HBO's Succession - Season 2 and Beyond

theyve been leaning heavily on the death imagery with him the last couple eps, if hes not dead then symbolic logic dictates... that he will be reborn

he will atone for his mistakes by ruining the GoJo deal and making it all about himself

where's the preview for the finale?

he will atone for his mistakes by ruining the GoJo deal and making it all about himself

― accordion folder full of Zoobooks (Sufjan Grafton), Monday, December 6, 2021 12:33 PM (fifty-nine seconds ago) bookmarkflaglink

amen

i understand people die while on drugs, but when that happens in drama it's usually text rather than subtext!

Are they going to gloss over the fact that GoJo was just acquired by Hooli?

One thing I love about Logan (by love I mean despise obviously) is the way he instinctively refuses to give people what they want. He offers Kendall the buyout, then toys with yanking it back as soon as Kendall wants it. Because once he knows that someone wants something, he has leverage over them. It's a pretty convincing depiction of a guy who sees the world as an endless power game and he needs to know he's winning at every turn. "Win-win" is not a real thing for him, it's soft.

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek)
Posted: December 6, 2021 at 12:36:15 PM
i understand people die while on drugs, but when that happens in drama it's usually text rather than subtext!

i mean its a cliffhanger but he was breathing water

yeah when Kendall leaned into the morality & evil stuff, you just knew he was (ahem) dead in the water

the way logan continually plays him for sport is so brutal — and the way kendall lets himseld be played for sport. ugh. this family

the beatings will continue until morale improves etc

Also thinking about just how easy it was for Shiv and Tom to casually bully Cousin Greg, because he dared to be enjoying himself and on a streak of relative good luck.

the new yorker profile reminded me of how good strong's little part is in the big short. great character.

caroline collingwood makes me homesick btw.

she has a line "how clever" (used as an insult) in season 1 which is the most authentically old money bit in the entire show.

"ken in a coma comes with everything you see here."

Before this episode and inspired by Kendall's A-Team swaddling robes in the aftermath of his asshole birthday party this occurred to me:

Kendall thinks he is Hannibal, Logan is Mr. T, Shiv is Face and Roman is Murdock.
Shiv thinks she is Mr. T and Logan is Hannibal (but she is not okay about this), Roman is Face and Kendall is Murdock.
Roman thinks he is Face, Logan is Hannibal, Shiv is Mr T and Kendall is Murdock.
Connor never watched the A-Team as it aired the same time as The McLaughlin Group.
Logan had this show cancelled in 1987 when it didn't perform up to predicted benchmarks.

i loved all the awful classist banter about Mums new fiancee. I learned from the Slate Money podcast that the line the mum says about Onions buying his own furniture was a reference to 80’s conservative MP & ubersnob Alan Clark’s diary where he said that deputy PM Michael Heseltine looked like someone who buys his own furniture lol
(informative for me but prob well known to britishers etc)

somewhat sadly, i heard my grandmother give more or less the exact speech that shiv's mom gives at that bridal shower, "some people aren't meant to be mothers, i probably should have just had dogs but he wouldn't allow it"

This episode was Shivtastic

Speaking of Connor, he doesn't get off the hook just because his absolute shitheel way of proposing wasn't quite as bad as what his siblings did.

Shiv’s outfit was hottt

oh god the proposal was so weird & sad

"some people aren't meant to be mothers, i probably should have just had dogs but he wouldn't allow it"

― When Young Sheldon began to rap (forksclovetofu), Monday, December 6, 2021 1:05 PM (sixteen minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink

and then she says "he would kick anything that loves him just to see if they would come back" as justification for not getting dogs, willfully oblivious (or non-caring) about the fact that he constantly does this to his kids (who to be fair, in this particular case, are less lovable than dogs)

Connor's fakeout though, when everyone watching and Willa thought he was gonna drop. her, and she suddenly started saying they could go underground again. That was sad.

Everyone’s Sunglasses game is always on point

Shiv's morning-after line to Tom was even worse than what she said when she was allegedly role-playing. "I mean, I don't love you, but I love you."

what happens in sexvegas stays in sexvegas

ooh yeah that line killed me. the love you one, not the sexvegas one.

shivs logic = lets have a REVENGE child

Usually with these shows about awful people, they tend to try to sand off their rough edges over the years and give them some sympathetic characteristics for viewers to care about. This show goes the Seinfeld/Sunny route and just makes them worse and worse.

Shiv and Roman just say the most awful things to each other and everyone else. Shiv constant negging of Tom is particularly horrible, due to the desperately-sad looks Macfayden creates for Tom. And of course, everything that comes out of Roman's mouth is crafted to be as mean as possible.

What makes this show different is that, for the most part, the meanness is directed at the other awful characters. But that tends to dull the impact of their meanness, since they all deserve all of the shit thrown their way.

I think I'd like to see some character in the show who isn't a POS, but so far, I don't think there are any? This show is so overwhelmingly-cynical that I guess that type of person couldn't even exist in the Roys' orbit. The closest we get are their domestic employees, but they only serve as nameless servants for the Roys to carelessly abuse.

Am I only watching this for plot

"I'm not a radical feminist, dad, but I think perhaps we should not fire her for receiving pictures of my dick?"

so crazy

tipsy otm re this episode

Culkin's physical performance after that mis-sent pic was A+ perfect, tweet above otm.

Yes! How do you physically make your own face look THAT sick without actually puking?

As soon as bad mummy said all that stuff I knew Shiv was going to suggest making a baby.
"He doesn't give a single solitary fuck" is nearly a direct line from Peep Show. I'm sure there was another one, too. Maybe 'everyone knows what you're thinking, and it's disgusting'.
BTW I'd assumed the actual wedding had happened, off-camera, before the deal stuff? I really don't know though.

God, more than ANYTHING ELSE this episode just made me want to go on a really amazing warm and delicious holiday to Italy.

btw you guys, what's the time? Oh gosh, is that really the time? Let me check my watch.

oh god I forgot about that

"He doesn't give a single solitary fuck" is nearly a direct line from Peep Show. I'm sure there was another one, too. Maybe 'everyone knows what you're thinking, and it's disgusting'.

Roman and Jez sure do share a lot of personality traits

wedding proper is to be held during finale next wk apparently

if kendall survives he should do a rap

Incredible episode but I was distracted by concern of Shiv's skin in that sun.

the whitest kids u know

same! i was hoping she had lots of sunscreen

it would be really great, although seemingly crazy as a choice for the people running the show, if Kendall drowned in the pool

i think it's been the direction everything has been pointing? though i imagine they'll just give him a bit of brain damage or he'll find jesus or something instead.

The whole story starts with Logan's brain starting to fall apart, so closing it with a brain-damaged Kendall, and then brain-damaged father and brain-damaged son finally conceding that neither now has the mental force left to break the sick bond between them, would be a good ending

Kendall (RIP) spills all the family secrets in a Makaveli-type mixtape.

ok, there's no way greg would've been invited to this wedding!

hes part of the crew, greg is down

peter munion wants to invite all the important people like logan and greg

i dont think greg was invited they just brought him

theyve got a bunch of employees with them comfrey is there, logans assistant/girlfriend

You would think Greg’s dad (Logan’s brother?) would be there.

we wouldnt want to upset logan

kendalls not allowed near the wedding but sure makes sense to have greg noncing about hitting on duchesses why not