Too LOW: ILM Artist Poll #111 - Low - RESULTS

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22. Coattails
Released on The Curtain Hits The Cast (1996)
424 points, 13 voters
Studio version

ufo, Thursday, 25 November 2021 20:21 (two years ago) link

first draft of my list, “coattails” was no. 1

STOCK FIST-PUMPER BRAD (BradNelson), Thursday, 25 November 2021 20:34 (two years ago) link

otherworldly swirl of mystery

STOCK FIST-PUMPER BRAD (BradNelson), Thursday, 25 November 2021 20:34 (two years ago) link

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21. Starfire
Released on Secret Name (1999)
428 points, 15 voters, 1 #1 vote
Studio version

ufo, Thursday, 25 November 2021 20:38 (two years ago) link

Yes, voted for these last three. The Plan and Coattails both my top ten. All fucking time. What a band.

kraudive, Thursday, 25 November 2021 20:49 (two years ago) link

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20. Fly
Released on Double Negative (2018)
433 points, 12 voters, 1 #1 vote
Music video
Live at NOX ORAE 2019

ufo, Thursday, 25 November 2021 20:51 (two years ago) link

probably steve garrington's greatest moment? both that bass line & those keyboards

ufo, Thursday, 25 November 2021 20:51 (two years ago) link

! Had written it off placing at this point. One of my SN that made the cut.

Western® with Bacon Flavor, Thursday, 25 November 2021 20:52 (two years ago) link

There's a lot of this record isn't there.

kraudive, Thursday, 25 November 2021 20:55 (two years ago) link

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19. Quorum
Released on Double Negative (2018)
438 points, 14 voters
Music video
Live at NOX ORAE 2019

ufo, Thursday, 25 November 2021 21:04 (two years ago) link

remember when they premiered the first three tracks of double negative and since then we’ve been living in a fundamentally different universe

STOCK FIST-PUMPER BRAD (BradNelson), Thursday, 25 November 2021 21:08 (two years ago) link

That was such a brilliant way to announce what they were doing. As a long-time fan of 'weird' Low, I was so proud and excited.

Soundslike, Thursday, 25 November 2021 21:16 (two years ago) link

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18. Dinosaur Act
Released on Things We Lost In The Fire (2001)
440 points, 14 voters, 1 #1 vote
Music video

ufo, Thursday, 25 November 2021 21:19 (two years ago) link

dinosaur aaaaaaact

STOCK FIST-PUMPER BRAD (BradNelson), Thursday, 25 November 2021 21:25 (two years ago) link

dinosaur aaaaaaaaact

STOCK FIST-PUMPER BRAD (BradNelson), Thursday, 25 November 2021 21:27 (two years ago) link

Again. Expected this really high. Great track. This poll is weird.

kraudive, Thursday, 25 November 2021 21:28 (two years ago) link

This was the first of their songs where I got Neil Young vibes.

Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 25 November 2021 21:30 (two years ago) link

love Dinosaur Act

byebyepride, Thursday, 25 November 2021 21:32 (two years ago) link

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17. Hey
Released on HEY WHAT (2021)
461 points, 15 voters
Studio version

ufo, Thursday, 25 November 2021 21:33 (two years ago) link

heyyyyyyyyyy

STOCK FIST-PUMPER BRAD (BradNelson), Thursday, 25 November 2021 21:34 (two years ago) link

this is the only song from hey what that made my ballot. rest of the album still feels too new, but “hey”… first time i heard it i thought it was the best song ever

STOCK FIST-PUMPER BRAD (BradNelson), Thursday, 25 November 2021 21:35 (two years ago) link

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16. Pissing
Released on The Great Destroyer (2005)
479 points, 16 voters
Studio version
Live from the Fitzgerald Theater 2018

ufo, Thursday, 25 November 2021 21:57 (two years ago) link

does it make sense to stop here for today with thanksgiving and everythin? i can do another 5 if people want but i think it makes more sense to do the top 15 tomorrow?

ufo, Thursday, 25 November 2021 21:59 (two years ago) link

the studio version of "pissing" is good but doesn't really compare to how immense the live versions are

ufo, Thursday, 25 November 2021 22:03 (two years ago) link

Sounds good!

Western® with Bacon Flavor, Thursday, 25 November 2021 22:04 (two years ago) link

15 tomorrow is good!

kraudive, Thursday, 25 November 2021 22:15 (two years ago) link

The first three words of Starfire sound like Alan's about to sing "They call him Flipper, Flipper, Flipper the dolphin."

Hideous Lump, Thursday, 25 November 2021 22:20 (two years ago) link

starfire was my #1 - too low!

just staying (Karl Malone), Thursday, 25 November 2021 23:42 (two years ago) link

Friday is also a holiday in the US but I hope we can get some people to check in for the final 15

"Coattails" is so simply constructed: a single one-note vocal line under a repeated arpeggio, bookended by a trudging riff. Amazing what they turn that into

"Fly" was my #1. Love everything about it: the mood they spin, the electronic touches, the haunting melody line and lyrics. everything I want from this band!

"Pissing" never stood out for me on Great Destroyer, maybe because it follows "Broadway". but I'm listening back now and realizing this song is way better than I gave it credit for

Vinnie, Friday, 26 November 2021 00:02 (two years ago) link

It's their best song about pissing!

cwkiii, Friday, 26 November 2021 00:18 (two years ago) link

Overall, revisiting their oeuvre in full these last weeks has really just hit home how excellent even all the tracks I didn't register over the years as "favorites" really are excellent (things like "Pissing" as an example prompting the thought).

'C'mon,' 'Invisible Way,' and 'Ones & Sixes' still don't really hit me like 10 or so other albums... But they're at worst "good" even so. Made me realize I like 'The Great Destroyer' much more than I did at the time--I think at the time I was hoping for more "weird" Low (which I got in spades on the next album), and I was disappointed by the guitar-god-ness of it, but now I hear it as a cohesive collection of really stellar songs, produced in a way I wouldn't want ever song to be, but that was well warranted.

I'd easily say they're my favorite "rock" band of my lifetime, more consistently great than Radiohead (probably the only other rock band that's kept my attention over all these years).

Soundslike, Friday, 26 November 2021 00:23 (two years ago) link

From #61-#36, there have been 13 songs which received a #1 vote, which appeared on 10 different releases.

Weirdly, the only record to have multiple songs receive #1 votes so far is Secret Name, which has 4 or 5 of them (depending on whether the #1 voter for "Will the Night" specifically intended the Dead Pilot version)

Jimmy Iovine Eat World (bernard snowy), Friday, 26 November 2021 01:10 (two years ago) link

i know no one needs to read this in the low poll thread but i've been revisiting as well and i'm even more convinced they have nothing to offer me any more. i was into them when i was a very confused person, and i can't unhear that confusion when i listen to them now, even in the newer stuff. the tension i hear in everything they've made between darkness and light feels completely unnecessary to me now, like a massive dead end. it becomes more pronounced after 2002. it doesn't help that i generally don't find their lyrics convincing at all (they do a lot of hedging imo). the earlier stuff has an appealing innocence or open-heartedness to it that i don't hear in the later work. but anyway, that's all i can give them, even though from a distance i appreciate how gifted they are and what they were able to do with it. although even that i feel the need to qualify somehow. signed, a low fan no longer.

Nedlene Grendel as Basenji Holmo (map), Friday, 26 November 2021 01:11 (two years ago) link

The tension is unnecessary in the grand scheme of things

Jimmy Iovine Eat World (bernard snowy), Friday, 26 November 2021 01:15 (two years ago) link

...but essential to their music. Think of them like a really good crime novelist or something.

Jimmy Iovine Eat World (bernard snowy), Friday, 26 November 2021 01:16 (two years ago) link

That tension seems essential to... the human condition?

Curious--in what ways were you confused, now enlightened, that that struggle within Low (or humanity) holds no appeal?

Soundslike, Friday, 26 November 2021 01:54 (two years ago) link

not a good faith question, i'm done in this thread

Nedlene Grendel as Basenji Holmo (map), Friday, 26 November 2021 02:08 (two years ago) link

I was genuinely curious what made that tension hold no appeal, as it seems fundamental to life itself (as opposed to say depression or hard times, both of which I know personally). But as you wish.

Soundslike, Friday, 26 November 2021 03:08 (two years ago) link

I also ask having created a two-part "introduction to Low" mix some while back called 'A Light in Darkness' specifically themed around that duality and tension, which I find not only compelling but necessary. So you're wrong ti say I ask how you changed such that that part of Low and their art became superflouous at best and a cause to entirely dismiss them at worst.

I'm not a huge lyrics parser (despite of or perhaps because of having a literature degree) but it seems to me few lyricists are as forthrightly expressing their own experience and struggles as Alan and Mimi. Whether those lyrics are brilliant is an argument to be had I guess--to me they play their role in the overall music aptly and sometimes with great pithy beauty. But "hedged" (as opposed to, say, "struggling" or "searching" or rife with longing, anger, sometimes hope) seems a vast oversimplification and a mischaracterization.

Soundslike, Friday, 26 November 2021 03:31 (two years ago) link

"Wrong to say I ask in bad faith..." that is.

Soundslike, Friday, 26 November 2021 03:32 (two years ago) link

Low has some of the best lyrics-in-the-interrogative imo. At one point a few years ago I tried to make a playlist of them all (naturally titled "What Part of Me") but I'm sure I missed some.

Jimmy Iovine Eat World (bernard snowy), Friday, 26 November 2021 03:50 (two years ago) link

Always Trying To Work It Out, Quorum, and Dinosaur Act were in my top ten.

Always ... is an oasis of relative calm and basic human emotion among the chaos of DN, although it's the queasy, drunk vocal effects that make the track what it is.

I meant to vote for Pissing, I discovered I'd left it off my ballot after submitting it, totally inexcusable.

NoTimeBeforeTime, Friday, 26 November 2021 06:22 (two years ago) link

It's their best song about pissing!

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I actually prefer “Plastic Cup”!

sctttnnnt (pgwp), Friday, 26 November 2021 07:50 (two years ago) link

I have to be honest, I've never really gelled with Starfire.

Long enough attention span for a Stephen Bissette blu-ray extra (aldo), Friday, 26 November 2021 09:58 (two years ago) link

it's not at all bad but it's pretty far from my favourite side of theirs

ufo, Friday, 26 November 2021 10:18 (two years ago) link

Coattails and The Plan are top five, often number ones for me depending on my mood. When I write that it blows my mind that people like songs like "Always" better than "The Plan," it's because it does. Almost every single person I know irl agrees with me, it's only on this board that people slobber over "Low with cool effects," which is honestly the way that I think of the later records.

The early stuff is better.

I'm a sovereign jizz citizen (the table is the table), Friday, 26 November 2021 12:31 (two years ago) link

imagine writing a song about your mate who runs a pirate radio station out the back of an ambulance. it doesn't get better.

maelin, Friday, 26 November 2021 13:21 (two years ago) link

xp I kinda feel like a Grammy nomination for Best Engineered Album (Non-Classical) is a form of slobbering, so it's definitely not just this board!

cwkiii, Friday, 26 November 2021 13:27 (two years ago) link

table, you like techno. Dismissing something as "Low with cool effects" is kinda beneath you?

Tim F, Friday, 26 November 2021 13:30 (two years ago) link

Low *is* a cool effect, and has been from the start.

Josh in Chicago, Friday, 26 November 2021 13:36 (two years ago) link


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