did he specify *how* he was terrible? for example maybe he meant 'i am filled with reflexive disgust at being reminded of a human waste like ted cruz and the experience of watching him hoop is objectively terrible' that is a defensible position
― class project pat (m bison), Saturday, 11 December 2021 22:41 (two years ago) link
i dont remember this debate when it happened at the time ("they came for the grayson likers and i said nothing bc he looked like ted cruz" etc)
― class project pat (m bison), Saturday, 11 December 2021 22:42 (two years ago) link
lol is jordan also the one who said zion isnt an injury risk
― lag∞n, Saturday, 11 December 2021 22:44 (two years ago) link
Yes
― Matt Armstrong, Saturday, 11 December 2021 22:44 (two years ago) link
im willing to cut j0rd some slack bc hes a volume shooter on this board, he carries a lot of the offensive load. im a sharpshooter, i pick my spots and hit them bc thats how i am irl.
― class project pat (m bison), Saturday, 11 December 2021 22:45 (two years ago) link
lmao im glad we had the opportunity to delineate who made the bad posts in question
― lag∞n, Saturday, 11 December 2021 22:49 (two years ago) link
Nah everyone was in on the Grayson thing
― Matt Armstrong, Saturday, 11 December 2021 22:50 (two years ago) link
no it was just jordan, he is the wrong one
― lag∞n, Saturday, 11 December 2021 22:51 (two years ago) link
Nah
― Matt Armstrong, Saturday, 11 December 2021 22:52 (two years ago) link
grayson allen signed a 2 year $20 million extension essentially admitting in front of the entire world that he is an NBA player of middling value. that closed the book on the discussion for me. that he now makes some wide open practice three pointers playing with the best player in the NBA who makes every scrap heap role player look better than they ever have in their careers doesn’t sway me
― J0rdan S., Saturday, 11 December 2021 23:00 (two years ago) link
and he was acquired from the grizzlies for almost literally nothing. i’m not fooled
― J0rdan S., Saturday, 11 December 2021 23:01 (two years ago) link
fwiw i have reviewed the conversation, for my own edification purely and not to prove any sort of point, and a couple small mild posts aside jord is really the only one taking issue with grayson allen the basketball player everyones elses posts are more like
I think grayson allen is a very wonderful basketball player
for me to poop on
― Clay, Wednesday, April 7, 2021 11:59 PM (eight months ago) bookmarkflaglink
lol
― lag∞n, Saturday, 11 December 2021 23:11 (two years ago) link
#bothsides
― class project pat (m bison), Saturday, 11 December 2021 23:16 (two years ago) link
the zion thing is pretty disappointing, i def thought he would work harder to keep himself in shape. that being said, his injuries have been far from catastrophic and there’s still a world where he gets healthy, gets in shape and is a dominant player
― J0rdan S., Saturday, 11 December 2021 23:22 (two years ago) link
my concern with zion is less his injuries and more that he doesn’t seem to have any defensive role in the NBA
He’s got a low motor which is bad
― Spottie, Saturday, 11 December 2021 23:28 (two years ago) link
i stand by my post of April the 7th
― Clay, Saturday, 11 December 2021 23:34 (two years ago) link
I mildly questioned Zion's 'motor' back during the Final Four and y'all laughed at me like I was crazy.
― more difficult than I look (Aimless), Saturday, 11 December 2021 23:41 (two years ago) link
why is everyone so hurt over their opinions
― J0rdan S., Saturday, 11 December 2021 23:45 (two years ago) link
ILH replicates the playground. Those butt wounds are very old.
― more difficult than I look (Aimless), Saturday, 11 December 2021 23:48 (two years ago) link
― Matt Armstrong, Saturday, 11 December 2021 23:53 (two years ago) link
sounds like something you should speak about with a therapist
― J0rdan S., Saturday, 11 December 2021 23:54 (two years ago) link
Haha
― Matt Armstrong, Sunday, 12 December 2021 00:06 (two years ago) link
leading up to the draft I kept saying that Zion had dumps like a trunk trunk trunk thighs like what what what but ilh didn't want to hear it
― Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Sunday, 12 December 2021 00:46 (two years ago) link
lonzo becoming this good at shooting is crazy. he's basically an elite 3 and D player at this point who is also an elite passer
― J0rdan S., Sunday, 12 December 2021 01:55 (two years ago) link
i always believed in lonzo
― ciderpress, Sunday, 12 December 2021 02:09 (two years ago) link
81 point first half for the cavs on the kings lol
― J0rdan S., Sunday, 12 December 2021 02:12 (two years ago) link
Don’t make me c/p the fgti post
― Heez, Sunday, 12 December 2021 02:23 (two years ago) link
i never believed in lonzo but kudos to him i tip my cap
― lag∞n, Sunday, 12 December 2021 02:37 (two years ago) link
i was a ball brothers skeptic in both cases, p cool to see the two balls grow together like this
― class project pat (m bison), Sunday, 12 December 2021 02:38 (two years ago) link
the thing about lonzo was some people at the time (not on ilh per se but out in the world) were claiming he was like a generational point guard and was headed for superstardom.
― call all destroyer, Sunday, 12 December 2021 02:50 (two years ago) link
that was silly he still has no off the bounce game but hes def turned himself into a legit player
― lag∞n, Sunday, 12 December 2021 02:51 (two years ago) link
he was a better scorer in college
― J0rdan S., Sunday, 12 December 2021 02:54 (two years ago) link
nikola vucevic looks absolutely awful. like routinely missing free throws, bunny hooks and wide open jumpers off the side of the rim
that's weird. i haven't heard any injury rumors for him but there must be something going on.
― call all destroyer, Sunday, 12 December 2021 03:15 (two years ago) link
he did have covid but from what i understand hasn’t looked right all year. shot 3-15 tonight and was a -29
― J0rdan S., Sunday, 12 December 2021 03:26 (two years ago) link
weird seems like it should be a good situation for him
― lag∞n, Sunday, 12 December 2021 03:30 (two years ago) link
I was always a lonzo believer
― k3vin k., Sunday, 12 December 2021 03:31 (two years ago) link
also the matt and jordan grudge is one of my favorite things about ILH, we all love you both
― k3vin k., Sunday, 12 December 2021 03:32 (two years ago) link
It’s my least favorite thing
― Matt Armstrong, Sunday, 12 December 2021 03:32 (two years ago) link
mb we could have a moratorium on axe grinding over old bad basketball opinions idk even tho sometimes its funny
― lag∞n, Sunday, 12 December 2021 03:43 (two years ago) link
yeah i think i have said this before but as much as i enjoy the chat here, if i remember what any of you think about anything for more than like a couple days it is purely by chance
― call all destroyer, Sunday, 12 December 2021 03:48 (two years ago) link
― J0rdan S., Sunday, 12 December 2021 03:59 (two years ago) link
i haven’t posted once about the nuggets not being contenders this year. i’m holding up my end of the bargain!
― J0rdan S., Sunday, 12 December 2021 04:02 (two years ago) link
Good win by the Sixers - they played good D but it might have also just been an off night for GS.
― ma dmac's fury road (PBKR), Sunday, 12 December 2021 04:03 (two years ago) link
Really strong defense by thybylle but dubs missed a ton of open ones. But this showed a bit of their weakness.Curry needs to break this record and move on.
― Spottie, Sunday, 12 December 2021 04:29 (two years ago) link
_It’s my least favorite thing_except you constantly revive old arguments all the time lol. much like grayson allen (who i haven’t posted about all year until today bcuz ppl already said they were tired of the argument) i’m not buying it
― Matt Armstrong, Sunday, 12 December 2021 04:31 (two years ago) link
seems like he’s in his head a bit yeah xp
― Clay, Sunday, 12 December 2021 04:32 (two years ago) link
Things got heated in Australia's NBL after this dunk on Matthew Dellavedova 😳(via @NBL)pic.twitter.com/P3MbF38pKj— SportsCenter (@SportsCenter) December 12, 2021
― J0rdan S., Sunday, 12 December 2021 08:23 (two years ago) link
it’s eerily reminiscent of lebron james ending the life of jason terry
― J0rdan S., Sunday, 12 December 2021 08:31 (two years ago) link