"we'll change the things that need changing and that's all we'll change": the paSUKification of post-brexit politics 2021

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Never about actual solutions now is it


Such attractive solutions I find myself presented with:

1) shut up and vote for the party that think prosecution of historical crimes in Northern Ireland is bad
2) shut up and vote for the party that’s thrown Muslims, GRT community, Irish people, and foreigners living in Britain under the bus to appeal to people who’ll never vote for them
3) shut up and vote for the party who have the whip withdrawn from Corbyn but who welcome Alistair Campbell and Blair back to the public stage
4) shut up and vote for the party regardless of the fact they clearly don’t want or value my vote, the vote of people like me, or the vote of anyone who’s not an angry pensioner

What attractive options! Tell me, LJ, have you anything to say to that or are you just going to make more worthless digs?

mardheamac (gyac), Monday, 6 December 2021 13:52 (two years ago) link

I'd say my dig was both warranted and fairly restrained given what I copped earlier

There are alternatives to voting Labour, and I'm asking for solutions that provide more of these alternatives (and better ones)

imago, Monday, 6 December 2021 14:20 (two years ago) link

I’m not going to vote. I said so before and I’ll say it again.

mardheamac (gyac), Monday, 6 December 2021 14:22 (two years ago) link

Well yeah, as it stands that makes sense, but hopefully when the election comes around there will be an option

imago, Monday, 6 December 2021 14:28 (two years ago) link

"I'd say my dig was both warranted and fairly restrained given what I copped earlier"

Oh poor you.

xyzzzz__, Monday, 6 December 2021 14:34 (two years ago) link

Thinking of Johnny Mc’s conference speech from 2019 and contrasting it with the party today and I want to weep, honestly.

In July, at our inaugural International Social Forum, I reiterated our support for socialist internationalism. We recognise that the First Industrial Revolution meant Britain was the first major contributor to climate change – something that left a lasting legacy for the Global South.

And to begin making some reparations for our colonial past, I pledge we will provide to the citizens of the Global South free or cheap access to the green technologies developed as part of our Green Industrial Revolution.

And we will work with other countries and social movements across the globe to reform the major international bodies to enable them to coordinate the global response to climate change.

There’s an old trade union saying that “the cause of labour is the hope of the world”. Here in Britain it’s the Labour Party carrying that hope. The hope of a world where the riches of our planet are shared. The hope of a world with the chance for everyone to fulfil their full potential.


Finally the Health Secretary accepts Labour’s call for pre-departure tests, but why up to 48 hours before flight?

We also need to up booster jabs to 500,000 a day; increase vaccination rates; improve sick pay to enable workers to isolate; and improve ventilation in schools. https://t.co/y9ssr4csv0

— Wes Streeting MP (@wesstreeting) December 4, 2021



rachel reeves, who said that her party shouldn't stand for people who are "out of work", like my mother? oh thank you mr starmer!

— 𝔐𝔞𝔤𝔫𝔢𝔱𝔰 🧲 (@PerthshireMags) November 29, 2021

mardheamac (gyac), Monday, 6 December 2021 14:35 (two years ago) link

xps can both of you fuck off, I’m going to request that you are both thread banned, nobody wants to read this shit

mardheamac (gyac), Monday, 6 December 2021 14:35 (two years ago) link

Lol, what? So you are the only who can shout at this dickhead?

xyzzzz__, Monday, 6 December 2021 14:37 (two years ago) link

I hadn't seen this. Just Starmerism in a nutshell. pic.twitter.com/puMMgeoobZ

— Jamie McLaughlin (@jjsmclaughlin) December 6, 2021

xyzzzz__, Monday, 6 December 2021 15:33 (two years ago) link

BREAKING 🚨🌿: Cleaning staff at the Royal Parks in London have won a huge increase to their sick pay - following a month-long strike action.

— Trades Union Congress (@The_TUC) December 6, 2021

xyzzzz__, Tuesday, 7 December 2021 13:40 (two years ago) link

Fuckin nice

I'm Bobby Carlyle and I'm here to tell you...it actually works

hiroyoshi tins in (Sgt. Biscuits), Tuesday, 7 December 2021 16:04 (two years ago) link

6,500 depot workers at Tesco to go on strike on the run up to Christmas. More green shoots in the workers movement emerging. Solidarity to them.

— Jonathon Shafi (@Jonathon_Shafi) December 7, 2021

xyzzzz__, Tuesday, 7 December 2021 16:42 (two years ago) link

EXCLUSIVE: Video obtained by ITV News shows Downing Street staff joking about a Christmas party on 18th December last year.

No 10 has spent the past week denying any rules were broken. This new evidence calls that into question. pic.twitter.com/nKYK0tG0dQ

— Paul Brand (@PaulBrandITV) December 7, 2021

nashwan, Tuesday, 7 December 2021 19:43 (two years ago) link

Can't believe that Allegra could behave like this.

xyzzzz__, Tuesday, 7 December 2021 19:50 (two years ago) link

Lol @ the tweet above this. Just dumb as shit.

It’s one rule for them, and another for everyone else. This government is not only inhumane, incompetent and corrupt, they are also laughing at you while doing all this. They aren’t even laughing behind your back, they are doing it in your face.

— Oz Katerji (@OzKaterji) December 7, 2021

xyzzzz__, Tuesday, 7 December 2021 20:14 (two years ago) link

you know I can't think of much I've given less of a fuck about than that Christmas party in recent history

calzino, Tuesday, 7 December 2021 20:18 (two years ago) link

Hodge, Sheerman and Harman gone in the same week ... oh the humanity

calzino, Tuesday, 7 December 2021 20:30 (two years ago) link

oh my god the full clip is so so so much worse pic.twitter.com/KjL97JH3It

— Owen Jones 🌹 (@OwenJones84) December 7, 2021

mardheamac (gyac), Tuesday, 7 December 2021 21:08 (two years ago) link

i dont really care about the christmas party as much as i do about the thousands dead

plax (ico), Tuesday, 7 December 2021 21:20 (two years ago) link

i mean, its tacky

plax (ico), Tuesday, 7 December 2021 21:20 (two years ago) link

It seems to be the relatives of the dead who are angriest about it?

When I think that my Grandma died with none of us able to properly visit her and that I didn’t go to her funeral to follow the rules. That I had to cancel my Christmas plans and leave mum in tears to follow the rules. And these absolute fuckers were partying & laughing about it.

— Tom (@tomilo) December 7, 2021

mardheamac (gyac), Tuesday, 7 December 2021 21:35 (two years ago) link

People never seem that bothered or interested in what relatives of the dead have to say - it was the same with the Iraq War. I'm sure there's some psychological blocking thing going on.

When Smeato Met Moaty (Tom D.), Tuesday, 7 December 2021 21:43 (two years ago) link

all the shit they've done in the last couple of decades (both parties) this just seems so small I can't even feel anything about it, not even any kind of mildly ho-hum kind of ennui, never mind anger. Maybe I'm wrong but it's just the way I feel.

calzino, Tuesday, 7 December 2021 22:12 (two years ago) link

They’re lying to you and they’re laughing at you. pic.twitter.com/6VRaDRa3Nl

— The Labour Party (@UKLabour) December 7, 2021

Starmer Labour attempting to hold the moral high ground on honesty lol

calzino, Wednesday, 8 December 2021 00:03 (two years ago) link

"..unfortunately we've got a prime minister who is socially distanced from the truth"

oh gosh this guy really is the worst...remove the fucking plank from thine own eye first you dismal ham.

calzino, Wednesday, 8 December 2021 10:08 (two years ago) link

Yes, that was dismal.

When Smeato Met Moaty (Tom D.), Wednesday, 8 December 2021 10:10 (two years ago) link

Starmer's asking for an apology. SNP are demanding a resignation.

Urbandn hope all ye who enter here (dog latin), Wednesday, 8 December 2021 10:11 (two years ago) link

Yes it's Ian Blackford though, nobody takes any notice of that little prick.

When Smeato Met Moaty (Tom D.), Wednesday, 8 December 2021 10:12 (two years ago) link

Honestly Starmer needs to just leave this to the effective communicators like idk Ant and Dec? Pmqs going to be even more cringe today than normal

Good evening, Prime Minister! 👀🤭@antanddec #ImACeleb pic.twitter.com/cekIFiwx8N

— I'm A Celebrity... (@imacelebrity) December 7, 2021

mardheamac (gyac), Wednesday, 8 December 2021 10:17 (two years ago) link

Yes, can't stand Ant & Dec but that was better, more effective and more venomous than Starmer has ever got even close to achieving.

When Smeato Met Moaty (Tom D.), Wednesday, 8 December 2021 10:25 (two years ago) link

I feel zinged by this one tbh

One rule for them, another rule for us.#BorisTheLiar #BorisJohnsonOut pic.twitter.com/lX0LUUrLfX

— Momentum 🌹 (@PeoplesMomentum) December 3, 2021

nashwan, Wednesday, 8 December 2021 10:28 (two years ago) link

I really don't mind if the tories get fucked over this, any port in a storm.

Would be more cause to rejoice if there were the possibility of something better getting in instead ofc.

Daniel_Rf, Wednesday, 8 December 2021 10:32 (two years ago) link

yeah.. that's the problem here, I really don't care a jot for the tories b team.

calzino, Wednesday, 8 December 2021 10:34 (two years ago) link

Otm all, the only consolation is blue-on-blue

mardheamac (gyac), Wednesday, 8 December 2021 10:37 (two years ago) link

Press conference to announce Plan B restrictions at 1730 today, apparently

stet, Wednesday, 8 December 2021 11:01 (two years ago) link

lmao

mardheamac (gyac), Wednesday, 8 December 2021 11:11 (two years ago) link

pic.twitter.com/xv9336xlMU

— jonny abhors not the virgin’s womb (@sensiblehuman96) December 8, 2021

you know it’s bad when cricket cunts are zinging you

mardheamac (gyac), Wednesday, 8 December 2021 11:11 (two years ago) link

It doesn’t seem wildly improbable that this has all been leaked in response to rumours that the government was mulling over another set of curbs to socialising over Christmas. Plan C looks almost certainly off the table for the foreseeable future.

Scampo di tutti i Scampi (ShariVari), Wednesday, 8 December 2021 11:35 (two years ago) link

Far from improbable.

When Smeato Met Moaty (Tom D.), Wednesday, 8 December 2021 11:44 (two years ago) link

the usual suspects were very quick out of the gate with the "well any restrictions now will just have to be advice in the wake of these staggering one-rule-for-us relevations"

stet, Wednesday, 8 December 2021 11:53 (two years ago) link

Only improbable bit of that is that the govt would be looking into further restrictions in the first place imo

Daniel_Rf, Wednesday, 8 December 2021 11:55 (two years ago) link

Downing Street advisors pic.twitter.com/qqphzetu24

— Nooruddean (@BeardedGenius) December 8, 2021

nashwan, Wednesday, 8 December 2021 12:05 (two years ago) link

Jesus, what's the point in PMQs if the second any sort of tricky question is asked, they're able to deflect it with "you're playing politics"?

Urbandn hope all ye who enter here (dog latin), Wednesday, 8 December 2021 12:19 (two years ago) link

(you can tell I don't watch it very often, eh?)

Urbandn hope all ye who enter here (dog latin), Wednesday, 8 December 2021 12:20 (two years ago) link

Talking of cunts

Will the CABSEC also be asked to investigate the *flat* party on Fri 13 Nov, the other flat parties, & the flat's 'bubble' policy...?

— Dominic Cummings (@Dominic2306) December 8, 2021

groovypanda, Wednesday, 8 December 2021 12:36 (two years ago) link

Sunak's eyes and general demeanour during PMQs suggested, err, rather less than unequivocal support for Johnson.

mike t-diva, Wednesday, 8 December 2021 12:56 (two years ago) link

Keir invokes the Queen. Nuclear. #pmqs

— Mikey Smith (@mikeysmith) December 8, 2021

of course the best thing about PMQs is reading the imbecilic commentary on it by the lobby hacks who are too stupid to be even considered serious court jesters, but not watching it very often is a very good choice imo.

calzino, Wednesday, 8 December 2021 13:38 (two years ago) link

First name terms is it now?

When Smeato Met Moaty (Tom D.), Wednesday, 8 December 2021 13:39 (two years ago) link

Stratton's resigned as we all knew she would.

nashwan, Wednesday, 8 December 2021 15:44 (two years ago) link


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