"we'll change the things that need changing and that's all we'll change": the paSUKification of post-brexit politics 2021

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That's amusing about "Swindon". Who has gone to oblivion.

the pinefox, Wednesday, 1 December 2021 10:05 (two years ago) link

Surprised Streeting wasn't given Shadow Minister for McDonald's, but I guess lobbying for them is sort of his main hobby anyway so no need?

hiroyoshi tins in (Sgt. Biscuits), Wednesday, 1 December 2021 10:46 (two years ago) link

Good luck to these good ppl

Senior managers in our sector are generally total incompetents and become bullies to compensate. They make outrageous salaries and contribute literally nothing that makes the lives of students or university staff better. https://t.co/ewqIBQaOml

— Jack Saundrs ❤🖤 (@jack_saundrs) December 1, 2021

xyzzzz__, Wednesday, 1 December 2021 10:48 (two years ago) link

I laughed the other day when some muppet described McShitter as "soft-left" in a reshuffle report, lol what a joke.

calzino, Wednesday, 1 December 2021 10:50 (two years ago) link

lol BYE

Yes!! Labour’s main union backer says it will cut political funding https://t.co/iLCFhJOM3J

— Chardine Taylor Stone (@ChardineTaylor) December 2, 2021



In a move that could blow a hole in Keir Starmer’s general election war chest, Graham said that while Unite would still pay £1m in affiliation fees to Labour, “there’s a lot of other money that we use from our political fund where, actually, I’m not sure we’re getting the best value for it”.

Graham, speaking to the Guardian to mark her first 100 days as leader of Britain’s biggest private sector union, said: “The fact that I am being quite robust is because Labour needs to talk about workers, needs to defend workers and needs to defend communities.”

She described this week’s Labour reshuffle, regarded by many at Westminster as a shift to the right, as “white noise” and lamented the lack of a shadow secretary of state for employment rights and protections, saying it was “not a good signal” for the party to send.


Better hope Reeves and Streeting attract those donors!

mardheamac (gyac), Thursday, 2 December 2021 20:29 (two years ago) link

Sharon Graham always seems to make very good decisions, respect!

calzino, Thursday, 2 December 2021 20:31 (two years ago) link

They might not get the donors till they ditch the dud. Oh christ they are going to try and make Cooper happen again.

calzino, Thursday, 2 December 2021 20:42 (two years ago) link

I'd forgotten that when SG had just won the Unite gen sec election, then the Starmer office were trying to spin some copium that it was a good result for him. Lol not looking so good for him now. I can't remember the name of the other left-wing candidate or whatever split the vote with his + SG's supporters but it seems the correct one won it.

calzino, Friday, 3 December 2021 17:25 (two years ago) link

Incredible vibe. Calz, you should get in touch with the party, they could be paying you a consultancy fee for this insight!

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FFrfhWCXEAA5s3c?format=jpg&name=large

mardheamac (gyac), Friday, 3 December 2021 18:04 (two years ago) link

christ such unbelievably pathetic self-pity/self-victimisation from the guy that has trashed everything in the room and then told hundreds of thousands of people to fuck off!

calzino, Friday, 3 December 2021 18:35 (two years ago) link

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FFtDEDRXwAcLEG7?format=png&name=small

lol, two years ago was a hell of a trip

calzino, Friday, 3 December 2021 18:57 (two years ago) link

This is a literal death sentence for people with addiction, uncontrolled withdrawal kills.

It will just mean empowering the drug trade in prison, and deepening addictions. https://t.co/2NjmYJJwav

— Rory MacLean (@rory_maclean) December 3, 2021

xyzzzz__, Friday, 3 December 2021 20:19 (two years ago) link

Really these ppl are pathetic

This is about three people standing outside a mansion with cardboard signs. https://t.co/sB4ZzHdU15 pic.twitter.com/OES0o1R85o

— Euan Yours (@EuanYours) December 2, 2021

xyzzzz__, Friday, 3 December 2021 20:27 (two years ago) link

that brief paragraph is the worst N American commentariat bullshit seen or heard since erm.. that moment the other day when I heard Steven Pinker say on R4 "even left-wing politicians like Barack Obama and Hilary Clinton used to be against gay marriage".

calzino, Friday, 3 December 2021 20:42 (two years ago) link

“I said to Keir Starmer when I met him in this office, I find it disappointing – and I’m being diplomatic – I find it disappointing that Labour are not coming out far more robustly in terms of what’s happening to workers and communities.”

Graham has said she will be seeking to cut donations from Unite to Labour. Not the affiliation fee, but the “awful lot of money on top of the affiliation fee” that the union has been giving to the party from its political fund – an amount she says is “staggering, sometimes, in its nature”. Where will that money go instead? Graham has a clear answer: driving campaigns that her members believe in.

tfw all you can enjoy about the current shitshow is the first bit of REAL opposition (as in hitting them where it really hurts) to the craven bunch of bigoted crooks that are supposed to be the opposition

calzino, Saturday, 4 December 2021 12:36 (two years ago) link

GPs will be allowed to defer some of their services, not sure how anybody will be able to tell cos nobody I know has had sight of a GP in months

let's make lunch and listen to five finger death punch (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 4 December 2021 17:22 (two years ago) link

seeing GPs is like white dogshit/chukka boots nostalgia now, although I did manage to talk to a neurologist's secretary the other day, yay NHS!

calzino, Saturday, 4 December 2021 17:37 (two years ago) link

Remember Owen Smith? He is now government relations director for pharmaceutical company Bristol Myers Squibb who are currently the subject of a $1 billion lawsuit from Guatemala for "roles in a 1940s U.S. government experiment that infected hundreds of Guatemalans with syphilis"

— Glenn Jenkins (@glenninluton) December 3, 2021

xyzzzz__, Saturday, 4 December 2021 20:44 (two years ago) link

Mr Sheerman added he was proud of the work he had done over the past 42 years but was looking forward to spending more time with his family.

Sheerwaste has realised i/ he was probably on course to lose his seat at the next election and only held on in 2019 because the Tories ran The Mekon against him. ii/ he's made so much dosh lobbying for big construction since 1979 that he just doesn't need the hassle of the MP side-gig anymore.

calzino, Sunday, 5 December 2021 11:49 (two years ago) link

a Good Thread

A little thread getting down some ideas about the "removing citizenship without due process" stuff, and what's (in my view) missing:

— McDuff (@Mc_Heckin_Duff) December 5, 2021

let's make lunch and listen to five finger death punch (Noodle Vague), Sunday, 5 December 2021 13:12 (two years ago) link

After 40 years as Huddersfield’s Member of Parliament, I have taken the decision that I will not be standing at the next general election.

Serving Huddersfield has been the honour of my life.

Thank you to my constituents for the kindness, support and warmth you have shown me. pic.twitter.com/BsITvzevAq

— Barry Sheerman MP (@BarrySheerman) December 4, 2021

xyzzzz__, Sunday, 5 December 2021 15:04 (two years ago) link

Full video of this announcement.

I guess maybe a few are seeing the writing on the wall. Hodge also gone etc. Though they've been around the circus for long enough.

xyzzzz__, Sunday, 5 December 2021 15:06 (two years ago) link

ffs I can remember the old cunt visiting my school in Brackenhall when I was in short pants!

calzino, Sunday, 5 December 2021 15:22 (two years ago) link

he didn't tell us about how much grifting you can do as a safe seat wasteman, just a load of bollox about how you "have to put in some serious hours being an MP, it's a tough job"!

calzino, Sunday, 5 December 2021 15:24 (two years ago) link

NV - that's a really nice thread, thanks.

xyzzzz__, Sunday, 5 December 2021 15:42 (two years ago) link

The drugs announcement is more culture war stuff, isn't it. Or class war, to put it more accurately.

at least when Nixon was hiring Elvis to spearhead the first war on drugs they were both high as kites on *prescription* drugs, but a load of patently obvious cokeheads competing to get tough on illegal drug-users is something else

— Owen Hatherley (@owenhatherley) December 6, 2021

glumdalclitch, Monday, 6 December 2021 10:19 (two years ago) link

what a shit time to be young

calzino, Monday, 6 December 2021 10:22 (two years ago) link

Kieth is going to back this to the hilt, the piece of shit.

calzino, Monday, 6 December 2021 10:24 (two years ago) link

Absolutely agree with Monbiot's much-ballyhooed call for left unity, except with the caveat that Starmer and his cabinet can hardly be described as part of the left, and no left unity can truly contain them. The need for a breakaway party with a better name continues to build

imago, Monday, 6 December 2021 11:05 (two years ago) link

Monbiot is, in the fine words of Eamon Dunphy:

pic.twitter.com/fYPaIdAloV

— No Context Eamon Dunphy (@NoContextDunphy) November 2, 2019

mardheamac (gyac), Monday, 6 December 2021 11:17 (two years ago) link

Monbiot is a fucking dickhead melt who publicly backed the UKIP-lite candidate in 2020 rather than the one with the radical GND. So as a so called environmentalist he's a flop sellout and deserves to get dunked for it.

calzino, Monday, 6 December 2021 11:20 (two years ago) link

pic.twitter.com/0NAXbnXmFG

— No Context Eamon Dunphy (@NoContextDunphy) January 29, 2020



Dunphy every time he reads posts from LJ itt

mardheamac (gyac), Monday, 6 December 2021 11:23 (two years ago) link

lol!

calzino, Monday, 6 December 2021 11:23 (two years ago) link

Ouch.

When Smeato Met Moaty (Tom D.), Monday, 6 December 2021 11:42 (two years ago) link

Labour is also a fine name for a party. LJ's every word is dreck.

xyzzzz__, Monday, 6 December 2021 11:46 (two years ago) link

We literally had an example of a new party with tons of money and favourable press coverage crashing and burning pretty spectacularly a couple of years back. The barriers to entry for a new party are incredibly high and people have formed ideas of and have long associations with the established parties. Tl;dr do we need to keep having this incredibly basic and stupid discussion time and time again?

mardheamac (gyac), Monday, 6 December 2021 12:23 (two years ago) link

not only is it always the left that is expected to compromise, but when it does compromise and is then royally shafted and subjected to a frankly psychotic years-long campaign of delegitimisation for its trouble ... it's then expected to get over it and compromise again. tiring

— Simply Having A Wonderful Stefmowords (@stefmowords) December 6, 2021



can you really not see, at this point in time, after everything that's happened since 2015, why so many people have just had enough, and simply do not have any remaining will for 'coalition building'

— Simply Having A Wonderful Stefmowords (@stefmowords) December 6, 2021



Like, we had the Greens running a campaign in Stroud that split the left vote and left the seat with a Tory MP. We had Sam Gyimah being talked up as the best chance of winning in Kensington and letting a Tory back into that seat despite people begging and pleading- and afaik nothing ever came of him trying to say Emma Dent Coad was culpable for Grenfell?

Sam Gyimah lied about Emma Dent Coad’s involvement with Grenfell planning. She received death threats. He lied to Kensington residents that Labour had no chance of winning. He gave no shits about the poorest in the borough. He is an evil careerist piece of shit.

— Jason Okundaye (@jasebyjason) December 13, 2019



Emma Dent Coad losing by 150 votes to the Tories after Sam Gyimah (9k votes, Tory until three months ago) slandered her is criminal, the Lib Dems should answer for it.

— The Poisonous Euros Atmosphere Fan (@DawnHFoster) December 13, 2019



The Greens in Stroud not apologising for their shit and instead blaring on about PR immediately after the vote came in - I don’t forget or forgive for any of that shit. Fuck them. Fuck them all.

mardheamac (gyac), Monday, 6 December 2021 12:42 (two years ago) link

I love it how these guys who spent 5 years on a concerted wrecking campaign now favour unity when there is a right-wing reactionary leading the opposition, you can't take anything they say seriously.

calzino, Monday, 6 December 2021 12:48 (two years ago) link

The government’s borders bill has a clause that has the power to strip, among others, every single British Jew of their citizenship without notice. But you’ll still get every Lib Dem and Green cunt whining about jErEmY cOrByN

mardheamac (gyac), Monday, 6 December 2021 12:51 (two years ago) link

Left-wingers are either staying in Lab and trying to hang on locally or have completely withdrawn from the party (which may become visible in the council elections next year) and two years after 2019 are in a state of grief or doing bits and pieces with the likes of Acorn.

I can see almost no one calling for any kind of breakaway at this point. But that's LJ being a total weirdo.

xyzzzz__, Monday, 6 December 2021 13:05 (two years ago) link

Neither of those options sounds good, or does the latter mean something other than sitting out the next GE?

nashwan, Monday, 6 December 2021 13:23 (two years ago) link

Don't think xyzz's point was that these options were "good" but rather that this is where left demographics are at right now.

Daniel_Rf, Monday, 6 December 2021 13:27 (two years ago) link

Its not about a bunch of options that sound good or bad. This is where many people are at xp

xyzzzz__, Monday, 6 December 2021 13:27 (two years ago) link

Never about actual solutions now is it

imago, Monday, 6 December 2021 13:34 (two years ago) link

I thought your post was about showing us how left-wing you are.

xyzzzz__, Monday, 6 December 2021 13:36 (two years ago) link

Not even a month ago:

This one doesn't seem so bad (and I'm not saying it will happen but it is one among many):

- no overall majority next election
- Labour form coalition with SNP, allow for a second referendum
- Scotland votes Leave
- Starmer resigns in shame
- someone like Nadia Whittome wins the leadership

Almost wish I hadn't quit Labour now, lol

― imago, Tuesday, 16 November 2021 bookmarkflaglink

xyzzzz__, Monday, 6 December 2021 13:41 (two years ago) link

Sometimes multiple avenues can be explored

imago, Monday, 6 December 2021 13:45 (two years ago) link

What, you want to be both in Labour and a new party? Sounds like you've got time to dick about while Tories deport and evict.

xyzzzz__, Monday, 6 December 2021 13:47 (two years ago) link

Never about actual solutions now is it


Such attractive solutions I find myself presented with:

1) shut up and vote for the party that think prosecution of historical crimes in Northern Ireland is bad
2) shut up and vote for the party that’s thrown Muslims, GRT community, Irish people, and foreigners living in Britain under the bus to appeal to people who’ll never vote for them
3) shut up and vote for the party who have the whip withdrawn from Corbyn but who welcome Alistair Campbell and Blair back to the public stage
4) shut up and vote for the party regardless of the fact they clearly don’t want or value my vote, the vote of people like me, or the vote of anyone who’s not an angry pensioner

What attractive options! Tell me, LJ, have you anything to say to that or are you just going to make more worthless digs?

mardheamac (gyac), Monday, 6 December 2021 13:52 (two years ago) link

I'd say my dig was both warranted and fairly restrained given what I copped earlier

There are alternatives to voting Labour, and I'm asking for solutions that provide more of these alternatives (and better ones)

imago, Monday, 6 December 2021 14:20 (two years ago) link


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