Well thats the last straw. I’m cancelling my Infowars subscription.
― Chappies banging dustbin lids together (President Keyes), Monday, 22 November 2021 22:43 (two years ago) link
They should have reunited with the worm-brain reporter.
― jmm, Monday, 22 November 2021 23:01 (two years ago) link
speaking of worm-brain reporters
Yes, I'm aware of what he's done. Sometimes journalists interview bad people, especially when they play a significant role in society or have an influential platform. That's why real journalists interviewed Osama bin Laden after 9/11, which some think is worse than Alex Jones.— Glenn Greenwald (@ggreenwald) November 22, 2021
― papal hotwife (milo z), Tuesday, 23 November 2021 00:54 (two years ago) link
I really enjoyed TrueAnon being stalked by children in VR chat.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qZhWmr76YB0
― JoeStork, Tuesday, 23 November 2021 18:25 (two years ago) link
boy that 35 minutes of ironic Brandon bits was something
― made entirely of styrofoam (GOTT PUNCH II HAWKWINDZ), Wednesday, 15 December 2021 02:52 (two years ago) link
finding out the Red Scare girls got Covid has triggered the worst parts of my (in)humanity, lmaoooooo
― Murgatroid, Sunday, 9 January 2022 22:28 (two years ago) link
It is me, the unspeakable loser
Fwiw I was diagnosed with something called Adult Onset Still’s Disease. If you google Still’s + Covid-19 you can find studies reporting cases triggered by the vaccine as well as the virus. Either way how much of an unspeakable loser do you have to be to hornily gloat over this? https://t.co/7jfM3sIC2a— Anna Khachiyan (@annakhachiyan) January 9, 2022
― Murgatroid, Sunday, 9 January 2022 22:30 (two years ago) link
They exist in such a weird space. Making bank on Patreon but they have essentially no reach beyond that aside from people delighting when they're miserable or owned.
― papal hotwife (milo z), Sunday, 9 January 2022 22:34 (two years ago) link
really liked the last CTH w the guy from E1 who was a nurse throughout the pandemic and just recently quit.
― concentrating on Rationality (the book) (will), Sunday, 9 January 2022 23:39 (two years ago) link
RPG eps actually listenable without Virgil
― papal hotwife (milo z), Sunday, 9 January 2022 23:40 (two years ago) link
also someone should do a lefty pod thraed that’s not so umm sullied by the this title. last two non-Patreon Know Your Enemy eps have been really good imo
― concentrating on Rationality (the book) (will), Sunday, 9 January 2022 23:43 (two years ago) link
There’s also just the “podcasts” thread too if need be
― Glower, Disruption & Pies (kingfish), Monday, 10 January 2022 19:04 (two years ago) link
also a Political/History podcasts thread
― Chappies banging dustbin lids together (President Keyes), Monday, 10 January 2022 19:24 (two years ago) link
Feel like the decision to put the microphone inside felix’s mouth when they recorded the new episode was a mistake
― officer sonny bonds, lytton pd (mayor jingleberries), Wednesday, 19 January 2022 19:24 (two years ago) link
You don’t find a close-miced vape soothing?
― papal hotwife (milo z), Wednesday, 19 January 2022 19:28 (two years ago) link
What’s a good, horridly punning name for a leftpod thread?
― Glower, Disruption & Pies (kingfish), Tuesday, 25 January 2022 05:06 (two years ago) link
Commpodity Fetishism
― Chappies banging dustbin lids together (President Keyes), Tuesday, 25 January 2022 15:08 (two years ago) link
Das haFX
― west elm girls (Whiney G. Weingarten), Tuesday, 25 January 2022 15:25 (two years ago) link
know your comrades
― maf you one two (maffew12), Tuesday, 25 January 2022 15:32 (two years ago) link
Stuff You Should Overthrow
― Chappies banging dustbin lids together (President Keyes), Tuesday, 25 January 2022 16:29 (two years ago) link
My Dad Wrote a Manifesto
― Chappies banging dustbin lids together (President Keyes), Tuesday, 25 January 2022 16:30 (two years ago) link
Any more?
― Glower, Disruption & Pies (kingfish), Tuesday, 1 February 2022 01:21 (two years ago) link
Dogshit take on the Rogan/Spotify thing on Chapo, I hear?
― Daniel_Rf, Tuesday, 1 February 2022 15:20 (two years ago) link
Chapo guys have never been so gung ho about deplatforming, for understandable reasons I think
― Chappies banging dustbin lids together (President Keyes), Tuesday, 1 February 2022 15:30 (two years ago) link
Felix basically arguing that Rogan spreading anti-vaxx propaganda is comparable to Hip-Hop records he listens to glorifying criminality is very weak tho, feels like accepting PMRC-level reasoning but from the other side.
― Daniel_Rf, Tuesday, 1 February 2022 16:03 (two years ago) link
Felix didn’t say that, though. They locate the anti-Rogan sentiment as being about ‘Rogan is a bad guy’ rather than combating the spread of anti-vax talking points (because taking Rogan off Spotify wouldn’t do anything about that).
― papal hotwife (milo z), Tuesday, 1 February 2022 18:45 (two years ago) link
Wouldn't it tho?
― recovering internet addict/shitposter (viborg), Tuesday, 1 February 2022 19:16 (two years ago) link
hard to say what deplatforming rogan would definitely do but i'm willing to try and see what happens
― STOCK FIST-PUMPER BRAD (BradNelson), Tuesday, 1 February 2022 19:18 (two years ago) link
I'd say it's less about the platforming and more about the promotion. Neil Young is almost contributing at this point, no such thing as bad publicity. Half of the discussion on 'serious' English-speaking internet is about this crapola rn.
― recovering internet addict/shitposter (viborg), Tuesday, 1 February 2022 19:29 (two years ago) link
How about Finnish Internet?
― Johnny Mathis der Maler (Boring, Maryland), Tuesday, 1 February 2022 19:36 (two years ago) link
No, it wouldn’t do anything - it’s not ‘deplatforming’ him. Spotify limits his reach if anything, lose his deal and he puts up an RSS feed accessible by every podcast app instead of one and he’d be back on YouTube. Fucking with Rogan might be personally satisfying but it’s not combating anti-vax propaganda.
― papal hotwife (milo z), Tuesday, 1 February 2022 19:39 (two years ago) link
xpthey're discussing if Joe Rogan should be allowed to masturbate in front of a baby
― rob, Tuesday, 1 February 2022 19:48 (two years ago) link
None of that on yer finish internet
― recovering internet addict/shitposter (viborg), Tuesday, 1 February 2022 19:50 (two years ago) link
https://www.theverge.com/22632213/joe-rogan-experience-spotify-exclusive-audience-reachhow do you deplatform someone who had a greater reach before they were on a platform?hopefully he just loses a lot of fans with the fuss i dunno.
― maf you one two (maffew12), Tuesday, 1 February 2022 21:09 (two years ago) link
oh yeah i guess you do have a point there, idk
― STOCK FIST-PUMPER BRAD (BradNelson), Tuesday, 1 February 2022 21:23 (two years ago) link
could say that YouTube shouldn't allow his stuff back but that would disqualify a large chunk of YouTube...... hmm....... let's do it
― maf you one two (maffew12), Tuesday, 1 February 2022 22:08 (two years ago) link
Rogan's worst effects were because of the Youtube algorithm - the Rogan fitness grifter to Ben Shapiro to open fascist channel pipeline.
― papal hotwife (milo z), Tuesday, 1 February 2022 22:24 (two years ago) link
Spotify limiting his reach? Is there numbers to demonstrate that?
― Van Horn Street, Wednesday, 2 February 2022 00:36 (two years ago) link
Lots of data in that link from The Verge above.
― deep luminous trombone (Eazy), Wednesday, 2 February 2022 00:38 (two years ago) link
Didn't realize he was exclusive to Spotify now (which explains a lot).
I don't think taking stances in a culture war is a bad thing per se, maybe Neil Young's actions won't do anything to combat anti-vaxx sentiments. Sometimes you just don't feel like sharing a platform with a Joe Rogan and that's okay too I guess. Or maybe he thought it was the right thing to do to combat anti-vaxx sentiment and if it isn't the best way that's okay too!
― Van Horn Street, Wednesday, 2 February 2022 00:50 (two years ago) link
No one on the episode criticized Young (or defended Rogan), Felix just pointed out that there a lot of bad people on Spotify and his own complicity in patronizing them there (King Von).
― papal hotwife (milo z), Wednesday, 2 February 2022 01:35 (two years ago) link
I love my boys but whenever Felix starts talking about rap music, get out of the way
― west elm girls (Whiney G. Weingarten), Wednesday, 2 February 2022 06:09 (two years ago) link
That's assuming the audience he comes back to is the same size as the audience he left, which I don't think has to follow - he's receiving the most scrutiny he ever has outside of left spaces. That might not do much but I don't think you can take it as a given either way.
Regardless of how that pans out, though, Rogan chose to go with Spotify and forsake a larger audience because it's of greater benefit to him financially. So what this is doing as well is telling Rogan, and others in the same sphere/grift, that having anti-vaxx people on is a bad business decision. That will influence spread more than listening figures.
At the very least, it guarantees that the next time Rogan has some anti-vaxx person on, his listeners will be reminded "oh yeah wasn't there some stink about that? is this the guy I should be listening to on this issue?". And yeah sure plenty will go "hell yeah the mainstreem media tried to censor the truth!", but as you've said Rogan is a gateway drug, so plenty will take a step back, too.
As for all this "Rogan is a bad person" bullshit...a group of scientists didn't call on Spotify to stop working with Rogan because he's a bad person. Do some ppl have more emotional and less thought through reasons to support the idea? Sure. I can point you to some ppl with pretty dumb reasons for having voted Corbyn too, who gives a fuck? It's what happens in any movement. It's a clearly articulated intiative with concrete demands.
― Daniel_Rf, Wednesday, 2 February 2022 10:35 (two years ago) link
Very much otm. Also yeah he may have gotten more promotion through YouTube when he was mainly just pimping the leading lights of the dark enlightenment etc but Spotify not actively promoting his current crop of murderous lies would no doubt put a dent in his audience.
― recovering internet addict/shitposter (viborg), Wednesday, 2 February 2022 17:43 (two years ago) link
His audience would be larger if the lib'rul elites persecuted him off of Spotify, making him even more of a cause celebre for reactionaries - this is already happening to some extent but actual "cancellation" would kick it into overdrive when he was back on platforms that don't limit his reach.
At the very least, it guarantees that the next time Rogan has some anti-vaxx person on, his listeners will be reminded "oh yeah wasn't there some stink about that? is this the guy I should be listening to on this issue?".
Whaaaa? No it won't, his listeners will be more excited to hear these rule-breakers and truth-tellers because the people they don't like told them it was bad to listen to them.
As for all this "Rogan is a bad person" bullshit...a group of scientists didn't call on Spotify to stop working with Rogan because he's a bad person.
That is, however, the driving force - because kicking Rogan off Spotify doesn't serve any purpose in combating anti-vax propaganda. You cannot make him shut up - there's no actual way to do that. It's driven by personal satisfaction (with being right) and personal distaste (for Rogan and those who are wrong). Which is fine, I cancelled my Spotify account because I don't want to give them money, but it was not in any way a meaningful act aside from how I feel about where my money goes.
― papal hotwife (milo z), Wednesday, 2 February 2022 18:07 (two years ago) link
That's super reductive. I'd acknowledged in my last post that some listeners would indeed react in the way you describe, but not every Rogan listener is a fully paid up True Believer, his appeal is far wider than that.
Assuming that just because you think it wouldn't work everyone else also secretly believes the same thing and is therefore acting because they think Rogan's a bad person...that's some real making up a guy to get mad at shit.
― Daniel_Rf, Wednesday, 2 February 2022 18:19 (two years ago) link
His audience would be larger if the lib'rul elites persecuted him off of Spotify, making him even more of a cause celebre for reactionaries
It's true! Look how well it worked out for Milo Yiannopolous! Why, he's unavoidable!
― but also fuck you (unperson), Wednesday, 2 February 2022 18:44 (two years ago) link
think i was right to find this argument exhausting but i lost the moment i engaged with it
― STOCK FIST-PUMPER BRAD (BradNelson), Wednesday, 2 February 2022 18:48 (two years ago) link
The whole reactionary echo chamber 2.0 is basically maxxed out at this point. Sure there are few unaffiliated dimwits they can scrape off the bottom of the info-highway ecosphere but I don’t think there’s much genuine growth left in the ‘owning the libs’ market. Unless they find some new even more scary boogeyman to hunt for.
― recovering internet addict/shitposter (viborg), Wednesday, 2 February 2022 18:52 (two years ago) link
Although as a newbie to world of Chapo there seem to be a few horseshoe theory tones in the mix that give me some pause.
― recovering internet addict/shitposter (viborg), Wednesday, 2 February 2022 18:53 (two years ago) link