Is the US a dystopia?

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I can’t live without potatoes

A Pile of Ants (Boring, Maryland), Monday, 13 December 2021 14:19 (two years ago) link

-LL McCooljay

hopefully this review helped someone (Neanderthal), Monday, 13 December 2021 15:46 (two years ago) link

It would have happened eventually.

Christine Green Leafy Dragon Indigo, Monday, 13 December 2021 16:40 (two years ago) link

I can’t live without potatoes

OTM

When Smeato Met Moaty (Tom D.), Monday, 13 December 2021 16:56 (two years ago) link

Lol, Neanderthal.

Santa’s Got a Brand New Borad (James Redd and the Blecchs), Monday, 13 December 2021 17:14 (two years ago) link

NEW: Drone startup BRINC, which just pulled a $25 million VC round, says it was inspired by the 2017 Vegas shooting to build non-violent robots. I obtained a video showing their original mission was a border patrol drone system designed to tase migrants https://t.co/TclkWOO3eM

— Sam Biddle (@samfbiddle) December 13, 2021

mookieproof, Monday, 13 December 2021 17:51 (two years ago) link

It would have happened eventually.

Right but I'm saying the timeline where America turns the Earth into a toilet wasn't necessarily predetermined.

recovering internet addict/shitposter (viborg), Monday, 13 December 2021 18:46 (two years ago) link

Maybe ecocide is the dharma of the human race idk.

recovering internet addict/shitposter (viborg), Monday, 13 December 2021 18:47 (two years ago) link

this is all god's fault. god put the oil in the ground, fully formed, 8000 years ago

my hands are always in my pockets or gesturing. (Karl Malone), Monday, 13 December 2021 18:49 (two years ago) link

it was all predetermined

my hands are always in my pockets or gesturing. (Karl Malone), Monday, 13 December 2021 18:49 (two years ago) link

idk these guys predicted it pretty early

https://i.ibb.co/f4P96K0/index.jpg

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hopefully this review helped someone (Neanderthal), Monday, 13 December 2021 18:50 (two years ago) link

Yeah I never loved the band but those album titles stuck with me.

recovering internet addict/shitposter (viborg), Monday, 13 December 2021 19:42 (two years ago) link

Automatic thread bump. This poll is closing tomorrow.

System, Tuesday, 14 December 2021 00:01 (two years ago) link

personally idgi. fresh produce in american supermarkets is quite bad and expensive, every major city in the world has decent markets, etc. i guess it's better if it's brightly lit and you can listen to an instrumental soft jazz version of after the gold rush? https://t.co/g3b5LOgBcD

— joolsd (@joolsd) December 14, 2021

xyzzzz__, Tuesday, 14 December 2021 13:59 (two years ago) link

which Publix plays that?!? I'm happy if I get early '80 Boz Scaggs.

So who you gonna call? The martini police (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 14 December 2021 14:12 (two years ago) link

I regret starting a thread that functions as an invitation to post the most depressing news you can find, but more narrowly the degree to which the US seems to be embracing core elements of the most prominent fictional dystopias is pretty striking! Sadly not cyberpunk this time:

https://pen.org/scope-speed-educational-gag-orders-worsening-across-country/

And it’s getting worse. In the month since the report’s release, state lawmakers introduced 12 new bills, bringing the total to a staggering 66 educational gag orders for the year in 26 states, 12 of which have passed into law.

Here’s what’s happening:

The recent group of bills includes seven in Missouri and one each in New Hampshire, New Jersey, North Dakota, Oklahoma, and South Carolina.
All 12 of these bills target K–12 schools, four include provisions that would impact colleges and universities, and four include a focus on state agencies, other state-funded institutions, and “places of learning.”
Six of these bills specifically ban “critical race theory,” making a total of 20 state-level bills introduced this year with such explicit prohibitions.
Six of these bills contain explicit prohibitions against teaching or using curricular materials from “The 1619 Project,” bringing the total of these to 17 for the year.

rob, Tuesday, 14 December 2021 17:04 (two years ago) link

xxp I remember back in the 80s, we hosted some soviet kids. When we took them to the supermarket, they lost their shit.

I think the original tweet is referencing that, not that Safeway is better than a local French produce market.

DJI, Tuesday, 14 December 2021 17:29 (two years ago) link

we do have abundant food (not everywhere, of course) of mostly mediocre quality. it's ok.

the critical race theory mess is one of the factors in favor of dystopia

towards fungal computer (harbl), Tuesday, 14 December 2021 17:46 (two years ago) link

to me

towards fungal computer (harbl), Tuesday, 14 December 2021 17:46 (two years ago) link

xxp I remember back in the 80s, we hosted some soviet kids. When we took them to the supermarket, they lost their shit.

I think the original tweet is referencing that, not that Safeway is better than a local French produce market.


Why should that matter or be remotely relevant, though? That was forty years ago.

mardheamac (gyac), Tuesday, 14 December 2021 17:48 (two years ago) link

So was communism.

DJI, Tuesday, 14 December 2021 18:00 (two years ago) link

I guess that’s the kind of joke that lands better with boomers.

mardheamac (gyac), Tuesday, 14 December 2021 18:59 (two years ago) link

And that's the kind of joke that lands better with people from 2017.

DJI, Tuesday, 14 December 2021 19:18 (two years ago) link

the tweet is responding to libertarians tweeting photos of american grocery stores to prove a point

towards fungal computer (harbl), Tuesday, 14 December 2021 19:21 (two years ago) link

american supermarkets are among the purest products of american capitalism and therefore accurately reflect all our most popular theories about health and happiness, from gluttony to asceticism, all packaged in convenient sizes for easy consumption. it's a design that's been copied all over the world, with appropriate modifications to suit local tastes and incomes. almost any praise or criticism you want to make about supermarkets can be justified using real world examples.

more difficult than I look (Aimless), Tuesday, 14 December 2021 19:26 (two years ago) link

from gluttony to asceticism, all packaged in convenient sizes for easy consumption

cf. Randall Jarrell's A Sad Heart at the Supermarket (1960) and the companion poem "Next Day"

Moving from Cheer to Joy, from Joy to All

Jeremy Ironist (Ye Mad Puffin), Tuesday, 14 December 2021 19:36 (two years ago) link

You want to know dystopia? Sometimes I have to go to three different supermarkets to get everything I need.

Jeff, Tuesday, 14 December 2021 19:58 (two years ago) link

I regret starting a thread that functions as an invitation to post the most depressing news you can find

You cannot design a thread that wouldnt fall prey to this within ten mins have you seen this site lately

fix up luke shawp (darraghmac), Tuesday, 14 December 2021 20:15 (two years ago) link

no.

lol

DT, Tuesday, 14 December 2021 23:31 (two years ago) link

Automatic thread bump. This poll's results are now in.

System, Wednesday, 15 December 2021 00:01 (two years ago) link

whew I had doubts

So who you gonna call? The martini police (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 15 December 2021 00:22 (two years ago) link

"I can't answer without sharing my personal definition of dystopia"

5 voters just laying it all down

my hands are always in my pockets or gesturing. (Karl Malone), Wednesday, 15 December 2021 03:24 (two years ago) link

https://t.co/fFOE6vEXOc pic.twitter.com/PPoldWoOdT

— District Sentinel (@TheDCSentinel) December 15, 2021

xyzzzz__, Wednesday, 15 December 2021 11:46 (two years ago) link

we should maybe do a "worst living american" poll

When Young Sheldon began to rap (forksclovetofu), Wednesday, 15 December 2021 15:26 (two years ago) link

impossible. polls are limited to only 50 choices

more difficult than I look (Aimless), Wednesday, 15 December 2021 17:37 (two years ago) link

maybe a poll to make the poll

When Young Sheldon began to rap (forksclovetofu), Wednesday, 15 December 2021 18:11 (two years ago) link

a poll of polls? better update the list of lists

my hands are always in my pockets or gesturing. (Karl Malone), Wednesday, 15 December 2021 18:18 (two years ago) link

don't visit ILB if you don't enjoy a poll of polls

towards fungal computer (harbl), Wednesday, 15 December 2021 18:36 (two years ago) link

glad we got this settled

chaos goblin line cook (sleeve), Wednesday, 15 December 2021 18:37 (two years ago) link

got it sordid

hopefully this review helped someone (Neanderthal), Wednesday, 15 December 2021 20:07 (two years ago) link

Is ILX a dystopia?

aegis philbin (crüt), Wednesday, 15 December 2021 20:09 (two years ago) link

just look around

Halfway there but for you, Wednesday, 15 December 2021 20:11 (two years ago) link

As of today, 50% of women in federal prisons are Indigenous.

This is genocide.

— martha paynter (@MarthPaynter) December 17, 2021

xyzzzz__, Saturday, 18 December 2021 13:08 (two years ago) link

Is the fact that's about Canada the point you're making or a mistake?

rob, Saturday, 18 December 2021 13:25 (two years ago) link

At first assumed US then saw the link below and posted because

xyzzzz__, Saturday, 18 December 2021 13:56 (two years ago) link

Kyle Rittenhouse takes the stage at TPUSA’s AmericaFest to thousands of cheering fans chanting his name. He even gets his own Kyle Rittenhouse-themed song to come out to. pic.twitter.com/PD7nkjpQ81

— AZ Right Wing Watch (@az_rww) December 21, 2021

xyzzzz__, Tuesday, 21 December 2021 12:02 (two years ago) link

Kyle has merely fulfilled every child's dream of running away to join the circus. Taking two lives in the process.

more difficult than I look (Aimless), Tuesday, 21 December 2021 15:56 (two years ago) link

Who could have seen THIS coming

Karl Malone, Tuesday, 21 December 2021 15:56 (two years ago) link

Most teachers I wouldn’t worry about them having guns aside from incompetence but there were a couple who strike me as potential problems on their own. The Vietnam vet who trapped a wasp and then proceeded to cut it up on his desk…

papal hotwife (milo z), Thursday, 25 April 2024 03:12 (seventeen hours ago) link

I used to be like well, at least we’re not Alabama and Mississippi. But now we are

I know, and a lot of Tennesseans have a hard time believing it. I have to keep telling people that we're the actual literal worst state for a lot of this neo-confederate hateful shit, and close to the worst for the rest of it. There's still a tendency to think we're "normal" or something, we are really extreme. Bill Lee is the worst, the Legislature's terrible, and all of these people are so so so dumb.

a man often referred to in the news media as the Duke of Saxony (tipsy mothra), Thursday, 25 April 2024 03:53 (sixteen hours ago) link

oh yay, on to the next school shooting, when by the time they realize what's happening, panicked armed teachers will successfully take down a window, a wall, and a desk, while people still die all around them as before.

ain't nothin but a brie thing, baby (Neanderthal), Thursday, 25 April 2024 03:56 (sixteen hours ago) link

next you know they'll be deporting people to rwanda

― mookieproof, Thursday, 25 April 2024 bookmarkflaglink

That's right

xyzzzz__, Thursday, 25 April 2024 07:52 (twelve hours ago) link

Most teachers I wouldn’t worry about them having guns aside from incompetence

See why anyone on this boards listens to you on any topic after saying shit like this is 100% a mystery to me

a (waterface), Thursday, 25 April 2024 14:42 (six hours ago) link


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