Star Trek: Classic or Dud?

Marriott hotel conference center

Irlol/otm

there's a rick berman quote about how hot chicks who can actually act are already in movies -- and by suggestion that he'd had to settle for those who can't

but even apart from being an incredible asshole, he's *wrong*

I constantly am baffled by people who remark (negatively) on TNG's anesthetics, but then I grew up watching it so I just take it as given.

also you are a youngun, no?

It SHOULD look like a conference center imo, that is where ppl have meetings to peacefully sort out the problems of the universe via bureaucratic solutions.

but some of the early shots of the bridge look like the empty space at the front of a home-cinema, like bits of the set that the camera shouldn't be pointed at.

also one of the first episodes, maybe even the first, is Q-based and he's a dick.

https://i.stack.imgur.com/QAAsU.jpg

i just expected a better use of space in the future, somehow

I just finished TOS and then TNG, what should I move to now?

Deep Space Nine is great.

Aw, I love the TNG normcore aesthetic and I think some of the remastered episodes look pretty ravishing

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xpost DS9 is so great! As good as people've said. I'm doing a very slow binge, having never watched it the first time round. The first season is actually pretty solid (perhaps even slightly better than the second, which I'm watching right now).

I also love the anaesthetics of TNG— never really bothered me.

I should watch DS9, I've hardly seen any of it....maybe in the new year, once The Expanse is over.

DS9 rules. My favorite Star Trek.

also you are a youngun, no?

lol I wish! I mean, I was in junior high and high school when TNG was airing, so when I said growing up with it, I wasn't exaggerating.

Also yes DS9 is IMO the best Trek -- EASILY the most watchable in the 2020s.

must be your youthful vibes then lol <3

(xps) That scene where Riker fights his dad at that made-up future martial art is so gloriously ridiculous.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SNc5H1aPK04

omg that was amazing

must be your youthful vibes then lol <3

looool that's a nice way to say I'm immature, now I am ded.

another Greenhaven episode of voyager. fml.

Re: Star Trek aesthetics, I found out only a few years ago that the actual color of Captain Kirk's pullover in TOS was not gold, but green. It only photographed gold due to the film stock and the lighting gels they used in production. Can confirm this is true after seeing one of the original pullovers in person in an exhibit at The Hollywood Museum.

Btw I'm with Vegemite on the aesthetics point. In fact for me, the colors and '60s era design were such a crucial part of the appeal of TOS that I never even bothered with TNG after taking one look at it, though I'm sure it's good drama and all that, and I get that if you grew up with it it looks fine. I just need a little Barbarella in my space fantasy.

I tend to agree, but you probably already knew that.

I like psych pop sci-fi too, but there's many sources for that. The ultra earnest nerdy bureaucrat flavour of TNG-to-Voyager tho, that's really hard to find anywhere else.

YOU GUYS mr veg informed me there is/was a Menagerie ornament & then sent me the full list of hallmark Star Trek ornaments

if i had disposable income and a big enough house i would have a dedicated second christmas tree of all star trek ornaments

https://hallmarkstartrekornaments.com/master-ornament-list/

would deck all of this halls w/ these masterpieces, all year, every year

There’s a holodeck/deck the halls joke here somewhere.

lol

voyager reruns

yesterday: kes returns, made-up to look old

today: barclay (ffs) is talking to the real doctor (zimmerman), who looks like the emh, made-up to look old

barclay is up there with Q in characters that can do one.

(i have that borg cube decoration from 2000 but i think it's meant to plug into the old-style tree lights and the voltages might be wrong here so i've never used it (and can't remember where it is))

I love that Kes returns episode, particularly given how she was written off the show and it essentially ruined the actress' life.

although the solution was to get young kes to point out to old kes that she chose that route

gaslighted by your own character

Lower Decks is cool.

Quite enjoyed Prodigy though it's a lot more youth oriented

the villian(?) in today's star trek voyager repeat was the villain in yesterday's svu repeat (Jeff Kober, you'll recognise him, was the evil wizzard in Buffy)

yesterday's baby-centric episode was poor

I probably need to walk back my praise for Prodigy, because the main guy is the embodiment of male mediocrity, all while sporting a rattail.

Still working my way through TNG
We just watched S4E7 “Reunion”
Man I love what they’ve done with Worf starting w the dismissal, gives him so much more depth, each new episode of that storyline SO good . And K’Ehleyr his Klingon mate is (rats, i guess “was” ;_;) my favorite minor character so far, she was fantastic.

Also, unrelated: in general, I am taking an overall stand against storylines involving holodeck detective cosplay and/or holodeck jazz clubs. The.WORST.

Aw, I love those. I don't think a 26 episode version of Discovery could save it but imagine if the Expanse could have an episode where the crew sits around and plays Catan for a night.

true!

it’s not the concept so much as just my inner cringe at a) terrible period costumes b) worse affectations and c) Riker playing his “‘bone”

reunion is a weird one. starts off as a murder mystery for picard but ends up in the grimdark era of comics, complete with girlfriend fridging.

all of the games they play on discovery seem to be based on english language wordplay.

Veg, the actress who plays K'Ehleyr also plays a Vulcan medical officer in I think season 2. Nowhere near as memorable as K (who was such a great character), but FYI.

yeah i vaguely recognized her voice & discovered that when i looked her up on imdb!

last 7 episodes of voyager and jeri ryan is out of borg makeup again in an attempt to not be typecast when the show finishes. hasn't started singing or dancing yet, but i guess that's coming.

i like seeing the crew in mufti though

Just saw this on Twitter, luckily they are close to their goal.

"Help Legendary Nichelle Nichols Recover from Tragic Elder Abuse Perpetrated by Gilbert Bell. Please join the Nichols Family and Me in supporting Nichelle.
-Marian Nichols Smothers, Sister of Nichelle Nichols"

https://www.gofundme.com/f/shields-up-nichelle-nichols?utm_campaign=m_pd+share-sheet&utm_medium=social&utm_source=twitter

Ha any time one of those holodeck episodes VG refers to comes up I instantly skip to the next one

<3

we just watched S4E11 Data’s Day wherein we learn that DATA HAS A CAT (!)

i think the next episode is our first (?) introduction to the Cardassians :D

by we i mean I learned
mr veg already knew obv

O Spot, the complex levels of behavior you display
Connote a fairly well-developed cognitive array.
And though you are not sentient, Spot, and do not comprehend,
I nonetheless consider you a true and valued friend.

<3

Cardassian ep was v good, enjoyed it a lot

Marc Alaimo! i want to give him a shoutout, i think in terms of actors who do their thing under insane layers of effects makeup, he’s got to be up there with the greats for DS9. As this Cardassian in TNG, this handlebar mustached (lmao so weird) Gul Macet, you cannot take your eyes off him. His physicality, the way he uses his voice & that great duplicitous stare - fuckin badass. Love him.