xp--has your BF heard 'Double Negative,' 'Drums & Guns,' 'Bombscare,' 'Trust'? Mamas and the Papas wow (though I could see Low doing a great 'California Dreaming" cover)
― Soundslike, Tuesday, 23 November 2021 00:05 (twenty-five seconds ago) bookmarkflaglink
In fairness I don't tend to play Double Negative or Drums & Guns or Hey What in front of him - it seems like asking for trouble.
― Tim F, Tuesday, 23 November 2021 00:12 (two years ago) link
https://i.imgur.com/9rMhKsz.png3. TrustReleased in 2002386 points, 27 voters, 4 #1 votes
― ufo, Tuesday, 23 November 2021 00:12 (two years ago) link
i know there's quite a few huge trust fans here but it was still a little surprising to see it this high. it was the biggest beneficiary of the last two days of ballots though, it really shot up.
for most of the voting period the order of #3 - #7 was somewhere around the following:I Could Live In HopeThe Curtain Hits the CastSecret NameTrustHEY WHAT
which felt more expected?
― ufo, Tuesday, 23 November 2021 00:14 (two years ago) link
to me Trust at #3 seems about right! (was #4 for me, and it was hard to decide)
― just staying (Karl Malone), Tuesday, 23 November 2021 00:15 (two years ago) link
it's good but not quite up with their best. the bookends are great but i think "the great destroyer" generally did the lighter parts of the album better & i don't find the darkest parts ("the lamb", "john prine" etc.) super compelling. but i can understand how that is exactly what some want out of low
― ufo, Tuesday, 23 November 2021 00:18 (two years ago) link
what do you think about amazing grace?
― just staying (Karl Malone), Tuesday, 23 November 2021 00:24 (two years ago) link
i don't want that out of low every time - to me, 'the lamb' and 'amazing grace' in particular - but i they can do that kind of thing like no one else
"the bookends are great"
― ufo, Tuesday, 23 November 2021 00:25 (two years ago) link
comeon c'mon!
― diamonddave85 (diamonddave85), Tuesday, 23 November 2021 00:27 (two years ago) link
drums & guns was my #2-- it was my LOW gateway drug so it really holds a special place in my heart. TOO LOW
― diamonddave85 (diamonddave85), Tuesday, 23 November 2021 00:28 (two years ago) link
in silence > murderer > violent past is probably the best run on an album they've done
https://i.imgur.com/PQOHE4D.png2. Things We Lost in the FireReleased in 2001390 points, 29 voters, 10 #1 votes
https://i.imgur.com/R6Zs01h.png1. Double NegativeReleased in 2018402 points, 28 voters, 7 #1 votes
― ufo, Tuesday, 23 November 2021 00:29 (two years ago) link
appropriate #1. what a fucking album
― diamonddave85 (diamonddave85), Tuesday, 23 November 2021 00:30 (two years ago) link
wow! had DN as 2 and curtain as 1 but what a result
― donna rouge, Tuesday, 23 November 2021 00:33 (two years ago) link
I'm just going to say that I'm a little surprised and disappointed tbh.
― I'm a sovereign jizz citizen (the table is the table), Tuesday, 23 November 2021 00:34 (two years ago) link
Who else is correct and voted "Curtain" at #1?
these were always the top 2 (though trust got very close in the end) & i was surprised that they were such clear favourites - over half of all ballots voted for one of them as #1
― ufo, Tuesday, 23 November 2021 00:35 (two years ago) link
A bit surprised Double Negative is #1 but it was my #1. It's probably in my top 25 albums of all time by this point. Truly remarkable album
Things We Lost in the Fire though... the album leaves me pretty cold and I don't get why it has such a strong rep. I'm happy to take "Laser Beam" and leave the rest
― Vinnie, Tuesday, 23 November 2021 00:35 (two years ago) link
things we lost in the fire feels like the culmination of latter day LOW while double negative feels like a culmination of mid-period LOW. both are incredible albums and i would've been fine with either one taking #1
― diamonddave85 (diamonddave85), Tuesday, 23 November 2021 00:37 (two years ago) link
A little surprised that Long Division didn't make it at all.
― I'm a sovereign jizz citizen (the table is the table), Tuesday, 23 November 2021 00:42 (two years ago) link
Has one of my favorite "creepy" Low songs on it— "Turn." Also "Throw Out the Line" and "Stay".
― I'm a sovereign jizz citizen (the table is the table), Tuesday, 23 November 2021 00:43 (two years ago) link
full results:
1. Double Negative - 402 points, 28 voters, 7 #1 votes2. Things We Lost in the Fire - 390 points, 29 voters, 10 #1 votes3. Trust - 386 points, 27 voters, 4 #1 votes4. The Curtain Hits the Cast - 348 points, 29 voters, 4 #1 votes5. I Could Live In Hope - 300 points, 25 voters, 2 #1 votes6. HEY WHAT - 298 points, 27 voters7. Secret Name - 278 points, 25 voters, 1 #1 vote8. Drums and Guns - 196 points, 20 voters, 2 #1 votes9. The Great Destroyer - 178 points, 19 voters10. Ones and Sixes - 176 points, 18 voters, 2 #1 votes11. Long Division - 128 points, 17 voters12. C'mon - 124 points, 15 voters13. Christmas - 62 points, 8 voters14. Bombscare - 54 points, 6 voters15. Songs for a Dead Pilot - 46 points, 5 voters16. The Invisible Way - 26 points, 4 voters17. Murderer - 22 points, 2 voters18. A Lifetime of Temporary Relief - 20 points, 2 voters19. The Exit Papers - 14 points, 2 voters19. One More Reason To Forget - 14 points, 1 voters21. In the Fishtank 7 - 10 points, 2 voters21. owL Remix - 10 points, 1 voters23. Live at Eindhoven - 2 points, 1 voters
― ufo, Tuesday, 23 November 2021 00:45 (two years ago) link
Oh no
― kraudive, Tuesday, 23 November 2021 00:45 (two years ago) link
I'm going to be controversial and say that I like them, but I actually am genuinely befuddled by the extreme love for Double Negative...and tbh, the new one.
― I'm a sovereign jizz citizen (the table is the table), Tuesday, 23 November 2021 00:48 (two years ago) link
The general line on Trust is that it is inconsistent but I find it very consistent throughout, and it's Things We Lost... that feels patchy but with very high highs for me.
― Tim F, Tuesday, 23 November 2021 00:52 (two years ago) link
going to go through covers fairly quickly
― ufo, Tuesday, 23 November 2021 00:52 (two years ago) link
10. Lord, Can You Hear Me?Originally performed by Spacemen 3, written by PierceReleased on the A Tribute To Spacemen 3 compilation & A Lifetime of Temporary Relief90 points, 9 votersStudio version
― I'm a sovereign jizz citizen (the table is the table), Tuesday, 23 November 2021 00:48 (four minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink
I'm curious to hear you unpack this a bit - you talked in the other thread about C'Mon and The Invisible Way but not these ones.
― Tim F, Tuesday, 23 November 2021 00:53 (two years ago) link
re: Double Negative, I can't think of another band that has made that kind of leap 25 years into their career
― Dan S, Tuesday, 23 November 2021 00:54 (two years ago) link
Things We Lost in the Fire though... the album leaves me pretty cold and I don't get why it has such a strong rep...
― Vinnie, Monday, November 22, 2021
I listened a few times through while voting, and in retrospect it seems a little distant and manicured to me. I don't remember thinking that at the time. I know that could be a criticism of Secret Name, too
― Dan S, Tuesday, 23 November 2021 00:55 (two years ago) link
i can understand longtime fans being somewhat alienated by double negative but at this point it's genuinely up there with like kid a, loveless etc. as far as pop-experimental rock albums go & it has some of their very best tunes even ignoring the production.
― ufo, Tuesday, 23 November 2021 00:55 (two years ago) link
Yeah I said this previously but Double Negative has surprisingly indelible melodies.
― Tim F, Tuesday, 23 November 2021 00:57 (two years ago) link
Very few points separating Trust, Things We Lost, and DN. I had Things We Lost as #1. It was my gateway disc.
― that's not my post, Tuesday, 23 November 2021 00:58 (two years ago) link
voted for more tracks from Trust and The Great Destroyer than from any of their other albums. they were my #2 and #3
― Dan S, Tuesday, 23 November 2021 00:59 (two years ago) link
8. StayOriginally performed by Rihanna, written by Ekko/Parker/LoelvReleased as a single in 201392 points, 8 votersStudio version
8. Last Night I Dreamt That Somebody Loved MeOriginally performed by The Smiths, written by Marr/MorrisseyReleased as as single in 2001 & on A Lifetime of Temporary Relief92 points, 7 voters, 1 #1 voteStudio version
― ufo, Tuesday, 23 November 2021 01:01 (two years ago) link
Ended up being easier to rank than I thought - for me Fire, Trust, Double Negative, HW just absolutely nail an aesthetic start-to-finish with no dead weight, feel exceptionally replayable. Drums and Guns material is incredibly strong, but with the obvious production issue. Destroyer, Cast, Hope, Secret Name have really high highs but aren't quite top-to-bottom packed with favourites. The 2010 records are still strong but combined with songs that I really struggle to get on with - as much as I wish that weren't the case.
― matt h, Tuesday, 23 November 2021 01:03 (two years ago) link
I think the comparison to Kid A or Loveless is apt! The production is striking but underneath that are some very strong songs
xp to Dan: Secret Name is a bit stronger for me than Things We Lost so I kinda get why people like that one, but nothing from either album made my ballot. I guess the connection there is Albini but I've liked other albums he's produced
― Vinnie, Tuesday, 23 November 2021 01:05 (two years ago) link
yeah, that Albini produced those surprised me. I really liked Secret Name though, it was maybe too twee but it felt very intimate to me
― Dan S, Tuesday, 23 November 2021 01:08 (two years ago) link
7. Long Long LongOriginally performed by The Beatles, written by HarrisonReleased on the "Joan of Arc" single & A Lifetime of Temporary Relief96 points, 8 votersStudio version
― ufo, Tuesday, 23 November 2021 01:09 (two years ago) link
Always thought this live version with strings https://v3.fastupload.co/file/9766 of the Last Night cover beat out the box set recording which bumped it up a few places.
― matt h, Tuesday, 23 November 2021 01:17 (two years ago) link
6. Blue-Eyed DevilOriginally performed & written by Soul CoughingReleased on the Teleconned Volume 1: We Want The Airwaves v/a compilation & A Lifetime of Temporary Relief108 points, 8 voters, 2 #1 votesStudio version
― ufo, Tuesday, 23 November 2021 01:19 (two years ago) link
ooh what's the context of that live version, are there other tracks from the same performance with strings out there
― ufo, Tuesday, 23 November 2021 01:22 (two years ago) link
HEY WHAT too Low! Long Division way too low. Oof.
― octobeard, Tuesday, 23 November 2021 01:30 (two years ago) link
5. Little Drummer BoyAs made famous by Harry Simeone Chorale, written by Simeone/Davis/OnoratiReleased on Christmas112 points, 8 voters, 1 #1 voteStudio version
― ufo, Tuesday, 23 November 2021 01:35 (two years ago) link
Glad to see other voters put Little Drummer Boy on their list of covers. Christmas drone
― that's not my post, Tuesday, 23 November 2021 01:35 (two years ago) link
that was my favorite Christmas song as a little kid. I've heard it to death, but their version is very nice
― Dan S, Tuesday, 23 November 2021 01:38 (two years ago) link
4. I Started a JokeOriginally performed by The Bee Gees, written by Gibb/Gibb/GibbReleased on the Jabberjaw...Pure Sweet Hell v/a compilation & A Lifetime of Temporary Relief140 points, 9 voters, 2 #1 votesStudio version
― ufo, Tuesday, 23 November 2021 01:46 (two years ago) link
Yay!
― licorice in the front, pizza in the rear (Whiney G. Weingarten), Tuesday, 23 November 2021 01:50 (two years ago) link
I don’t agree with all these crazy results but I love seeing em
I'm curious to hear you unpack this a bit - you talked in the other thread about C'Mon and The Invisible Way but not these ones.― Tim F, Monday, November 22, 2021 4:53 PM (forty-seven minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink
― Tim F, Monday, November 22, 2021 4:53 PM (forty-seven minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink
I think the issue for me is that they're both great albums, but at a certain point, DN has more in common with the kinetic aural density of like a Tim Hecker record than with the side of Low that I love best, which is sparse and expansive. Curtain is my #1 because it feels like an endless plain at dusk.
I love the earlier more experimental ambient Low tracks a lot, and sort of wish that these newer records went more in that direction-- instead, that sort of sonic palette seems to be applied to the more 'song-y' side of the band.
― I'm a sovereign jizz citizen (the table is the table), Tuesday, 23 November 2021 01:58 (two years ago) link