Anticipating Paul Thomas Anderson’s Licorice Pizza

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Ballads are Ballads but part of the "Power" is the showstopping, reach for the rafters sing-along chorus.

Precious, Grace, Hill & Beard LTD. (C. Grisso/McCain), Wednesday, 24 November 2021 20:04 (two years ago) link

ANTHEMS

Precious, Grace, Hill & Beard LTD. (C. Grisso/McCain), Wednesday, 24 November 2021 20:06 (two years ago) link

Possibly substitute Queen for ELO.

Precious, Grace, Hill & Beard LTD. (C. Grisso/McCain), Wednesday, 24 November 2021 20:09 (two years ago) link

Juice Newton - “ Angel of the Morning” is a total 70’s powerballad

terminators of endearment (VegemiteGrrl), Wednesday, 24 November 2021 20:12 (two years ago) link

candle in the wind is just a ballad imo

terminators of endearment (VegemiteGrrl), Wednesday, 24 November 2021 20:13 (two years ago) link

I've always maintained that Whitesnake's Here I Go Again is just a rewrite of Angel of the Morning

Andy the Grasshopper, Wednesday, 24 November 2021 20:18 (two years ago) link

Whoa Juice has kind of a crazy-eyed Kate Bush thing going here... pretty awesome

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HTzGMEfbnAw

Andy the Grasshopper, Wednesday, 24 November 2021 20:22 (two years ago) link

Nazareth: "Love Hurts" so good (their covers of "Hollis Brown" proto-folk-metal ritualizm, the Joni cover, though blanking on title, more ov a power folkie-ballad)(they should have done "Candle In The Wind," then it would have been proper power ballad) But I was thinking more "tasteful romantic move by 80s metal etc."

dow, Wednesday, 24 November 2021 21:35 (two years ago) link

Joni cover = "This Flight Tonight"

Precious, Grace, Hill & Beard LTD. (C. Grisso/McCain), Wednesday, 24 November 2021 22:35 (two years ago) link

Ramones had a few!

clemenza, Wednesday, 24 November 2021 23:06 (two years ago) link

For an acoustic guy, Cat Stevens had a ton of these.

... (Eazy), Thursday, 25 November 2021 01:02 (two years ago) link

Licorice Pizza Love Jams

Precious, Grace, Hill & Beard LTD. (C. Grisso/McCain), Thursday, 25 November 2021 01:17 (two years ago) link

I don't even own a Film Twitter, but sorta surprised the grievance Chaw had that's getting run with is the age difference thing and not the racial thing, but OTOH I guess the former is easier to address without having yet seen the movie.

Precious, Grace, Hill & Beard LTD. (C. Grisso/McCain), Thursday, 25 November 2021 01:22 (two years ago) link

Between the trailers for THE TENDER BAR and LICORICE PIZZA this weekend, I was deeply irritated with lovingly recreated 70s scuzz. So of course AFI Silver just announced a 70mm screening of LP for this Saturday evening. (It previously was scheduled to open there Christmas Day; no word on analog or digital format.) Decisions, decisions.

Infanta Terrible (j.lu), Monday, 6 December 2021 18:36 (two years ago) link

goddamn i hated this so much. what a bullshit white dude nostalgia trip. and im a jew that grew up in the valley! it should have hit different. oh well.

kurt schwitterz, Monday, 6 December 2021 18:44 (two years ago) link

These types of films aren't always (or even usually) aimed at people who shared in their era, experience, geography, etc.

we need outrage! we need dicks!! (the table is the table), Tuesday, 7 December 2021 21:12 (two years ago) link

As in, I can totally see hating it, especially if your experience has some parallels in the movie itself.

I also haven't seen it, though. I'm speaking more "generally."

we need outrage! we need dicks!! (the table is the table), Tuesday, 7 December 2021 21:13 (two years ago) link

goddamn i hated this so much. what a bullshit white dude nostalgia trip. and im a jew that grew up in the valley! it should have hit different. oh well.

― kurt schwitterz, Monday, December 6, 2021 6:44 PM (yesterday) bookmarkflaglink

this is what it looked like to me, i'm going to avoid it.

some review was talking about it portraying scrappy small business owners and that's when i decided no thanks, i'd rather watch train cab footage at home.

Nedlene Grendel as Basenji Holmo (map), Tuesday, 7 December 2021 21:46 (two years ago) link

Not scheduled for either of the independents/rep houses in my area, so it must be getting a Cineplex opening.

clemenza, Tuesday, 7 December 2021 23:13 (two years ago) link

So, wait, it's not a good movie about people working?

I love those!

So who you gonna call? The martini police (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 7 December 2021 23:15 (two years ago) link

Just read a post on Criterionforum about an advance screening a few days ago at an Austin Alamo Drafthouse that had a surprise appearance from Alana Haim, who-in lieu of doing an after-screening Q&A-treated the audience to a secret Haim show at a neighboring club.

Precious, Grace, Hill & Beard LTD. (C. Grisso/McCain), Tuesday, 7 December 2021 23:38 (two years ago) link

xxp it's distributed by Universal here in Canada, so of course it's Cineplex

but also if you wanna come to Toronto, the Lightbox is getting a 70mm run (there's an advance screening this Sat that sold most of its tix to TIFF members, fucking TIFF)

Murgatroid, Wednesday, 8 December 2021 00:30 (two years ago) link

I've made the trek into Toronto two or three times (two-and-a-half hours), but if it's opening here, I'd have to be promised dinner with the cast or something.

clemenza, Wednesday, 8 December 2021 02:13 (two years ago) link

Bro if this movie was about people just regular ass working in the valley I'd be all about it.

kurt schwitterz, Wednesday, 8 December 2021 02:14 (two years ago) link

Good interview w Anderson on The New Yorker Radio Hour---he knows how to sell it of course, but mainly about backstory of plot and what it's like to direct Hoffman and Haim, both of whom he's known for quite a while---Hoffman's character seems based or fusion of his own persona and that of 15-year-old Anderson, pestering and then (as he remembers it) bonding with a couple of his sister's friends (18, 19, had cars omg, though of course Haim is still older)https://podcasts.google.com/feed/aHR0cDovL2ZlZWRzLndueWMub3JnL25ld3lvcmtlcnJhZGlvaG91cg/episode/ZTg4MDMyOWEtY2M5ZC00ZDRkLThhMz

dow, Monday, 13 December 2021 00:41 (two years ago) link

Oops--not on there yet, sorry.

dow, Monday, 13 December 2021 00:42 (two years ago) link

It's playing now (while I'm signed in to Google, haven't tried otherwise)

dow, Monday, 13 December 2021 01:42 (two years ago) link

Best movie of the year, ridiculously good

licorice in the front, pizza in the rear (Whiney G. Weingarten), Wednesday, 22 December 2021 16:36 (two years ago) link

Dang, and I was looking forward to this one too.

Max Hamburgers (Eric H.), Wednesday, 22 December 2021 16:39 (two years ago) link

Lol

hopefully this review helped someone (Neanderthal), Wednesday, 22 December 2021 17:02 (two years ago) link

I don't know what to think, a promising sign. The time line confused me: Gary's a high schooler who in the course of the film opens a water bed store and pinball joint? Alana Haim's a natural, though, and those tracking shots adore her. Most tolerable Bradley Cooper work in a long time -- I hope Babs was thrilled.

So who you gonna call? The martini police (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Saturday, 25 December 2021 21:03 (two years ago) link

I can tell you I don't care much for the Valentine character and Hoffman performance, especially PTA's insistence that we adore him. The ending irritated the fuck outta me.

So maybe I didn't like the film after all.

So who you gonna call? The martini police (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Saturday, 25 December 2021 21:15 (two years ago) link

That we adore Hoffman or Valentine?

licorice in the front, pizza in the rear (Whiney G. Weingarten), Saturday, 25 December 2021 22:52 (two years ago) link

both!

So who you gonna call? The martini police (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Sunday, 26 December 2021 01:08 (two years ago) link

Ah, I don’t think the character was supposed to be adored! I got Max Fischer vibes.

licorice in the front, pizza in the rear (Whiney G. Weingarten), Sunday, 26 December 2021 01:29 (two years ago) link

Honest to god, the whole film I thought I was watching Gandolfini's son in the lead role...I liked the ending--a Google search on the film turns up a piece complaining about the ending; didn't read it, baffled as to what they wanted--liked the restaurant scene with the closeted mayoral candidate, and the music was better than I expected from the advance song list (without ever being outstanding). And that's about it, I'm sorry to say--and the trailer had me in a very receptive frame of mind. Without going on about specific scenes that dragged on forever, I'll just sum up by saying the two leads fell woefully short for me, and the marquee cameos weren't much better. (Embarrassed to say I didn't recognize Penn for the first couple of minutes.)

Minor thing: Vin Scully on the radio, post-season underway, making reference to Garvey's 111 RBI and Jimmy Wynn's 108 for the season. The first isn't especially helpful in ID'ing the moment, but the second's automatic: October 1974, Wynn's one great year with the Dodgers. That's early on; much later in the film, Nixon's still president, two months after he would have resigned. I cut films a lot of slack with regards to music--if you need to cheat to work a specific song in, like "Come Sail Away" in The Virgin Suicides, cheat away, it's worth it--but I don't know, that felt sloppy. Of no consequence whatsoever, just the kind I thing I might not have noticed in a better film.

clemenza, Friday, 31 December 2021 22:21 (two years ago) link

Two obvious homages: the cherry bomb and American Graffiti, and--I think--Taxi Driver with the lurking weirdo outside the campaign headquarters.

clemenza, Friday, 31 December 2021 22:25 (two years ago) link

My only real problem with the music was “Life on Mars”

licorice in the front, pizza in the rear (Whiney G. Weingarten), Saturday, 1 January 2022 01:41 (two years ago) link

I didn't mind it, but it is a little familiar, and was better in the trailer. (There's another film that used it very prominently in the past few years...I thought maybe The Martian, but that was "Starman.") What I liked: Sonny & Cher, Mason Williams, Clarence Carter, and "Let Me Roll It," and I thought "Peace Frog" worked surprisingly well. Major sin: burying "I Saw the Light."

clemenza, Saturday, 1 January 2022 02:43 (two years ago) link

"Life On Mars" was prominently placed in Life Aquatic, which might have been where movie people rediscovered it.

Precious, Grace, Hill & Beard LTD. (C. Grisso/McCain), Saturday, 1 January 2022 04:36 (two years ago) link

Oh, and before that it was in some versions of Breaking The Waves.

Precious, Grace, Hill & Beard LTD. (C. Grisso/McCain), Saturday, 1 January 2022 04:38 (two years ago) link

Was it a cover in Life Aquatic? I think it's Breaking the Waves I'm thinking of.

clemenza, Saturday, 1 January 2022 06:38 (two years ago) link

I think it had both the original and a cover

Muad'Doob (Moodles), Saturday, 1 January 2022 06:39 (two years ago) link

saw this in 70mm today. the first scene completely enthralled me, though I felt the middle bits were a little hit or miss (hit: bradley cooper sideplot, benny safdie sideplot; miss: sean penn sideplot). I mostly thought the music worked. honestly I was blown away by haim and hoffman

auld gang syne (k3vin k.), Wednesday, 12 January 2022 00:44 (two years ago) link

Didn't realize that was Benny Safdie (I mean, I'd never even seen him before, not that didn't make the connection).

clemenza, Wednesday, 12 January 2022 01:43 (two years ago) link

have you seen GOOD TIME?

auld gang syne (k3vin k.), Wednesday, 12 January 2022 01:59 (two years ago) link

Nope. Think I was one of the few naysayers on Uncut Gems here.

clemenza, Wednesday, 12 January 2022 02:01 (two years ago) link

oh, boo. boo!

auld gang syne (k3vin k.), Wednesday, 12 January 2022 02:10 (two years ago) link

I posted this in the wrong thread a few weeks back but:

speaking to the cooper performace, guy was COMEDY ACTING in a v try hard way b/w Penn and Waits scene it became a "here's this scene with a guest star in a wig!!! Now here's this scene with a guest star in a wig!" movie for a sec. like we get it you have famous friends, pta.

kurt schwitterz, Wednesday, 12 January 2022 05:20 (two years ago) link

Meaning I thought Cooper was painfully unfunny and the " StreiSAND like sand on a beach" scene was probs good on paper but very level 1 ucb sketch class on celluloid

kurt schwitterz, Wednesday, 12 January 2022 05:21 (two years ago) link


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