Too LOW: ILM Artist Poll #111 - Low - RESULTS

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I love the triptych of "Always Up" / "Always Trying To Work It Out" / "Always In The Dark" - feels like a real descent.

Tim F, Wednesday, 24 November 2021 00:50 (two years ago) link

Happy to see some of the C'mon tracks make it, after the album DNPed in the albums poll. "Nightingale" is one of those tracks that might sound generic or sleepy to some, but to me has an ineffable beauty

Very impressed by the variety of the tracks so far, what a band

Vinnie, Wednesday, 24 November 2021 00:51 (two years ago) link

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42. California
Released on The Great Destroyer (2005)
276 points, 9 voters
Music video

ufo, Wednesday, 24 November 2021 00:52 (two years ago) link

Xp the word "Always" falls on the same beats in all three songs, makes me wonder if they were all born out of the same idea

Vinnie, Wednesday, 24 November 2021 00:52 (two years ago) link

https://i.imgur.com/Tcj5iLG.png
41. The Price You Pay (It Must Be Wearing Off)
Released on HEY WHAT (2021)
277 points, 9 voters
Studio version

last one for today. i really meant to get through these a little quicker but i got distracted. probably should have settled for stopping at 46, oh well

ufo, Wednesday, 24 November 2021 00:58 (two years ago) link

one of my favorites from the new one. the way mimi's voice is consumed by and struggles with the noize section is incredible

diamonddave85​​ (diamonddave85), Wednesday, 24 November 2021 03:05 (two years ago) link

yes, one of my faves as well, and in my top 10

just staying (Karl Malone), Wednesday, 24 November 2021 03:17 (two years ago) link

I didn't vote for anything from HEY WHAT more out of principle -- too new, too many other great Low songs -- but in all fairness should have voted for The Price You Pay and one or two others. If this poll had happened next year then I probably would have.

NoTimeBeforeTime, Wednesday, 24 November 2021 05:02 (two years ago) link

“Venus” was a really lovely surprise while doing a deep dive through their Temporary Relief comp.

Western® with Bacon Flavor, Wednesday, 24 November 2021 07:03 (two years ago) link

So far I've voted for Gentle, Spanish Translation, Dancing and Blood (love that pulse sound), Especially Me, Lies, Anon (too low ! that sustained note in the near-void) and July. Would have liked to vote for Immune, it was one of the last one to go.

Nabozo, Wednesday, 24 November 2021 07:49 (two years ago) link

For me, John Prine is the centrepiece of Trust, it feels like an exercise to produce a seven minute track with the maximum amount of space between the notes (even for Low). It encapsulates what the album is about, at least for me, and that's why I voted for it even though I don't think it's necessarily the best song on the album.

I just realized that Pissing (on GD) has the same chord progression (I think) as John Prine and sees them taking that exercise to the opposite extreme -- maximize the number of notes filling up the space between simple chord changes.

NoTimeBeforeTime, Wednesday, 24 November 2021 08:55 (two years ago) link

July ended up being my #3, they restrain themselves from taking the brakes off and doing the more maximal sun-breaking-through-the-melancholy a lot more than I remembered but when they do (Like a Forest, Soon, Will the Night etc) it's devastatingly effective.

matt h, Wednesday, 24 November 2021 09:11 (two years ago) link

I was the #1 voter for Immune. Secret Name was my route into Low after I had a real 'moment' with Immune during the John Peel Festive 50 countdown in late-Dec 1999 - it was played unannounced and felt so much more insistent and coiled and warm than I'd previously perceived them to be; I was really surprised and delighted when I found out who it was.

California also in my top 5 - such an addictive track!, and really interesting that this and Just Like Christmas haven't just defaulted to top 10 placings. I think that (from a UK perspective at least), these two are kind of 'the hits'.

technopolis, Wednesday, 24 November 2021 09:21 (two years ago) link

A little shocked that Anon was so low, but then again I'm shocked that Curtain wasn't voted #1 album.

I'm starting to think I should have ranked my tracks so I'd agree with this list more.

I'm a sovereign jizz citizen (the table is the table), Wednesday, 24 November 2021 11:47 (two years ago) link

Immune and California both in my top 10 - Immune is such a simple song but it's totally perfect; California maybe not totally representative of The Great Destroyer but it definitely unlocked that album for me.

Gavin, Leeds, Wednesday, 24 November 2021 15:27 (two years ago) link

only voted for one of these tracks so far, but I like a lot of them!

Dan S, Wednesday, 24 November 2021 16:35 (two years ago) link

I've been thinking a lot about any reasons beyond sentiment and age that might influence my feelings toward Low's output, and I realize that there might be something about the earlier albums *lyrically* that could be part of it. The lyrics of the early records feel hermetic and cryptic yet strangely associative and narrativizing (I think of "Mom Says" or "Cut" as good examples). Starting around "The Great Destroyer," there was a sense (for me) that their lyric was expanding and becoming more outward-facing, and I think that the more recent records certainly put that in relief, in that they're pretty direct sociopolitical statements. And maybe that's why the more threatening and cryptic vibes of tracks like "Murderer" or "Take Your Time" or "Dancing and Blood" tend to be the tracks from the later records that feel most like older Low to me, and why I like them best of the newer stuff...there's something about suggestion that is much more interesting to me than directness.

That could just be me spitballing too much, tho.

I'm a sovereign jizz citizen (the table is the table), Wednesday, 24 November 2021 17:18 (two years ago) link

so far:
61. Nightingale - 176 points, 5 voters
61. I Remember - 176 points, 5 voters
60. Gentle - 177 points, 6 voters
58. Spanish Translation - 186 points, 7 voters, 1 #1 vote
58. Like a Forest - 186 points, 6 voters
57. Days Like These - 202 points, 7 voters
55. John Prine - 206 points, 7 voters
55. Belarus - 206 points, 6 voters
54. Soon - 216 points, 8 voters, 1 #1 vote
53. Sleep at the Bottom - 233 points, 8 voters, 1 #1 vote
52. Dancing and Blood - 237 points, 7 voters
50. More - 238 points, 10 voters, 1 #1 vote
50. Especially Me - 238 points, 9 voters, 1 #1 vote
49. Immune - 250 points, 5 voters, 1 #1 vote
48. Anon - 257 points, 7 voters
47. Just Like Christmas - 266 points, 7 voters
46. Venus - 270 points, 11 voters
45. Always Up - 271 points, 6 voters
44. Lies - 273 points, 9 voters
43. July - 274 points, 10 voters
42. California - 276 points, 9 voters
41. The Price You Pay (It Must Be Wearing Off) - 277 points, 9 voters

ufo, Wednesday, 24 November 2021 20:16 (two years ago) link

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40. Tempest
Released on Double Negative (2018)
278 points, 7 voters
Studio version
EarthQuaker Session

ufo, Wednesday, 24 November 2021 20:17 (two years ago) link

What is that thing on the cover anyway

licorice in the front, pizza in the rear (Whiney G. Weingarten), Wednesday, 24 November 2021 20:18 (two years ago) link

some sort of mask i think

diamonddave85​​ (diamonddave85), Wednesday, 24 November 2021 20:25 (two years ago) link

i really love "tempest", those waves of sidechained distortion are gorgeous

ufo, Wednesday, 24 November 2021 20:31 (two years ago) link

https://i.imgur.com/whaWxK5.png
39. Last Snowstorm of the Year
Released on Trust (2002)
279 points, 8 voters
Studio version

ufo, Wednesday, 24 November 2021 20:32 (two years ago) link

I love Tempest so much! I discovered that EarthQuaker session yesterday while following the rollout, and looked back in disbelief at how low I had it on my ballot. Really a perfect summation of what's so great about Double Negative: there are amazing, amazing songs at its core.

cwkiii, Wednesday, 24 November 2021 20:38 (two years ago) link

Last Snowstorm of the Year is also incredible. :)

cwkiii, Wednesday, 24 November 2021 20:39 (two years ago) link

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37. Whitetail
Released on Things We Lost In The Fire (2001)
285 points, 8 voters
Music video

https://i.imgur.com/GpBCMwN.png
37. Landslide
Released on Ones and Sixes (2015)
285 points, 11 voters
Studio version

ufo, Wednesday, 24 November 2021 20:46 (two years ago) link

I know you can probably say something like this about pretty much any song so far, but how does the band that wrote Landslide have 36 better songs? They really might be the best band.

cwkiii, Wednesday, 24 November 2021 20:52 (two years ago) link

I am here for the content-free filler while everyone else is busy.

cwkiii, Wednesday, 24 November 2021 20:52 (two years ago) link

Oh shit, they're playing here in February! I should snag tickets.

Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 24 November 2021 20:53 (two years ago) link

“tempest” didn’t make my ballot but it’s a really incredible track - those last 30 seconds where it sounds like the band is drowning

donna rouge, Wednesday, 24 November 2021 21:00 (two years ago) link

https://i.imgur.com/nEItCQr.png
35. Weight of Water
Released on Secret Name (1999)
291 points, 9 voters, 1 #1 vote
Music video

https://i.imgur.com/cUMZQMo.png
35. No Comprende
Released on Ones and Sixes (2015)
291 points, 11 voters
Studio version

ufo, Wednesday, 24 November 2021 21:00 (two years ago) link

“whitetail” otoh did make my ballot - amazing creeping dread

donna rouge, Wednesday, 24 November 2021 21:01 (two years ago) link

I had Weight of Water at number one and I can't quite believe that it's so far down in the rankings
Same for Whitetail which was second in my list

treefell, Wednesday, 24 November 2021 21:02 (two years ago) link

Hearing "No Comprende" the last time I saw them live was the precise moment where I recognized, whoa, I clearly didn't give "Ones and Sixes" the time and attention it deserved.

Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 24 November 2021 21:03 (two years ago) link

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34. Broadway (So Many People)
Released on The Great Destroyer (2005)
302 points, 7 voters
Studio version

ufo, Wednesday, 24 November 2021 21:15 (two years ago) link

https://i.imgur.com/PtF6Tfu.png
33. The Lamb
Released on Trust (2002)
303 points, 7 voters, 1 #1 vote
Studio version

ufo, Wednesday, 24 November 2021 21:30 (two years ago) link

I guess for the 25th time I am going to need to give Trust another try to see why you all rate it so highly amongst all their albums. Like all things Low I love every album but I still have always placed this album near the bottom of my personal rankings. And I only nominated one song in my top 30.

sctttnnnt (pgwp), Wednesday, 24 November 2021 21:33 (two years ago) link

Whitetail way too lowwwwwwwwww

licorice in the front, pizza in the rear (Whiney G. Weingarten), Wednesday, 24 November 2021 21:33 (two years ago) link

https://i.imgur.com/09hXPao.png
31. Violent Past
Released on Drums and Guns (2007)
310 points, 10 voters, 1 #1 vote
Studio version
Live 2013

https://i.imgur.com/3HepswN.png
31. Will the Night
Released on Songs For A Dead Pilot (1997) & Secret Name (1999)
310 points, 11 voters, 1 #1 vote
56 points for the Songs For A Dead Pilot version
Songs For A Dead Pilot music video
Secret Name version
Peel Session
Demo

ufo, Wednesday, 24 November 2021 21:47 (two years ago) link

Woah. Some serious TOO low placings here. Weight of Water - I thought was a lock for Top Ten. I adore Broadway but I can see how it may not be everyone's idea of Low.

I'm a Dead Pilots voter for Will The Night. In retrospect it's another of those recordings that sound a little like the early stuff. A bit more ambient maybe.

Dead Pilots was my entry level to Low and I'm a little concerned my Number one might not make it?

kraudive, Wednesday, 24 November 2021 21:59 (two years ago) link

There are number one places all over the place here. This is unprecedented, right?

kraudive, Wednesday, 24 November 2021 22:00 (two years ago) link

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30. White Horses
Released on HEY WHAT (2021)
331 points, 10 voters
Music video

ufo, Wednesday, 24 November 2021 22:01 (two years ago) link

there is not a huge amount of consensus with the #1 votes yeah

not sure exactly how unusual that is though

ufo, Wednesday, 24 November 2021 22:01 (two years ago) link

The Lamb was my #1. Every distant creak and reverberant stomp is magical to my ears.

Hideous Lump, Wednesday, 24 November 2021 22:01 (two years ago) link

I could probably have specified the Dead Pilot version to be honest because that's the one I prefer.

Long enough attention span for a Stephen Bissette blu-ray extra (aldo), Wednesday, 24 November 2021 22:03 (two years ago) link

The Lamb is astonishing.

I think the fitting irony of “Too LOW” is that the complaint really applies to anything in the roll-out that misses the top ten.

Tim F, Wednesday, 24 November 2021 22:03 (two years ago) link

love all of the last three

"will the night" is great in both versions, the dead pilot version is proto-grouper & the secret name version makes the most of strings out of any of their tracks

"white horses" is my favourite from hey what, those guitar textures are incredible

ufo, Wednesday, 24 November 2021 22:05 (two years ago) link

https://i.imgur.com/Jsn50Td.png
29. Shots & Ladders
Released on Trust (2002)
352 points, 14 voters
2 points for "Shots & Ladders 2" (from the "Canada" single & A Lifetime of Temporary Relief)
Trust version
Shots & Ladders 2

ufo, Wednesday, 24 November 2021 22:15 (two years ago) link

a lot of the ones I voted for are now showing up. The Lamb is the first track so far that is top 10 for me

Dan S, Wednesday, 24 November 2021 22:20 (two years ago) link

https://i.imgur.com/qwaodUD.png
28. Breaker
Released on Drums and Guns (2007)
370 points, 13 voters
20 points for "Breaker (Dub Plate)"
Music video
Live at L'Omnibus 2007
Retribution Gospel Choir version
Breaker (Dub Plate) (yes, it's mislabeled)

ufo, Wednesday, 24 November 2021 22:31 (two years ago) link


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