'd have to be a Daddy Warbucks to afford that thing!
― pplains, Tuesday, 14 December 2021 18:08 (two years ago) link
Toyota grimly joins the subscription service crowd. Credit card declined for your car key sub? No car for youhttps://www.engadget.com/toyota-key-fob-remote-start-function-requires-subscription-111606852.html
― Elvis Telecom, Tuesday, 14 December 2021 22:33 (two years ago) link
keys didn't need to be reinvented
― Nedlene Grendel as Basenji Holmo (map), Tuesday, 14 December 2021 23:19 (two years ago) link
that shit is so foul
― lag∞n, Wednesday, 15 December 2021 00:08 (two years ago) link
Everyone is doing it too.
https://www.nytimes.com/2021/12/07/business/stellantis-auto-software.htmlhttps://www.caranddriver.com/features/a37419225/on-demand-options-automakers/https://www.wired.com/story/subscriptions-automakers-mimic-netflix/
General Motors told investors this month that subscription services could bring in an additional $20 billion to $25 billion annually by 2030. The company says 4.2 million customers already pay for its OnStar security services, which include an app that costs $15 a month. Electric vehicle startup Rivian said in recent financial filings that it could bring in an additional $15,500 over the life of each car with software-enabled services, including an autonomous driving feature and subscriptions for infotainment, internet connectivity, and diagnostics. BMW last summer created buzz—and consternation—with plans to charge, through subscription fees, for features like heated seats. In the US, the automaker offers subscriptions for an onboard dash cam and a remote car starter.Over the past few years, automotive companies have laid out plans to transform from “being an industry that sells products to an industry that sells services and products,” says Brian Irwin, who heads the automotive and mobility practice at the consultancy Accenture. Today’s vehicles come with multiple computer chips, cameras, and sensors—and thus, the tantalizing opportunity to use detailed data to both create and sell new products.
Over the past few years, automotive companies have laid out plans to transform from “being an industry that sells products to an industry that sells services and products,” says Brian Irwin, who heads the automotive and mobility practice at the consultancy Accenture. Today’s vehicles come with multiple computer chips, cameras, and sensors—and thus, the tantalizing opportunity to use detailed data to both create and sell new products.
― Elvis Telecom, Wednesday, 15 December 2021 00:25 (two years ago) link
hate it!
― lag∞n, Wednesday, 15 December 2021 00:27 (two years ago) link
OnStar? Don't need it.Autonomous driving feature? Cruise control's about all I'd need.Infotainment? Internet? I've got this phone here that I already pay a monthly fee for.
Heated seats? DON'T THEY FUCKING DARE.
Seriously. I bought a 25-year-old car a couple of years ago with heated seats. They're about the only thing that works on that car. And had they somehow been for subscribers only back in 1995, I'm sure they would've been bricked by now.
― pplains, Wednesday, 15 December 2021 03:56 (two years ago) link
im gonna start charging the car companies a subscription to me paying their asses
― class project pat (m bison), Wednesday, 15 December 2021 03:59 (two years ago) link
a guy from stellantis was saying the other day that amazon “started as an online bookstore” and that’s how they see themselves, at the first step of a journey that will take them from mere car makers to global colossuses of “mobility services” that follow you wherever you are. i just don’t see it. they can’t even make software for their own cars that people want to use.
― Tracer Hand, Wednesday, 15 December 2021 09:25 (two years ago) link
pplains, thought you were dissing heated seats for a second and was going to throw down.
― ma dmac's fury road (PBKR), Wednesday, 15 December 2021 12:30 (two years ago) link
from mere car makers to global colossuses of “mobility services” that follow you wherever you are.
― Tracer Hand, Wednesday, December 15, 2021 4:25 AM (four hours ago) bookmarkflaglink
yeah this is how people justify teslas stock price too + theyre going to dominate the new reality of putting a battery in everything
― lag∞n, Wednesday, 15 December 2021 13:57 (two years ago) link
whats funny is tesla hasnt besides bailing out musks shitty solar company shown any indication towards moving beyond personal cars, most companies seriously working on level 5 self driving are looking at a robo taxi model because the technology is too expensive for a personal vehicle, but tesla just used a cheaper approach that does not work because theyre committed to personal vehicles
― lag∞n, Wednesday, 15 December 2021 14:34 (two years ago) link
and then they still charge you $10k for it lol, good work if you can get it
― lag∞n, Wednesday, 15 December 2021 14:36 (two years ago) link
Would never diss heated seats.
When I say they're about the only things that work in the car, I'm also including the heating system, so yeah, they do come in handy.
― pplains, Wednesday, 15 December 2021 14:55 (two years ago) link
That IS the heating system buddy
― Guayaquil (eephus!), Wednesday, 15 December 2021 15:26 (two years ago) link
You're more right than you might think. My vents are blocked, but the defroster kinda still works.
― pplains, Wednesday, 15 December 2021 15:39 (two years ago) link
wonder if people will start hacking their way around those subscription services, theyre already in the computers tuning engines and whatnot
― lag∞n, Wednesday, 15 December 2021 16:22 (two years ago) link
jailbreaking your own car. cool future.
― Nedlene Grendel as Basenji Holmo (map), Wednesday, 15 December 2021 16:41 (two years ago) link
farmers do exactly that with their tractors https://www.vice.com/en/article/xykkkd/why-american-farmers-are-hacking-their-tractors-with-ukrainian-firmware
― lag∞n, Wednesday, 15 December 2021 17:14 (two years ago) link
I’ve been saying for a while now that I fully expect a future with region locked vehicles. I didn’t think of the subscription models tho, jeez.
― Kim, Wednesday, 15 December 2021 18:10 (two years ago) link
prayers have been answered
https://www.carexpert.com.au/car-news/nissan-uk-celebrates-35-years-with-electric-bluebird-restomod
https://i.imgur.com/hHGU0M8.jpg
― 龜, Friday, 17 December 2021 13:41 (two years ago) link
chill out concept
https://i.imgur.com/nwuBbAu.png
― lag∞n, Friday, 17 December 2021 13:56 (two years ago) link
I want to be a forward-looking denizen of the present but that article made me realize how deep in my bones I want an electric restomod of the ‘87 Camry I had in high schoolit had rubber bumpers!
― nicole, Friday, 17 December 2021 15:42 (two years ago) link
https://arstechnica.com/cars/2021/12/heres-how-much-hyundais-cool-new-ioniq-5-ev-will-cost/
oof. guess i'm getting a hybrid f150 then
― 𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Friday, 17 December 2021 17:57 (two years ago) link
one interesting thing in that toyota electric lineup reveal was they said that lexus will be all electric in usa by 2030 but did not say the same for toyota which leads me to believe that they think electric cars will be expensive for a while, tho obvs there are other concerns like access to charging
― lag∞n, Friday, 17 December 2021 21:44 (two years ago) link
you should sell the aston martin on bringatrailer
I was already making plans to list it on BAT, but once I realized just how much bureaucracy and weird buyer/seller culture I'd be stepping into I decided to work with an agent. He's a top 5 BAT seller and has all the crew and resources to market the shit out of it to anyone that's cash rich and has a 007 complex. He takes a fee of course, but I'm confidently betting that will be balanced by whatever value an agent can extract from it.
More importantly, working with an agent leapfrogs me over the two-month glut of cars that are on BAT right now. Too many people are unloading vintage/collectable cars right now, so BAT is scheduling things out as best they can because sellers were complaining that too much competition was eating away at value. Compounding that, at least six to seven large auto collections are hitting the market over the next six months because (paraphrasing) "the old man died of covid and the kids don't want his cars" but big-time car collectors and the cartel that surround them are all attuned to this and attempting to collectively deal with the flood. idgaf, I don't want to be the one waiting on other Vantages to pass through BAT, I wanna make someone else wait before the whole internal combustion economy crashes down.
In good news, I have a build date on my MM-E GT! Feb 7, 2022
― Elvis Telecom, Thursday, 23 December 2021 06:58 (two years ago) link
what a world
― lag∞n, Thursday, 23 December 2021 15:35 (two years ago) link
that's awesome man hope you sell it for a good price... post it here when it goes up haha
― 龜, Friday, 24 December 2021 00:57 (two years ago) link
I think EV cars are the trend of the present and the future. I'm driving a Ram 1500 for work. I will buy an EV in about 2 to 3 years. But I still wonder, can EVs be used to tow?
― Andrew007, Tuesday, 28 December 2021 03:44 (two years ago) link
yes
― class project pat (m bison), Tuesday, 28 December 2021 03:46 (two years ago) link
There's a few demo videos out there of F-150 Lightnings and Rivians towing things. Undoubtedly, we'll see a lot more of them as they get out there.
― Elvis Telecom, Tuesday, 28 December 2021 04:56 (two years ago) link
Buy my car
― Elvis Telecom, Wednesday, 12 January 2022 21:35 (two years ago) link
Drool. That blue on tan interior is really sharp.
― Bullet Boys 2022 Complete "Freakshow" album live! (PBKR), Wednesday, 12 January 2022 21:40 (two years ago) link
hell yeah! glws
― 龜, Wednesday, 12 January 2022 21:55 (two years ago) link
I love the blue, but the tan dashboard casts a nasty reflection on the inside of the windshield. Lots of glare if you're coming down Angeles Crest Highway in the late afternoon.
― Elvis Telecom, Wednesday, 12 January 2022 21:58 (two years ago) link
O how I wouldn't be able to stand the California sun casting its brilliance across the dashboard of my Aston Martin as I cruised down Angeles Crest Highway in the late afternoon. The very thought sickens me!
― pplains, Wednesday, 12 January 2022 22:55 (two years ago) link
How do you only do 1k miles a year, mind blown
― pandmac (darraghmac), Wednesday, 12 January 2022 23:00 (two years ago) link
It sat in a garage undriven for over five years because my mom was too ill to drive.
― Elvis Telecom, Wednesday, 12 January 2022 23:31 (two years ago) link
my car has that many miles but way more cheerios
― 𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Wednesday, 12 January 2022 23:37 (two years ago) link
(It is a sweet car, E.T.)
― pplains, Wednesday, 12 January 2022 23:52 (two years ago) link
extremely sick ride et
― lag∞n, Wednesday, 12 January 2022 23:59 (two years ago) link
this guy says you've timed it perfectly too fwiw
You heard it here first:Demand at used car auctions has started slowing down.This will be in the news in 30-60 days.— CarDealershipGuy (@GuyDealership) January 12, 2022
*Hot take!I attended the largest used car auction in the world today:Manheim Pennsylvania.Here’s what’s happening on the ground floor:(1/5)— CarDealershipGuy (@GuyDealership) January 15, 2022
― 𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Saturday, 15 January 2022 06:42 (two years ago) link
Manheim may be the largest wholesale auction (cars largely taken from dealership trade-ins) in quantity, but by dollar value, Bring A Trailer is utterly crushing all the other auctions including Pebble Beach, Amelia Island, Scottsdale, & Mecum.
I wonder how much Turo has been eating into the rental market since covid turned it all into a clusterfuck?
― Elvis Telecom, Saturday, 15 January 2022 21:44 (two years ago) link
feel like only a matter of time before BaT changes to a percentage of the purchase price business model vs. what they currently have, which i believe is a flat rate?
― 龜, Saturday, 15 January 2022 22:38 (two years ago) link
wouldn't call this concerning (it should be possible to by a pre-9/11 camry) but looks like the used car boom is wrapping up
This is concerning:Multiple sources are telling me that Carvana is severely slashing their instant trade-in offers.One person I spoke with was offered $7,000 less for his trade-in than he was earlier this month.AFAIK, this is unprecedented.(1/n)— CarDealershipGuy (@GuyDealership) January 25, 2022
― 𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Tuesday, 25 January 2022 21:39 (two years ago) link