"we'll change the things that need changing and that's all we'll change": the paSUKification of post-brexit politics 2021

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Dugher nursing an old grudge whilst enjoying free drinks in a corporate box at monmore green racing track!

calzino, Monday, 29 November 2021 16:26 (two years ago) link

> Michael Dugher
> CEO @BetGameCouncil. Views here all mine. Board member @IvorsAcademy Trust.
> Fellow @LeedsMusicDrama. Ex-CEO @UK_Music, MP, Shadow SofS & No10 chief spokesman

being an mp is low on the list of priorities if his twitter bio is anything to go by

koogs, Monday, 29 November 2021 17:59 (two years ago) link

not sure it was ever adequately high but he hasn't been an mp since 2017

mark s, Monday, 29 November 2021 18:24 (two years ago) link

UGH

I'm told Yvette Cooper has definitely been offered Shadow Home Secretary

— Sienna Rodgers (@siennamarla) November 29, 2021

mardheamac (gyac), Monday, 29 November 2021 18:27 (two years ago) link

Labour is back in business. pic.twitter.com/khoqUVCR4W

— The Labour Party (@UKLabour) November 29, 2021

koogs, Monday, 29 November 2021 19:01 (two years ago) link

Lol Wes Streeting is shadow health?!

Deputy Leader, Shadow First Secretary of State, Shadow Chancellor of the Duchy of Lancaster and Shadow Secretary of State for the Future of Work: Angela Rayner
Shadow Chancellor of the Exchequer: Rachel Reeves
Shadow Secretary of State for Business and Industrial Strategy: Jonathan Reynolds
Shadow Secretary of State of Climate Change and Net Zero: Ed Miliband
Shadow Secretary of State for Levelling Up, Housing, Communities & Local Government: Lisa Nandy
Shadow Secretary of State for Defence: John Healey
Shadow Secretary of State for Digital, Culture, Media and Sport: Lucy Powell
Shadow Secretary of State for Education: Bridget Phillipson
Shadow Secretary of State for Environment, Food and Rural Affairs: Jim McMahon
Shadow Secretary of State for Foreign, Commonwealth & Development Affairs: David Lammy
Shadow Secretary of State for Health and Social Care: Wes Streeting
Shadow Secretary of State for the Home Department: Yvette Cooper
Shadow Secretary of State for International Trade: Nick Thomas-Symonds
Shadow Minister of State at the Cabinet Office: Jenny Chapman
Shadow Secretary of State for Justice: Steve Reed
Shadow Secretary of State for Transport: Louise Haigh
Shadow Secretary of State for Women and Equalities, Party Chair and Chair of Labour Policy Review: Anneliese Dodds
Shadow Secretary of State for Work and Pensions: Jonathan Ashworth

Shadow Attorney General: Emily Thornberry

Shadow Cabinet Minister for Mental Health: Rosena Allin-Khan*
Shadow Cabinet Minister for International Development: Preet Gill **
Shadow Chief Secretary to HM Treasury: Pat McFadden ***

Shadow Secretary of State for Wales: Jo Stevens
Shadow Secretary of State for Scotland: Ian Murray
Shadow Secretary of State for Northern Ireland: Peter Kyle


I'm so broken. I have to go to McDonalds.

— Wes Streeting MP (@wesstreeting) August 24, 2013

mardheamac (gyac), Monday, 29 November 2021 20:14 (two years ago) link

the grown-ups are back, baby

huile about oeuf (Noodle Vague), Monday, 29 November 2021 21:09 (two years ago) link

Shadow Minister of State at the Cabinet Office: Jenny Chapman

đź‘€

calzino, Monday, 29 November 2021 21:10 (two years ago) link

borrowing "levelling up" from the Tories is an exceptionally feeb move even for Kieth

huile about oeuf (Noodle Vague), Monday, 29 November 2021 21:16 (two years ago) link

Yvette Cooper eh? That would have thoroughly depressed at one time, but since I've no intention of voting Labour again in my life I can take this with the appropriate level of wgaf now lol.

calzino, Monday, 29 November 2021 21:19 (two years ago) link

Can’t wait for them to poll at 2010 levels again

mardheamac (gyac), Monday, 29 November 2021 21:28 (two years ago) link

Cooper has become such a mythical figure amongst melt groupthink that Dunty seems to have forgotten that he used to pretend to hate her for being so racist and right-wing. And this nonsense about how great she is at dispatch box pantomime didn't do her any good when Corbyn made her look rather trivial and empty in 2015. She's got a wafer thin majority as well and probably almost a dead cert to lose her seat in the next election.

calzino, Tuesday, 30 November 2021 08:17 (two years ago) link

It's like Hatherley just posted. Kieth attacking Johnson for dishonesty is not a very bright move and when it comes to election time they will "this you" him with all the pledges he feigned to con the membership into voting for him, which both makes him look dishonest or even deceptively progressive to the Tory voters he's trying to win over.

calzino, Tuesday, 30 November 2021 10:56 (two years ago) link

haha, yes i hadn't thought about the second part of that. it not only reminds the left of the party that he lied, it parades the pledges in front of right wing voters they're trying to win. lol

plax (ico), Tuesday, 30 November 2021 13:15 (two years ago) link

Idk, maybe right wing voters will find it funny that labour members got so comprehensively clowned. Who really cares about their political enemies being betrayed?

who's afraid of adrian woolfe? (Bananaman Begins), Tuesday, 30 November 2021 13:35 (two years ago) link

of course that won't bother them, it's the pledges that will do the damage - even if he had no intention of honouring them it will plant the seed that this guy is a progressive in a Tory suit disguise.

calzino, Tuesday, 30 November 2021 13:41 (two years ago) link

periodical reminder that most of Corbyn's (let alone early-Starmer's) policies were >50% favoured when polled in isolation

imago, Tuesday, 30 November 2021 13:44 (two years ago) link

alive in here i'm alive in here i'm aliiiiive in heeeeere

imago, Tuesday, 30 November 2021 13:44 (two years ago) link

and Labour don't get the same free pass with barefaced lying as the Tories do.

calzino, Tuesday, 30 November 2021 13:45 (two years ago) link

Yes the old racists whose “trust” they are trying to “win back” will always insist that labour want to open the door to all the immigrants no matter how frantically they signal the opposite

coombination gazza hut & scampo bell (wins), Tuesday, 30 November 2021 13:45 (two years ago) link

Yeah but what I'm saying is that Starmer's initial pledges would still be broadly popular even if he has gone back on all of them for Blairite reasons

imago, Tuesday, 30 November 2021 13:56 (two years ago) link

ask the Hastings RNLI workers on how "Defend Migrants’ Rights" is polling with Tory voters in their town!

calzino, Tuesday, 30 November 2021 14:02 (two years ago) link

Possible for something to be >50% popular but also widely despised by gammons whom Labour should never be pandering to

My faith is that this nation is not majority gammon. Brexit wasn't in itself a gammon referendum. Many have recanted; many voted out of frustration and spite rather than deeply-held xenophobia

imago, Tuesday, 30 November 2021 14:11 (two years ago) link

I’d want to see some evidence of that

mardheamac (gyac), Tuesday, 30 November 2021 14:18 (two years ago) link

I did say 'faith' tbf lol

imago, Tuesday, 30 November 2021 14:26 (two years ago) link

Faith isn't evidence

xyzzzz__, Tuesday, 30 November 2021 14:55 (two years ago) link

one Starmer aide told the Politico newsletter – a daily note for Westminster insiders – that the reshuffle had put, “fresh hungry effective message-carriers in key briefs”.

jesus fucking wept

calzino, Tuesday, 30 November 2021 14:59 (two years ago) link

hungry hungry hypocrites

nashwan, Tuesday, 30 November 2021 15:00 (two years ago) link

Fresh hungry effective budgie smugglers or tight briefs.

When Smeato Met Moaty (Tom D.), Tuesday, 30 November 2021 15:28 (two years ago) link

Everybody knows Boris is a liar, they just don't care that he's a liar.

When Smeato Met Moaty (Tom D.), Tuesday, 30 November 2021 15:29 (two years ago) link

BBC radio coverage of reshuffle: "there's an emphasis on YOUTH, as Wes Streeting is promoted".

Not what they would say if the much younger Zarah Sultana was promoted.

the pinefox, Tuesday, 30 November 2021 16:14 (two years ago) link

If you can count on European heads of state to do anything, it’s calling centuries of colonial domination + nurtured dependency “friendship” https://t.co/I9jYRxU6HY

— ZoĂ© (@ztsamudzi) November 30, 2021

xyzzzz__, Tuesday, 30 November 2021 16:19 (two years ago) link

Streeting is 38, am reminded of when Jo Swindon was asked about how to get young people into politics and responded “I’m a young politician!” (She was 39 at the time)

mardheamac (gyac), Tuesday, 30 November 2021 16:27 (two years ago) link

If I had ÂŁ80k+ pa and full bennies and the rest, well I might feel 10-20 years younger!

calzino, Tuesday, 30 November 2021 16:38 (two years ago) link

As if the queen isn’t turning in her grave over Barbados becoming a republic

coombination gazza hut & scampo bell (wins), Tuesday, 30 November 2021 16:49 (two years ago) link

That's amusing about "Swindon". Who has gone to oblivion.

the pinefox, Wednesday, 1 December 2021 10:05 (two years ago) link

Surprised Streeting wasn't given Shadow Minister for McDonald's, but I guess lobbying for them is sort of his main hobby anyway so no need?

hiroyoshi tins in (Sgt. Biscuits), Wednesday, 1 December 2021 10:46 (two years ago) link

Good luck to these good ppl

Senior managers in our sector are generally total incompetents and become bullies to compensate. They make outrageous salaries and contribute literally nothing that makes the lives of students or university staff better. https://t.co/ewqIBQaOml

— Jack Saundrs ❤🖤 (@jack_saundrs) December 1, 2021

xyzzzz__, Wednesday, 1 December 2021 10:48 (two years ago) link

I laughed the other day when some muppet described McShitter as "soft-left" in a reshuffle report, lol what a joke.

calzino, Wednesday, 1 December 2021 10:50 (two years ago) link

lol BYE

Yes!! Labour’s main union backer says it will cut political funding https://t.co/iLCFhJOM3J

— Chardine Taylor Stone (@ChardineTaylor) December 2, 2021



In a move that could blow a hole in Keir Starmer’s general election war chest, Graham said that while Unite would still pay £1m in affiliation fees to Labour, “there’s a lot of other money that we use from our political fund where, actually, I’m not sure we’re getting the best value for it”.

Graham, speaking to the Guardian to mark her first 100 days as leader of Britain’s biggest private sector union, said: “The fact that I am being quite robust is because Labour needs to talk about workers, needs to defend workers and needs to defend communities.”

She described this week’s Labour reshuffle, regarded by many at Westminster as a shift to the right, as “white noise” and lamented the lack of a shadow secretary of state for employment rights and protections, saying it was “not a good signal” for the party to send.


Better hope Reeves and Streeting attract those donors!

mardheamac (gyac), Thursday, 2 December 2021 20:29 (two years ago) link

Sharon Graham always seems to make very good decisions, respect!

calzino, Thursday, 2 December 2021 20:31 (two years ago) link

They might not get the donors till they ditch the dud. Oh christ they are going to try and make Cooper happen again.

calzino, Thursday, 2 December 2021 20:42 (two years ago) link

I'd forgotten that when SG had just won the Unite gen sec election, then the Starmer office were trying to spin some copium that it was a good result for him. Lol not looking so good for him now. I can't remember the name of the other left-wing candidate or whatever split the vote with his + SG's supporters but it seems the correct one won it.

calzino, Friday, 3 December 2021 17:25 (two years ago) link

Incredible vibe. Calz, you should get in touch with the party, they could be paying you a consultancy fee for this insight!

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FFrfhWCXEAA5s3c?format=jpg&name=large

mardheamac (gyac), Friday, 3 December 2021 18:04 (two years ago) link

christ such unbelievably pathetic self-pity/self-victimisation from the guy that has trashed everything in the room and then told hundreds of thousands of people to fuck off!

calzino, Friday, 3 December 2021 18:35 (two years ago) link

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FFtDEDRXwAcLEG7?format=png&name=small

lol, two years ago was a hell of a trip

calzino, Friday, 3 December 2021 18:57 (two years ago) link

This is a literal death sentence for people with addiction, uncontrolled withdrawal kills.

It will just mean empowering the drug trade in prison, and deepening addictions. https://t.co/2NjmYJJwav

— Rory MacLean (@rory_maclean) December 3, 2021

xyzzzz__, Friday, 3 December 2021 20:19 (two years ago) link

Really these ppl are pathetic

This is about three people standing outside a mansion with cardboard signs. https://t.co/sB4ZzHdU15 pic.twitter.com/OES0o1R85o

— Euan Yours (@EuanYours) December 2, 2021

xyzzzz__, Friday, 3 December 2021 20:27 (two years ago) link

that brief paragraph is the worst N American commentariat bullshit seen or heard since erm.. that moment the other day when I heard Steven Pinker say on R4 "even left-wing politicians like Barack Obama and Hilary Clinton used to be against gay marriage".

calzino, Friday, 3 December 2021 20:42 (two years ago) link

“I said to Keir Starmer when I met him in this office, I find it disappointing – and I’m being diplomatic – I find it disappointing that Labour are not coming out far more robustly in terms of what’s happening to workers and communities.”

Graham has said she will be seeking to cut donations from Unite to Labour. Not the affiliation fee, but the “awful lot of money on top of the affiliation fee” that the union has been giving to the party from its political fund – an amount she says is “staggering, sometimes, in its nature”. Where will that money go instead? Graham has a clear answer: driving campaigns that her members believe in.

tfw all you can enjoy about the current shitshow is the first bit of REAL opposition (as in hitting them where it really hurts) to the craven bunch of bigoted crooks that are supposed to be the opposition

calzino, Saturday, 4 December 2021 12:36 (two years ago) link


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