Autechre - classic or dud

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Lol

See you on Election Day 2024

Legalize Suburban Benches (Raymond Cummings), Wednesday, 24 November 2021 15:36 (two years ago) link

On to Incunabula

Legalize Suburban Benches (Raymond Cummings), Wednesday, 24 November 2021 15:52 (two years ago) link

If you need a bonus digestive there is an amazing live version of Kalpol Introl.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7uTUnTGb15c

feed me with your clicks (Noel Emits), Wednesday, 24 November 2021 16:08 (two years ago) link

Which I guess is a bit of a spoiler for the Anti EP.

feed me with your clicks (Noel Emits), Wednesday, 24 November 2021 16:12 (two years ago) link

is the eps box in spotify? because there are a couple of things before basscadet (vinyl only at the time, but they are in the box) (box also has another basscadet version)

koogs, Wednesday, 24 November 2021 17:10 (two years ago) link

I think it's only the Cavity Job 12" that's before Basscadet? Which isn't bad but more curate's egg than essential. I've owned most of the records but picked up the digital in one of bleep's boxing day sales for £10.

feed me with your clicks (Noel Emits), Wednesday, 24 November 2021 17:14 (two years ago) link

yeah. and the basscadet on the eps skips the two 3rd party remixes and adds one

Basscadet (Bcdtmx) 6:49
Basscadet (Beaumonthannanttwomx) 8:14 <- gone
Basscadet (Seefeelmx) 6:51 <- gone
Basscadet (Tazmx) 6:54
Basscadet (Basscadubmx) 9:37

vs

Basscadet Bcdtmx 6:48
Basscadet Basscadoublemx 4:26 <- added
Basscadet Tazmx 6:53
Basscadet Basscadubmx 9:37

koogs, Wednesday, 24 November 2021 17:24 (two years ago) link

Was delayed on listening due to work stuff but getting into it now.

Can definitely sense richness, mystery, etc. You could
put this on at a party in the late 90s (or today) and people would dig it but for the most part not ask “who is this by”

Legalize Suburban Benches (Raymond Cummings), Wednesday, 24 November 2021 18:22 (two years ago) link

Okay, maybe it’s a little idiosyncratic than that. Strangers who crashed your party might not ask who made the music but might invite you to their parties

Legalize Suburban Benches (Raymond Cummings), Wednesday, 24 November 2021 18:33 (two years ago) link

FYI Incunabula is made up of tracks selected by Warp from a large set they sent in, so Amber is kind’ve their first album qua album.

assert (matttkkkk), Wednesday, 24 November 2021 18:48 (two years ago) link

Although they have also said of Amber that they were trying a bit too much to make a "Warp" record.

Having put on Incunabula at parties in the 90s that's about right, although I want to say there was always something... xxp

feed me with your clicks (Noel Emits), Wednesday, 24 November 2021 19:13 (two years ago) link

Whenever I'm on hold and this comes on, I think of Incunabula

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bT9qeveLyP8

Urbandn hope all ye who enter here (dog latin), Wednesday, 24 November 2021 19:20 (two years ago) link

Don't forget Lego Feet! 1991 era work by Ae, before they landed on the Autechre name.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eYNGy5k53k8

octobeard, Wednesday, 24 November 2021 19:47 (two years ago) link

That Karpol Introl live was great. Any other similar early live stuff?

I am using your worlds, Wednesday, 24 November 2021 20:35 (two years ago) link

is this your first go with the group Raymond? always interested to hear what those who come in completely blind think.

there's a web reviewer named George Starostin who used to have one of those sites where he'd just try to review every album ever made (I think he may be still at it, actually). anyway he's a pretty hardcore "Beatles are the greatest of all time/No worthwhile music was made after '83" kinda guy and for some reason he decided to start reviewing Autechre. he liked some of their early stuff - first 3 albums, mostly - but after Confield he was just completely lost. he still decided to commit to the bit and review everything up to at least NTS 1, pretty much writing the same "are we sure they know what they're doing" review every time out. I felt a little bad for him by the end honestly.

frogbs, Wednesday, 24 November 2021 20:54 (two years ago) link

I’ve heard pretty much everything they’ve done (with the exception of the ocean of recent live records) at least three times.

The pre-1998 material I don’t know as well as the stuff beyond that point because I just don’t play it much - early AE is like a totally different enterprise to these ears! - so it’s almost like experiencing it for the first time, if that makes sense.

Legalize Suburban Benches (Raymond Cummings), Wednesday, 24 November 2021 21:00 (two years ago) link

A real trooper, George was, from the sound of things!

Legalize Suburban Benches (Raymond Cummings), Wednesday, 24 November 2021 21:01 (two years ago) link

To clarify further: LP5 is where I got onboard (as it came out). I went back and bought and/or heard what came before that but it’s never done much for me, tbh.

Legalize Suburban Benches (Raymond Cummings), Wednesday, 24 November 2021 21:02 (two years ago) link

there's a web reviewer named George Starostin who used to have one of those sites where he'd just try to review every album ever made (I think he may be still at it, actually). anyway he's a pretty hardcore "Beatles are the greatest of all time/No worthwhile music was made after '83" kinda guy and for some reason he decided to start reviewing Autechre. he liked some of their early stuff - first 3 albums, mostly - but after Confield he was just completely lost. he still decided to commit to the bit and review everything up to at least NTS 1, pretty much writing the same "are we sure they know what they're doing" review every time out. I felt a little bad for him by the end honestly.

I just looked at this guy's blog and while he really seems to hate a lot of their stuff (especially Exai/elseq/NTS) he did like Oversteps and Move of Ten. Seems like he would probably like SIGN/PLUS if he ever deciedes to review them.

silverfish, Wednesday, 24 November 2021 21:22 (two years ago) link

Basscadet Basscadoublemx 4:26 <- added
I had no idea about this. Searching now.

raven, Friday, 26 November 2021 07:01 (two years ago) link

Basscadet Basscadoublemx 4:26 <- added
I had no idea about this. Searching now.

Ah, it was originally vinyl only. It's fine, not essential.

raven, Friday, 26 November 2021 07:06 (two years ago) link

i think the bascadet 10"s were the first autechre things i saw, in the virgin megastore on oxford street (first i bought was the envane cd, although i probably had the artificial intelligence cds first)

koogs, Friday, 26 November 2021 09:05 (two years ago) link

The CD version of the EP box has the untitled hidden pregap track from EP7 at the start of Cichlisuite too, btw. (the download version doesn't have it, if discogs is correct)

StanM, Friday, 26 November 2021 09:38 (two years ago) link

The CD version of the EP box has the untitled hidden pregap track from EP7 at the start of Cichlisuite too, btw. (the download version doesn't have it, if discogs is correct)

Oh that's good! An important one. It's super-weird that it's split across 2 CDs though :/

raven, Friday, 26 November 2021 12:49 (two years ago) link

The EPs box is a cool object, but it is some work to figure out which EP you're actually listening to, especially if you aren't really familiar with the track titles. The Gonkcast guys admit their lack of familiarity with the individual EPs as such when covering them (but then they lack direct experience with the physical releases in general). I've been working through most of the discography and Gonkcast in tandem, currently up through Oversteps. It takes a while for their "takes" to emerge, but it's thoughtful, convivial and nice to listen to while chopping up vegetables or whatever.

eatandoph (Neue Jesse Schule), Friday, 26 November 2021 13:32 (two years ago) link

Not sure if I ever listened to that pre-gap track althogh I have owned EP7 on CD as well as vinyl (promos - an especially good pressing.) The EPs collection is remastered so the levels match nicely and it's easy to let it play through. One other thing missing from it is the alt version of Laughing Quarter.

feed me with your clicks (Noel Emits), Friday, 26 November 2021 13:57 (two years ago) link

Checked out my spotify wrapped thing for 2021 and according to it I am in the top 0.05% of autechre listeners for 2021. I guess with still listening to SIGN/PLUS a bunch and also going through the whole gonkcast podcast this was going to happen.

silverfish, Wednesday, 1 December 2021 18:18 (two years ago) link

six months pass...

Damn, this is a magical set.

https://autechre.bandcamp.com/track/ae-live-oslo-171116

Legalize Suburban Benches (Raymond Cummings), Sunday, 26 June 2022 13:28 (one year ago) link

was just reminded that in 1997 they produced a track for an artpop album by some Japanese singer named Mari Hamada

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jB0BY0EqijM

which I think is the only time you get to hear what Ae would sound like with vocals. it's really nice. they aren't on the rest of the album obviously but it's really worth checking out

frogbs, Tuesday, 28 June 2022 13:46 (one year ago) link

Never heard (of) that before, thanks.

ArchCarrier, Tuesday, 28 June 2022 14:13 (one year ago) link

Sean was a bit down on that track in the recent chat - it was basically a demo that got taken for the final mix iirc - but I've always liked it.

dear confusion the catastrophe waitress (ledge), Tuesday, 28 June 2022 14:17 (one year ago) link

i was shocked to find out it is a cover https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DMYiRsoUKBw

idk man (noz), Tuesday, 28 June 2022 17:17 (one year ago) link

I did not know that either. the whole Mari Hamada album is a mystery, would love to read a track by track breakdown on how it came to be. how did Autechre even get involved? I know they've done some remixes of stuff with vocals but nothing else like this

frogbs, Tuesday, 28 June 2022 17:43 (one year ago) link

just scanning the credits of the album, some of the production team were members of soft ballet, who had recently done a remix album (soft ballet forms) with a number of warp artists

the late great, Tuesday, 28 June 2022 17:52 (one year ago) link

including autechre, actually

the late great, Tuesday, 28 June 2022 17:54 (one year ago) link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=63ztC74ODRI

the late great, Tuesday, 28 June 2022 17:56 (one year ago) link

another producer had been a member of nav katze who ALSO did a well known remix album feat a number of warp affiliates

the late great, Tuesday, 28 June 2022 17:58 (one year ago) link

mystery solved i’d say

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nWury9zukkM

the late great, Tuesday, 28 June 2022 18:00 (one year ago) link

that soft ballet remix is in my top 5 ae remixes.

dear confusion the catastrophe waitress (ledge), Tuesday, 28 June 2022 18:05 (one year ago) link

just scanning the credits of the album, some of the production team were members of soft ballet, who had recently done a remix album (soft ballet forms) with a number of warp artists

― the late great, Tuesday, June 28, 2022 12:52 PM (six minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink

okay yeah the dots are connecting a bit now, funny enough I had just recently listened to the Plaid remix they had done and wondered how the hell that came to be

always wondered if there were any Soft Ballet fans on here :)

frogbs, Tuesday, 28 June 2022 18:05 (one year ago) link

Autechre really really really need a remix anthology

octobeard, Tuesday, 28 June 2022 19:12 (one year ago) link

There was a big unofficial comp of their remixes that was doing the rounds online a few years ago - ‘Laxir’ or similar..

Ah someone’s been so good as to bung it on SoundCloud

bingo dabber acid, Tuesday, 28 June 2022 20:25 (one year ago) link

…hmm maybe ignore that link, not the entire thing - but the Laxir comp covered up to about the last 5-10 years…

bingo dabber acid, Tuesday, 28 June 2022 20:31 (one year ago) link

those nav katze comps with all those big 90s names rule. love the global communication one.

did sean talk about it on that twitch chat? kinda curious how the producer got in with all of those heavy hitters.

(⊙_⊙?) (original bgm), Tuesday, 28 June 2022 23:20 (one year ago) link

this record is a favorite as well

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WKqUQ9srNGk

frustratingly, the other records seem to be, uh, like alt rock? which makes this all even weirder

(⊙_⊙?) (original bgm), Tuesday, 28 June 2022 23:23 (one year ago) link

also frustratingly, the laxir fan comp, while absolutely filled with gems, is not everything. it actually leaves out a decent chunk of stuff, despite being long as hell. i think some completionists have compiled even longer ones…

(⊙_⊙?) (original bgm), Tuesday, 28 June 2022 23:28 (one year ago) link

Have they done any in the last 15 or so years?

frogbs, Tuesday, 28 June 2022 23:46 (one year ago) link

yeah, tho they’ve slowed it down.

stuff like russell haswell one sounds like modern autechre.

the sophie one isn’t as far out as you might think (want?), kinda like the earth remix.

(⊙_⊙?) (original bgm), Wednesday, 29 June 2022 00:28 (one year ago) link

the earth remix is masterful and amazing

they took a near-perfect song, probably decided not to fuck with it too much because it's already near perfect, then tweaked the production just enough that i can't really listen to the original now if i have a choice because theirs sounds so much better. and i don't really know if i could put into words what they did to it, besides edit a bit to add a refrain, tweak the eq, and add a weird drum sample (brushed cymbal or hi hat played backward?)

the late great, Wednesday, 29 June 2022 00:34 (one year ago) link

actually i'm not even sure if they reversed the drum sample

the late great, Wednesday, 29 June 2022 00:36 (one year ago) link


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