A lot of that is down to being a 44 year old man, of course. But if I showed my 15 year old son the list he’d be mystified too, if less mystified.
― Legalize Suburban Benches (Raymond Cummings), Saturday, 4 December 2021 20:27 (two years ago) link
Until today I didn’t know that Tomorrow X Together existed!
None of this is a comment on the quality of these acts, by the way. I have no idea. Just saying that this landscape is vast in a way that is mind-boggling.
― Legalize Suburban Benches (Raymond Cummings), Saturday, 4 December 2021 20:29 (two years ago) link
I think it all comes down to "music increasingly markets itself to more and more niche communities" and these big tent pubs all have to either A) Establish their own identity (I think P4k, Revolver, maybe Mojo are doing a good job of that, regardless of what you think of their music tastes) or trying to be everything to everyone, which, well, good fucking luck
― licorice in the front, pizza in the rear (Whiney G. Weingarten), Saturday, 4 December 2021 20:32 (two years ago) link
Agreed.
― Legalize Suburban Benches (Raymond Cummings), Saturday, 4 December 2021 20:34 (two years ago) link
Earlier this year, Rolling Stone literally said BTS' 'Dynamite' is better than "Heartbreak Hotel." I don't think they're exactly a marker of our "vast musical landscape" and more a marker of 40somethings tripping over their dicks to try and stay relevant
― licorice in the front, pizza in the rear (Whiney G. Weingarten), Saturday, 4 December 2021 20:37 (two years ago) link
Anyway, the rap choices on all these lists makes me feel 10,000 years old, peace out
― licorice in the front, pizza in the rear (Whiney G. Weingarten), Saturday, 4 December 2021 20:52 (two years ago) link
I continue to maintain that the album is an obsolete formatWhy? It still seems central to me.
― katebishopfan616 (morrisp), Saturday, 4 December 2021 21:04 (two years ago) link
yeah that's a headscratcher to me, too
― we need outrage! we need dicks!! (the table is the table), Saturday, 4 December 2021 21:34 (two years ago) link
Not like all these album lists are being topped by aging artists in obscure microgenres (although mine surely will be).
― treat the gelignite tenderly for me (Sund4r), Saturday, 4 December 2021 22:07 (two years ago) link
― licorice in the front, pizza in the rear (Whiney G. Weingarten)
Lol they did what!?
― ✖✖✖ (Moka), Saturday, 4 December 2021 22:09 (two years ago) link
their top 500 songs of all time list had some really goofy stuff
― ufo, Saturday, 4 December 2021 22:12 (two years ago) link
Or are you referencing the fact that “dynamite” scored one place higher than “heartbreak hotel” on their 500 song list?
― ✖✖✖ (Moka), Saturday, 4 December 2021 22:13 (two years ago) link
yeah
― licorice in the front, pizza in the rear (Whiney G. Weingarten), Saturday, 4 December 2021 22:20 (two years ago) link
Maybe there are earlier examples, I don't know, but for me better-than insanity started with Spin's two '88 lists, both singles and albums. I liked some of their left-field picks a lot at the time, especially their #1 song, but there was also a lot of Depeche Mode's Black Celebration better than The Velvet Underground & Nico, and Echo & the Bunnymen's "The Killing Moon" better than "Heat Wave," "I Can't Explain," and "Anarchy in the U.K."
― clemenza, Saturday, 4 December 2021 22:36 (two years ago) link
killing moon is absolutely better than anarchy in the uk!
― grove street (party) direction (voodoo chili), Saturday, 4 December 2021 22:50 (two years ago) link
yeah agreed
― katebishopfan616 (morrisp), Saturday, 4 December 2021 22:55 (two years ago) link
Even BTS “dynamite” is better than Anarchy in the UK
― ✖✖✖ (Moka), Saturday, 4 December 2021 22:59 (two years ago) link
Someone's future dream is a shopping spree.
― treat the gelignite tenderly for me (Sund4r), Saturday, 4 December 2021 23:09 (two years ago) link
My apologies to the Sex Pistols for making this happen.
― clemenza, Saturday, 4 December 2021 23:42 (two years ago) link
I was responding to the Bunnymen fwiw. I know I have consciously sought out and listened to "Dynamite" and some other BTS songs but I have zero memory of what it sounds like.
― treat the gelignite tenderly for me (Sund4r), Sunday, 5 December 2021 00:10 (two years ago) link
i wish bts would make another gqom track lol
― ufo, Sunday, 5 December 2021 00:12 (two years ago) link
Dynamite is the one that sounds like Jonas Brothers.
― ✖✖✖ (Moka), Sunday, 5 December 2021 00:17 (two years ago) link
"butter" from this year was much better than "dynamite", not really exciting but very solid for what it is
― ufo, Sunday, 5 December 2021 00:24 (two years ago) link
The title “Butter” grosses me out.
― katebishopfan616 (morrisp), Sunday, 5 December 2021 01:02 (two years ago) link
Not no Parkay, not no margarine
― Chappies banging dustbin lids together (President Keyes), Sunday, 5 December 2021 02:16 (two years ago) link
STRICTLY BUTTER, BABY
― Legalize Suburban Benches (Raymond Cummings), Sunday, 5 December 2021 02:40 (two years ago) link
wau wau collectif album is really nice
modern rs trying to be poptimist or whatever they're doing feels even weirder than when their top 10 was mostly just classic rock acts way past their prime
to elaborate on this, it's bc their poptimist taste is weird and bland? like if they were going all in on say billie eilish's album this year that would be a much better poptimist pick than adele & olivia rodrigo (whose album was fine just not like, aoty material lol) or previously that harry styles album
― ufo, Sunday, 5 December 2021 04:43 (two years ago) link
i love reading the music analyses on here and discovering music myself, but i find it funny how people forget music is such a subjective thing. having said that, i always assume by "best album/song", the person is saying this is their "favourite" instead of making a statement that something is intrinsically superior than something else
having said that, i wasn't really feeling any of the stuff on best-of lists this year either. i think the weather station's album was fine. but i do love "parking lot" and i really like tamara lindeman (guinevere jones!)
― Punster McPunisher, Sunday, 5 December 2021 04:51 (two years ago) link
― ufo, Sunday, 5 December 2021 00:12 (seven hours ago) link
what is the bts gqom song????
― grove street (party) direction (voodoo chili), Sunday, 5 December 2021 07:40 (two years ago) link
"idol"
― ufo, Sunday, 5 December 2021 07:48 (two years ago) link
TIME 10 BEST SONGS
https://time.com/6125601/best-songs-2021/
― ✖✖✖ (Moka), Sunday, 5 December 2021 17:21 (two years ago) link
Farruko - "Pepas"Wizkid - "Essence"Taylor Swift - "All Too Well (10 Minute Version) (Taylor's Version) (From The Vault)"Lucy Dacus - "VBS"YOASOBI - "怪物"City Girls - "Twerkulator"Olivia Rodrigo - "good 4 u"El Alfa, Chael Produciendo, CJ - "La Mamá de la Mamá"Morgan Wade - "Wilder Days"Doja Cat - "Woman"
That's one hideous mash-up. Reminds me of those bands doing ridiculous pop pastiche for people to make fun of, except BTS sound serious.
― Nabozo, Sunday, 5 December 2021 17:26 (two years ago) link
Pretty diverse listWas the song a near carbon copy of Paramore’s “Misery Business”? Sure.goddammit, stop with this; It’s been very effectively debunked (retroactive credit not withstanding)
― katebishopfan616 (morrisp), Sunday, 5 December 2021 17:26 (two years ago) link
The Floating Points / Pharoah Sanders / LSO album is very deserving of all the mentions it’s getting, I don’t care if there’s 500 other “jazz” albums that are better than this one in 2021 or complaints that this is the token jazz album everybody is picking. Both artists are legends on their own and it’s beautiful piece they have created together in here.
― ✖✖✖ (Moka), Sunday, 5 December 2021 22:54 (two years ago) link
eh
― licorice in the front, pizza in the rear (Whiney G. Weingarten), Sunday, 5 December 2021 23:40 (two years ago) link
that is maybe my favorite album this year
― Dan S, Sunday, 5 December 2021 23:49 (two years ago) link
the Dry Cleaning album is nice
have also been enjoying still slipping vol. 1
― Dan S, Sunday, 5 December 2021 23:50 (two years ago) link
This is my Top 20 as it stands right now, still subject to change as I hear more stuff
1. Natural Information Society With Evan Parker - Descension (Out Of Our Constrictions)2. John Zorn - Bagatelles Vol. 1-43. Low - Hey What4. Godspeed You! Black Emperor – At State's End5. Mdou Moctar – Afrique Victime6. Keith Rowe - Absence7. Vanessa Rossetto - The Tower (The City) (w/ Lionel Marchetti) / Legends of the American Theater cassette / A Stem of Woodapple with Fruits / What Is Your Middle Class American Problem? 7"8. Charmaine Lee - KNVF9. Rhododendron – Protozoan Battle Hymns10. Clara Ionnotta - Moult11. Upper Wilds - Venus12. The Bug - Fire13. Les Filles de Illighadad - At Pioneer Works14. Arooj Aftab - Vulture Prince15. Koreless - Agor16. Vijay Iyer/Linda May Han Oh/Tyshawn Sorey – Uneasy17. Blanck Mass – In Ferneaux18. Ahmed – Nights on Saturn (Communication)19. Chris Corsano & Bill Orcutt– Made Out of Sound20. Ripatti - Fun Is Not a Straight Line
― licorice in the front, pizza in the rear (Whiney G. Weingarten), Sunday, 5 December 2021 23:53 (two years ago) link
want to hear a lot of those, esp. Keith Rowe and Vanessa Rossetto
― Dan S, Sunday, 5 December 2021 23:58 (two years ago) link
It absolutely rips no longer having to engage with popular music
― licorice in the front, pizza in the rear (Whiney G. Weingarten), Monday, 6 December 2021 00:04 (two years ago) link
Uneasy v good. I liked Moult when I listened to it but need to give it some dedicated quiet time. A lot of the the rest are artists that I like but didn't know those albums so I look forward to listening to more.
― treat the gelignite tenderly for me (Sund4r), Monday, 6 December 2021 00:09 (two years ago) link
I’ve got a little overlap with Whitney here
― Legalize Suburban Benches (Raymond Cummings), Monday, 6 December 2021 00:24 (two years ago) link
Ha, WHINEY - sorry
https://i.imgur.com/mgMUUSt_d.webp?maxwidth=640&shape=thumb&fidelity=medium
― katebishopfan616 (morrisp), Monday, 6 December 2021 01:02 (two years ago) link
Joy Orbison's "still slipping vol. 1" is really lovely and is comforting, and its title and its final track "born slipping" are definitely references to Underworld's born slippy
― Dan S, Monday, 6 December 2021 01:06 (two years ago) link
Whiney and I have some big crossover
― we need outrage! we need dicks!! (the table is the table), Monday, 6 December 2021 01:56 (two years ago) link
If we go by the same time as last year, these are the lists that will be posted in the following days:
Tomorrow?P4kPopmattersWire
Next week:TexturaViceBandcampWashingtonpost
The next next week:LatimesVinylfactoryPaste song listAquarium drunkardSaid the gramophoneRavensingsthebluesKexp Reverend’s listRA
― ✖✖✖ (Moka), Monday, 6 December 2021 03:29 (two years ago) link
Oh actually Textura’s is published already:
https://www.textura.org/archives/articles/2021picks.htm
― ✖✖✖ (Moka), Monday, 6 December 2021 04:56 (two years ago) link