Anticipating Paul Thomas Anderson’s Licorice Pizza

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I rewatched Inherent Vice, hoping that I would like it without the burden of expectations. I liked it a little more, but was stunned several times upon realizing there was still x much time left. "45 minutes? fuck..."

The original viewing put me off so much that I avoided the Phantom Thread. I also have a mild problem with costume dramas, but I should probably have a go at it. Licorice Pizza has me hopeful.

Cow_Art, Tuesday, 23 November 2021 02:44 (two years ago) link

I also have a mild problem with costume dramas, but I should probably have a go at it. Licorice Pizza has me hopeful.

A movie set in the 1970s *is* a costume drama.

but also fuck you (unperson), Tuesday, 23 November 2021 02:46 (two years ago) link

Yeah, what's a costume drama?

So who you gonna call? The martini police (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 23 November 2021 02:48 (two years ago) link

I watched Inherent Vice again recently, and somehow the pacing and tone settled in a lot better than on the first viewing. I don't think I had inappropriate expectations when I first saw it, but maybe having a vague memory about what was about to happen allowed me to pay more attention to what was occurring in the moment.

Halfway there but for you, Tuesday, 23 November 2021 03:03 (two years ago) link

Yeah, what's a costume drama?


Bosom Manor

A Pile of Ants (Boring, Maryland), Tuesday, 23 November 2021 03:13 (two years ago) link

MOVIE REVIEWS

'Licorice Pizza' Is Paul Thomas Anderson's 1970s Power Ballad - and the Funkiest Love Story of the Year
A spiritual prequel to 'Punch Drunk Love,' the filmmaker's look back at a bygone era couldn't be more personal — or have better performers at its center

Have not read rest; ads are fucking w my computer:
https://www.rollingstone.com/movies/movie-reviews/licorice-

dow, Wednesday, 24 November 2021 19:10 (two years ago) link

Were there 1970s power ballads? "Fade Away and Radiate"?

dow, Wednesday, 24 November 2021 19:11 (two years ago) link

Kiss's "Beth" The 70s were full of them.

nickn, Wednesday, 24 November 2021 19:28 (two years ago) link

Styx "Lady" comes to mind

J. Sam, Wednesday, 24 November 2021 19:42 (two years ago) link

Dust in the Wind

Andy the Grasshopper, Wednesday, 24 November 2021 19:49 (two years ago) link

Buncha Elton: "Candle In The Wind"; "Don't Let The Sun Go Down On Me"; "Levon" etc.

PLUS THE FUCKIN' EAGLES

Precious, Grace, Hill & Beard LTD. (C. Grisso/McCain), Wednesday, 24 November 2021 19:55 (two years ago) link

BOB GODDAMN SEGER

Precious, Grace, Hill & Beard LTD. (C. Grisso/McCain), Wednesday, 24 November 2021 19:56 (two years ago) link

read a positive review of this which confirmed my lack of desire to see it

Nedlene Grendel as Basenji Holmo (map), Wednesday, 24 November 2021 19:58 (two years ago) link

LYNRYD SHITKICKIN' SKYNYRD

Precious, Grace, Hill & Beard LTD. (C. Grisso/McCain), Wednesday, 24 November 2021 19:58 (two years ago) link

Yeah but the 'power' in power ballad connotes an explosion of electric guitars and thundering drums

Otherwise it's just a ballad

Andy the Grasshopper, Wednesday, 24 November 2021 19:59 (two years ago) link

ELECTRIC MELLONFARMIN' LIGHT ORCHESTRA

Precious, Grace, Hill & Beard LTD. (C. Grisso/McCain), Wednesday, 24 November 2021 20:00 (two years ago) link

Yeah but the 'power' in power ballad connotes an explosion of electric guitars and thundering drums

Some if not all of those bands did that.

Precious, Grace, Hill & Beard LTD. (C. Grisso/McCain), Wednesday, 24 November 2021 20:02 (two years ago) link

Ballads are Ballads but part of the "Power" is the showstopping, reach for the rafters sing-along chorus.

Precious, Grace, Hill & Beard LTD. (C. Grisso/McCain), Wednesday, 24 November 2021 20:04 (two years ago) link

ANTHEMS

Precious, Grace, Hill & Beard LTD. (C. Grisso/McCain), Wednesday, 24 November 2021 20:06 (two years ago) link

Possibly substitute Queen for ELO.

Precious, Grace, Hill & Beard LTD. (C. Grisso/McCain), Wednesday, 24 November 2021 20:09 (two years ago) link

Juice Newton - “ Angel of the Morning” is a total 70’s powerballad

terminators of endearment (VegemiteGrrl), Wednesday, 24 November 2021 20:12 (two years ago) link

candle in the wind is just a ballad imo

terminators of endearment (VegemiteGrrl), Wednesday, 24 November 2021 20:13 (two years ago) link

I've always maintained that Whitesnake's Here I Go Again is just a rewrite of Angel of the Morning

Andy the Grasshopper, Wednesday, 24 November 2021 20:18 (two years ago) link

Whoa Juice has kind of a crazy-eyed Kate Bush thing going here... pretty awesome

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HTzGMEfbnAw

Andy the Grasshopper, Wednesday, 24 November 2021 20:22 (two years ago) link

Nazareth: "Love Hurts" so good (their covers of "Hollis Brown" proto-folk-metal ritualizm, the Joni cover, though blanking on title, more ov a power folkie-ballad)(they should have done "Candle In The Wind," then it would have been proper power ballad) But I was thinking more "tasteful romantic move by 80s metal etc."

dow, Wednesday, 24 November 2021 21:35 (two years ago) link

Joni cover = "This Flight Tonight"

Precious, Grace, Hill & Beard LTD. (C. Grisso/McCain), Wednesday, 24 November 2021 22:35 (two years ago) link

Ramones had a few!

clemenza, Wednesday, 24 November 2021 23:06 (two years ago) link

For an acoustic guy, Cat Stevens had a ton of these.

... (Eazy), Thursday, 25 November 2021 01:02 (two years ago) link

Licorice Pizza Love Jams

Precious, Grace, Hill & Beard LTD. (C. Grisso/McCain), Thursday, 25 November 2021 01:17 (two years ago) link

I don't even own a Film Twitter, but sorta surprised the grievance Chaw had that's getting run with is the age difference thing and not the racial thing, but OTOH I guess the former is easier to address without having yet seen the movie.

Precious, Grace, Hill & Beard LTD. (C. Grisso/McCain), Thursday, 25 November 2021 01:22 (two years ago) link

Between the trailers for THE TENDER BAR and LICORICE PIZZA this weekend, I was deeply irritated with lovingly recreated 70s scuzz. So of course AFI Silver just announced a 70mm screening of LP for this Saturday evening. (It previously was scheduled to open there Christmas Day; no word on analog or digital format.) Decisions, decisions.

Infanta Terrible (j.lu), Monday, 6 December 2021 18:36 (two years ago) link

goddamn i hated this so much. what a bullshit white dude nostalgia trip. and im a jew that grew up in the valley! it should have hit different. oh well.

kurt schwitterz, Monday, 6 December 2021 18:44 (two years ago) link

These types of films aren't always (or even usually) aimed at people who shared in their era, experience, geography, etc.

we need outrage! we need dicks!! (the table is the table), Tuesday, 7 December 2021 21:12 (two years ago) link

As in, I can totally see hating it, especially if your experience has some parallels in the movie itself.

I also haven't seen it, though. I'm speaking more "generally."

we need outrage! we need dicks!! (the table is the table), Tuesday, 7 December 2021 21:13 (two years ago) link

goddamn i hated this so much. what a bullshit white dude nostalgia trip. and im a jew that grew up in the valley! it should have hit different. oh well.

― kurt schwitterz, Monday, December 6, 2021 6:44 PM (yesterday) bookmarkflaglink

this is what it looked like to me, i'm going to avoid it.

some review was talking about it portraying scrappy small business owners and that's when i decided no thanks, i'd rather watch train cab footage at home.

Nedlene Grendel as Basenji Holmo (map), Tuesday, 7 December 2021 21:46 (two years ago) link

Not scheduled for either of the independents/rep houses in my area, so it must be getting a Cineplex opening.

clemenza, Tuesday, 7 December 2021 23:13 (two years ago) link

So, wait, it's not a good movie about people working?

I love those!

So who you gonna call? The martini police (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 7 December 2021 23:15 (two years ago) link

Just read a post on Criterionforum about an advance screening a few days ago at an Austin Alamo Drafthouse that had a surprise appearance from Alana Haim, who-in lieu of doing an after-screening Q&A-treated the audience to a secret Haim show at a neighboring club.

Precious, Grace, Hill & Beard LTD. (C. Grisso/McCain), Tuesday, 7 December 2021 23:38 (two years ago) link

xxp it's distributed by Universal here in Canada, so of course it's Cineplex

but also if you wanna come to Toronto, the Lightbox is getting a 70mm run (there's an advance screening this Sat that sold most of its tix to TIFF members, fucking TIFF)

Murgatroid, Wednesday, 8 December 2021 00:30 (two years ago) link

I've made the trek into Toronto two or three times (two-and-a-half hours), but if it's opening here, I'd have to be promised dinner with the cast or something.

clemenza, Wednesday, 8 December 2021 02:13 (two years ago) link

Bro if this movie was about people just regular ass working in the valley I'd be all about it.

kurt schwitterz, Wednesday, 8 December 2021 02:14 (two years ago) link

Good interview w Anderson on The New Yorker Radio Hour---he knows how to sell it of course, but mainly about backstory of plot and what it's like to direct Hoffman and Haim, both of whom he's known for quite a while---Hoffman's character seems based or fusion of his own persona and that of 15-year-old Anderson, pestering and then (as he remembers it) bonding with a couple of his sister's friends (18, 19, had cars omg, though of course Haim is still older)https://podcasts.google.com/feed/aHR0cDovL2ZlZWRzLndueWMub3JnL25ld3lvcmtlcnJhZGlvaG91cg/episode/ZTg4MDMyOWEtY2M5ZC00ZDRkLThhMz

dow, Monday, 13 December 2021 00:41 (two years ago) link

Oops--not on there yet, sorry.

dow, Monday, 13 December 2021 00:42 (two years ago) link

It's playing now (while I'm signed in to Google, haven't tried otherwise)

dow, Monday, 13 December 2021 01:42 (two years ago) link

Best movie of the year, ridiculously good

licorice in the front, pizza in the rear (Whiney G. Weingarten), Wednesday, 22 December 2021 16:36 (two years ago) link

Dang, and I was looking forward to this one too.

Max Hamburgers (Eric H.), Wednesday, 22 December 2021 16:39 (two years ago) link

Lol

hopefully this review helped someone (Neanderthal), Wednesday, 22 December 2021 17:02 (two years ago) link

I don't know what to think, a promising sign. The time line confused me: Gary's a high schooler who in the course of the film opens a water bed store and pinball joint? Alana Haim's a natural, though, and those tracking shots adore her. Most tolerable Bradley Cooper work in a long time -- I hope Babs was thrilled.

So who you gonna call? The martini police (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Saturday, 25 December 2021 21:03 (two years ago) link

I can tell you I don't care much for the Valentine character and Hoffman performance, especially PTA's insistence that we adore him. The ending irritated the fuck outta me.

So maybe I didn't like the film after all.

So who you gonna call? The martini police (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Saturday, 25 December 2021 21:15 (two years ago) link


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