CJ tho
― Spottie, Friday, 10 December 2021 21:37 (two years ago) link
true
― lag∞n, Friday, 10 December 2021 21:38 (two years ago) link
cj is still the guy can they do better than cj + asset(s) i think probably not
― lag∞n, Friday, 10 December 2021 21:43 (two years ago) link
and we know the blazers would do the trade via trying to make dame happy
― lag∞n, Friday, 10 December 2021 21:45 (two years ago) link
both teams get better i dont see any reason not to do it
― Spottie, Friday, 10 December 2021 21:46 (two years ago) link
theres some incentive for the sixers to drag it out until the deadline in case they can do better but they should just do it get on with their lives
― lag∞n, Friday, 10 December 2021 21:49 (two years ago) link
well CJ having a collapsed lung currently would be one reason why not
― J0rdan S., Friday, 10 December 2021 21:52 (two years ago) link
"While far less frequent in the NBA, there are several examples. During the 2008-09 season forward Gerald Wallace fractured his fifth rib which resulted in a collapsed lung. The injury was significant and required a chest tube to drain the air from around Wallace’s injured left lung. Houston big man Terrence Jones also suffered the combination of rib and lung injuries during the 2014-15 season. Neither player missed a considerable amount of time as Wallace was sidelined for seven games and Jones was back in six."
― Spottie, Friday, 10 December 2021 21:54 (two years ago) link
hes got two lungs
― lag∞n, Friday, 10 December 2021 21:59 (two years ago) link
i was reading about the type of collapsed lung cj has and tbh i think “collapsed lung” makes it sound worse than it is.
― call all destroyer, Friday, 10 December 2021 22:01 (two years ago) link
yeah he'll be fine. prob a made up injury to protect him from injury in prep for this trade tbqh.
― Spottie, Friday, 10 December 2021 22:02 (two years ago) link
pdx just announced their interim gm, who hinted that roster changes will be aggressively sought. I'm thinking cj will be packing his bags as soon as an acceptable deal can be struck, whether for simmons or some other deal.
― more difficult than I look (Aimless), Friday, 10 December 2021 22:15 (two years ago) link
i don't know why the sixers would just up and do that trade now. does it even make them better?
― J0rdan S., Friday, 10 December 2021 22:16 (two years ago) link
yes
― Spottie, Friday, 10 December 2021 22:18 (two years ago) link
i mean theyre getting a good player who fills a desperate need for a guy who isnt playing
― lag∞n, Friday, 10 December 2021 22:18 (two years ago) link
but i also think theres a good chance theyll hold out... unless embiid is putting pressure on them to make a deal
― lag∞n, Friday, 10 December 2021 22:19 (two years ago) link
does it even make them better?
Woj hinted at a multi-team deal, so who knows who ends up where.
― more difficult than I look (Aimless), Friday, 10 December 2021 22:22 (two years ago) link
i'm not sure they have a desperate need for a shooting guard
― J0rdan S., Friday, 10 December 2021 22:23 (two years ago) link
oh i didnt realize they had shooting guards sorry
― lag∞n, Friday, 10 December 2021 22:24 (two years ago) link
if morey wasn't willing to trade simmons for mccollum 1.5 years ago i don't know why he would be now, given that he's having his worst shooting season in years and is also injured
― J0rdan S., Friday, 10 December 2021 22:24 (two years ago) link
he would do it because he has to trade simmons now
― lag∞n, Friday, 10 December 2021 22:25 (two years ago) link
1.5 months ago i mean
― J0rdan S., Friday, 10 December 2021 22:25 (two years ago) link
why does he have to trade simmons now?
that whole team is just uninterested this season his shooting will normalize in a better situation
― Spottie, Friday, 10 December 2021 22:26 (two years ago) link
― J0rdan S., Friday, December 10, 2021 5:25 PM (thirty-three seconds ago) bookmarkflaglink
not right this moment but by the deadline
― lag∞n, Friday, 10 December 2021 22:26 (two years ago) link
embiid is putting pressure on them with his great play. they need to start meshing the new teeamates sooner than later.
also is there anyone on the blazers who couldn't be traded prior to the 12/15 deadline? what is the impetus for a cj mccollum trade right now keep in mind he is out indefinitely with a collapsed lung
― J0rdan S., Friday, 10 December 2021 22:27 (two years ago) link
jordan woj says its heating up
― lag∞n, Friday, 10 December 2021 22:28 (two years ago) link
right and then you guys were like "it's for cj mccollum" i dunno he is expensive aging not having a good year injured and plays a position where the sixers already have a glut of pretty decent players
― J0rdan S., Friday, 10 December 2021 22:30 (two years ago) link
those are just the facts not sure what you want us to do
― lag∞n, Friday, 10 December 2021 22:31 (two years ago) link
but also none of that supposed glut of players does what the sixers need most which is dribble into the paint and make plays
― lag∞n, Friday, 10 December 2021 22:32 (two years ago) link
blazers are desperate to “”””change the narrative”””” rn and are probably eager to be fleeced is one thing
― Clay, Friday, 10 December 2021 22:34 (two years ago) link
not sure the blazers will be the ones getting fleeced if they dump mccollum
― J0rdan S., Friday, 10 December 2021 22:35 (two years ago) link
mb the sixers can take them for cj and a couple picks then route those picks through another team for a second guy
― lag∞n, Friday, 10 December 2021 22:35 (two years ago) link
getting two guys is never bad
with as bad as the blazers have been their picks are rising in value
― more difficult than I look (Aimless), Friday, 10 December 2021 22:38 (two years ago) link
dont think this is meant to be info just saying whats obvious, if they could do it without giving up either jay then yeah but seems extremely unlikely, although do not think simmons would be happy in boston which is bad
The Celtics are kicking the tires on Ben Simmons. Debate amongst yourselves on how smart that is, but it’s happening.— A.K (@Kungu_NBA) December 10, 2021
― lag∞n, Friday, 10 December 2021 22:43 (two years ago) link
cj was also bad in the playoffs last year so i'm not sure that helps the sixers specific problem of having a player who is bad in the playoffs
― J0rdan S., Friday, 10 December 2021 22:44 (two years ago) link
well maybe he wont be bad in the playoffs this year
― lag∞n, Friday, 10 December 2021 22:44 (two years ago) link
i do think playing with embiid would prob be pretty cool for him
― lag∞n, Friday, 10 December 2021 22:45 (two years ago) link
he'll at least try to... shoot the ball
― Spottie, Friday, 10 December 2021 22:45 (two years ago) link
first step is just shooting it
― lag∞n, Friday, 10 December 2021 22:46 (two years ago) link
a 40% chance is better than a 0% chance so the math tells me
― Spottie, Friday, 10 December 2021 22:47 (two years ago) link
i think simmons would be happy enough in boston. especially if they were winning
― micah, Friday, 10 December 2021 22:49 (two years ago) link
idk the celtics are already kind of a weird vibes team and he has weird vibes, also boston fans arent really into aloof sensitive players, pretty sure it would be weird but it is true that winning can solve all of that
― lag∞n, Friday, 10 December 2021 22:51 (two years ago) link
dont think its gonna happen regardless, maybe if the celtics give up 4 firsts and a third team is involved idk
feel like the celtics need more shooting not less
― J0rdan S., Friday, 10 December 2021 22:53 (two years ago) link
that too
― lag∞n, Friday, 10 December 2021 22:54 (two years ago) link
the problem in general w/ simmons is finding a team that is willing to part w/ shooting for a player who not only can't shoot but outright refuses to shoot. it's a tough sell! it seems like the blazers might be one of the few teams willing to take that gamble at this point but i would be stunned if this whole thing culminated in morey taking on 2 years and $68 million of cj mccollum
― J0rdan S., Friday, 10 December 2021 22:55 (two years ago) link
he might have to i dont think he can just not trade simmons
― lag∞n, Friday, 10 December 2021 22:58 (two years ago) link